The most valuable/desirable Stock and Super Stockers
 

Since just about everyone is done for the year and some of you are snowed in. Here is something for you to think about. I'd like some input for a future National Dragster feature.

What are some of the most valuable cars currently racing?

By that, I don't mean who has spent the most money. I'd like some input using the following criteria:

Rarity

Collectability

Provenance (history and race wins, etc.)

Desirability

Originality (no clones or re-bodies)

I'd also want to know if the car is still being raced and how often. Some examples that stand out off the top of my head would be Ben Wenzel's '67 Z-28, Dallas Kelly's Thunderbolt, and (I believe) Richie Pauley's '68 Cobra Jet. What else ya got?

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Ben Wenzel's Camaro

Charlie Bohannon's Vette

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Div 1 racer Dave LeClaire's SS/EA 1967 Plymouth Belvedere II. Original RO23 Hemi Race car. He is the second owner. Bought it in 1968, and it has a 193 miles on it.

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Any original aluminum lightweight 63/64 Dodge/Plymouth Maxi or 64 Hemi..Harry Holton's original 65 SS Belvedere.

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An original 1970 442 Convertible Y-74 Indy 500 Pace Car.One of 268 cars made.Has won 3 NHRA National events,and has been painted purple since 1987.Might be restored back to the original white color some day.Still races in Stock Eliminator.

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Bob Marshall. Hemi

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Dave Walther's 69 Camaro. Originally a 302 Z-28

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STEVE KOPPIEN'S real deal COPO that he still has, with the correct 427 in the shop. Now thats one high dollar nice & fast race car.

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I think Jim Pancake has an original 1968 Hemi Cuda. I believe he parked it to race a 1968 Dart.

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I would go with Marshall's dodge, Pancakes Cuda (Jerry Daileys old car) and Dan Fletcher's SS Camaro, it also has a ton of history. But once again we have a post that will turn into a popularity contest so have it.

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I would say that Bob Swan's real 1967 Shelby GT500 is on the list. Bought in 1977 and every stock piece stored for future reassembly.

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Chuck Comella's 1968 LO23 Dart purchased new by me in 68 now driven by my son Stephen , Ran Indy Nationals 1971, 6 national and 6 division races in 2013 just to name a few races.

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I 'm sure its not the most valuable out there, but I always thought Craig Michaels 67 Plymouth Hemi Belvedere was pretty cool. . His Dad bought it new, and his Mom was taken to the hospital to have Craig in it. It still has the original paint. And is raced frequently in Division 3.

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Ben and Dave Wentzel's 1967 original Z28 that won Indy in 1967. It's probably a $500,000 car.

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Larry and Shirley Jewell's Corvette. 1966 427/425, Larry took delivery in Dec. 65 and has owned it ever since. They went on their honeymoon in it!

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For us Chevy guys I would say Wenzel's
And Koppien's camaro's are at the top
Of the list, my list anyway!!!

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Don't know his last name,Jack has 70 hemi cuda,blue,bench seat auto on column,is stocker have seen @ Ohio Valley,Bowling Green,Jack bought when he returned from Nam. had 550 mi. was offered 1million back few years ago when Barrett Jackson was going big, He said he had it this long he would just keep it. That has to be high on valuable list.

Desirable list for me would have be 63-67 vette as SS/mod or ?/SM comp car preferably black,less than 300''cranked over 10K and of course 5 speed.
I know it's out of date but need 40 lbs. flywwheeel to sounnnd riiiggghhhhtttttt.LOL

Mike Taylor 3601

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Koppien Koppien and Koppien in my book.

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Billy, you know I'm partial to this one... Dad's had the car longer than I've been alive.

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Bobby Warren's nationals winning Nova resides in my hometown, albeit now a back-halfed bracket car. I want to buy it and restore it, just gotta wait for the guy to want to sell, hell I'd be happy to take it as a shell and start from there, even if it took a decade to restore!

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Paul Mayo's Olds wagon owned by Skip Gamlin.

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Kevin, it would also be neat in the story for you to compare each decade on it's own merit.

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Even though Im a MOPAR guy and have only driven MOPAR's i must say that....

KEVIN HELM'S 3 TIME BACK TO BACK TO BACK WORLD CHAMPION CAMARO!! Did I mention that its the only 3 time back to back to back Camaro in the world. Not sure how this car wasnt mentioned.

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What about John Calvert's '68 Cobrajet?

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Also I would like to own the 2009 drag pak that my father currently drives. The 2011 U.S. Nationsls winner!!

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My Stocker may not be the most valuable or well known class car, but in the rarity category it may be the number 1 qualifier. It was originally a 1971 Pontiac T-37, 2 door post, 455 HO car. There were only 11 of these built in the U.S. of which 4 were automatics and 7 stick shifts. Pontiac didn't publish how many of the 7 stick cars were 4-speeds and how many were 3-speeds. Mine was a 3-speed. I contacted an expert on T-37's and he said even though we will never know for sure he said he felt comfortable saying it could be a 1 of 3 and a possible 1 of 1. For sure it's a 1 of 7. I purchased the car from Bob Howe and it was owned at one time by Rock Running. I would like to talk to Mr. Running to get some history on it as I believe he originally built it. The 455 HO engine came with round port heads, an aluminum intake, and a very rare 828 cfm single booster Quadrajet carburetor. If I can get motivated, hopefully the car will be back on the track in 2014. And no, it won't be a stick car. LOL!

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Dad has an original 1965 Belvedere. It's not been raced for about 5 years but is ready to run if someone wants to buy it (hint, hint!)

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Certainly a lot of worthyl cars already mentioned here! I'll repeat Larry Jewell's vette and Helm's 3x championship winning Camaro and for giggles I'll add (I haven't seen any Buicks on the list) the Buick Apollo that Lee Zane drove to a Championship with in 2004 and won the 49th and 50th Indy!!

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My original B/SA Corvette was a1968 L-88 car,,,,
Bought it less motor and made it a race car, We found the tank sticker a few years later
when we took the tank out to fix a leak.
It's out there some place.....

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The Ewing brothers '69 Camaro SS/JA is a real Z-28. If I recall correctly older brother Kenny bought it new when he worked at GM and made it into a stocker soon afterwards. Not sure when it became a super stocker. I'm pretty sure that is close to what kenny told me 4 years ago or so.

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How about Jim Isherwoods 1967 Hemi Belvedere it is an orginal car somebody out of Canadá can share the specs on that car.

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Dave LeBrun's (now Johnny Gray's) '69 Camaro.

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I would have to say Bob Swan's 1967 Shelby GT500 and Steve Koppien’s COPO 427 have got to be high on the list.

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How about my 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 Convertible 428CJ Ram Air 4 Spd. I bought this car in 1973 and ran it in Stock Eliminator up til 93. I won Stock Eliminator at the Cars Magazine Championship back to back in 75 & 76 and many local races in the 70's & 80's. I still own it and it is still as I parked it in 1993 Stock Eliminator trim. It is documented by Kevin Marti 1 of 37 built. It is an original "R" code car and I have everything original from the car put away.

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That would be Jack Knight. If he wanted to sell it he should of sold it then, those cars are not bringing that kind of money now. That would have to be one of the most valuable though.

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Richies car is one of the orig. 50 lightweights built Dec. 67! He has had it since 1970. My vote.
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We had a b5 blue 71 hemi cuda conv 4spd we raced in ss/ea which is now restored that brought big Bucks. Now have 2 A990 65 plymouths. Also how about the 70 Chevelle conv of Briggs Chev driven by Ray Allen.It brought major bucks

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Div. 1 racer Pat Molle,s E/SA Camaro is an original COPO that he bought when it was Mos. old, still has orig. paint.

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And has the original window sticker on the window!

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Desirable not in order Value up to person

I prefer Mopars but....

original SS/AH hemi dart of the Comella family.

Any original 69.5 6 pack superbee or Road Runner....not sure if the one being competed with are real cars or not.....I really like them if they are original cars

Dragpaks done by Mike Roth

Original pilot dakotas.....I just like them

Any # matching A, B, or E body car in Stock, less so for superstock if cut, but still sweet.

Non-mopar

Current cars in the allstars

Broadbent's Z
Strang's Firebird
the Superstock brothers with the red novas...if you haven't seen them, they are stunning
Don's 67 nova(black)
All three of the Pires novas
Santangelos super stocker
The other shoe box novas

There are so too many to list just in the all stars before we get in to the cars like Gaffneys, the 67Z, etc.

Eric