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442OLDS 11-10-2013 01:20 AM

2014 Lucas Oil Drag Racing Schedule
 
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...80846#indextop

Chuck Comella 11-10-2013 07:21 AM

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How about Orlando getting the first Div 2 points meet .

SSDA Hemi 11-10-2013 07:37 AM

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Glad to see the Div. 2 opener back at Orlando but How about back to back races at Gainesville/ Reynolds in October, or the double header in Atlanta???

Very interesting schedule in Division 2 this year...

jmcarter 11-10-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi (Post 408127)
Glad to see the Div. 2 opener back at Orlando but How about back to back races at Gainesville/ Reynolds in October, or the double header in Atlanta???

Very interesting schedule in Division 2 this year...

Bet you are glad about Orlando after your great win there a couple of years ago. Bet it gives you a good opportunity to take your Ducati for a spin in seventy degree temps, right?

I'm surprised NHRA gave up their early season race at Gainesville and know Valdosta has wanted the pre-Gators weekend and really glad they got to keep it. Almost looks like D2 is really trying to help their other tracks. And yes, a double in Gainesville sounds better but guess they kept the double in Atlanta in order to lure more racers, something that didn't work out that good last year but who knows.

Greg Hill 11-10-2013 08:44 AM

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The double race in Atlanta is up against Michael Beard's class nationals.

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 08:53 AM

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The double in Atlanta MIGHT do better this year, since it is not scheduled against the SportsNational Open at Bowling Green.


Why do they insist on running at Bristol in the summer, when the air is just horrific? Bristol needs to be in the spring, or better stilll, in October or even November. Hold Bristol in October, when the air is good, and the leaves are turning, and they'd probably have to start setting quotas.

Back to back at Reynolds and Gainesville in October is terrible. There they go asking anyone in the northern part of the division to make a long drive on two consecutive weekends, requiring either an extra day off from work, or an all night drive. The Georgia state fair is probably the same weekend as Reynolds, too.

How about Gainesville in September, around when they used to hold Atlanta? Reynolds on the weekend of October 24-25-26? Bristol on November 7-8-9?

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 408131)
The double race in Atlanta is up against Michael Beard's class nationals.

Figures.

It almost seems like they try to put that against something else. Last year it was against the SportsNational Open in Bowling Green. And Bowling Green simply killed them. We had about as many at Bowling Green run the NitroPlate Combo as Atlanta had on the grounds.

Since it is up against Michael's race, I will retract my statement in the post above. I seriously doubt it will do any better than last year.

Honestly, a double in Atlanta isn't even a good idea, it's not a popular track, a lot of people really do not like it.

Even a race at Charlotte would probably do better.

jmcarter 11-10-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 408131)
The double race in Atlanta is up against Michael Beard's class nationals.

I missed that; but you're right, that will kill Atlanta. Alan has some good points but they'll never have a November race in D2, think they like the championship races to come to a head in Vegas.

hemiman4262003 11-10-2013 09:14 AM

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how many points do I need to enter a national event from these division races

Greg Hill 11-10-2013 09:25 AM

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I'm really glad to see St Louis back on the d3 schedule, but really the first week in August. Have any of you been to St.Louis then? Can you say heat indexes over 100. I realize it's hard to find a free weekend but that has to be one of the worst weather wise.

Larry Hill 11-10-2013 09:25 AM

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1 grade point. To get a grade point you have to pass tech.

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 408140)
I'm really glad to see St Louis back on the d3 schedule, but really the first week in August. Have any of you been to St.Louis then? Can you say heat indexes over 100. I realize it's hard to find a free weekend but that has to be one of the worst weather wise.


Sort of like when the geniuses moved Mepmhpis to August. There were times we sat in Memphis and watched them haul heat exhaustion patients out in ambulances at the rate of 2-3 an hour.

When you do that sort of thing you kill a race, for fans and for racers.
Is it any surprise when the tracks either go broke, or quit hosting those
races?

When will they learn that for the vast majority of competitors and spectators, racing is a leisure activity? It is reasonable to expect to be relatively comfortable. Fans do not want to seat in blistering heat and suffocating humidity, and watch a small field of slow cars. Racers don't want to sit in that any more than the fans do, and they don't want to go slow, either.

Sorry, changing the entire tune up of the car, still going 2 tenths slower, and needing to drink a gallon of water and two quarts of Gatorade to avoid a trip to the emergency room ain't my idea of fun.

Marty Knox 11-10-2013 09:40 AM

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I see Stanton is no longer on the schedule. I thought they might move it to Milan, but now we have no NHRA events in Michigan.

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 408136)
I missed that; but you're right, that will kill Atlanta. Alan has some good points but they'll never have a November race in D2, think they like the championship races to come to a head in Vegas.


Well, they do funnel everything toward the west coast in October and November. At least to a degree. And I can see how that is reasonable, for travel time and expenses for racers who are racing for a world title.

Hey, I bet we'd be willing to go to Reynolds the 3rd weekend of October and then to Bristol on the 4th weekend. Or move Reynolds to the first or second weekend.

luckydog 11-10-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty Knox (Post 408146)
I see Stanton is no longer on the schedule. I thought they might move it to Milan, but now we have no NHRA events in Michigan.

I don't believe Milan would want the race if it were offered too them......Would be fine with me tho...90 miles from home. Personally, I liked going to Stanton. The car count however proved my opinion is the minority.

Michael Beard 11-10-2013 10:47 AM

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In late October and early November, Bristol is liable to have high temps in the mid 40's.

Scheduling is a very difficult proposition, as you have to contend with not only weather and other Nat'l/Div'l events, but also each track's own schedule, outside promoter events, regional non-racing events, holidays, etc. There are multiple weekends when there are even 3-4 NHRA events on top of each other. I printed out a blank calendar and filled in all known dates so far... and I've got as many as 9 major events on the same date, already!

For the Class Nationals, we've got Atlanta and Ennis LODRS events on top of us, which is actually about as good as you're going to get for conflicts. The week before us, we have the Indy LODRS, less than 4 hours away, that people can use to make a swing out of the trip. Those two weeks are bookended by a buffer of Easter and Mother's Day.

Mickey Whaley 11-10-2013 10:50 AM

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moving Gainesville pts race was stupid, why not get it done while everyone is already down there?

Pete Beau 11-10-2013 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Knox (Post 408146)
I see Stanton is no longer on the schedule. I thought they might move it to Milan, but now we have no NHRA events in Michigan.

Northern D-3 racers now have (2) 10+ hour tows.

SSDA Hemi 11-10-2013 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 408129)
Bet you are glad about Orlando after your great win there a couple of years ago. Bet it gives you a good opportunity to take your Ducati for a spin in seventy degree temps, right?

You're right about that Jim! First weekend of February we're lucky if temps are in the twenties up North here! Much nicer down south with my division 2 buddies! :)

Gainesville/Reynolds races gives points chasers one or two more chances before schedule ends out west! But I agree with you Mickey. Really loved the Orlando/Gainesville opener. And then three weeks later, Gatornationals...

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 408154)
In late October and early November, Bristol is liable to have high temps in the mid 40's.

Scheduling is a very difficult proposition, as you have to contend with not only weather and other Nat'l/Div'l events, but also each track's own schedule, outside promoter events, regional non-racing events, holidays, etc. There are multiple weekends when there are even 3-4 NHRA events on top of each other. I printed out a blank calendar and filled in all known dates so far... and I've got as many as 9 major events on the same date, already!

For the Class Nationals, we've got Atlanta and Ennis LODRS events on top of us, which is actually about as good as you're going to get for conflicts. The week before us, we have the Indy LODRS, less than 4 hours away, that people can use to make a swing out of the trip. Those two weeks are bookended by a buffer of Easter and Mother's Day.


All valid points Michael.

If we're going to talk about weather, there are worse scheduling problems than possible cold at Bristol. There's a couple of races that get at least near rained out every year, and never get moved. Simply put, there's just no need to put both Bristol races at that time of the year. Spring or fall would be far better, and Bristol was in the spring for a long time.

Ed Wright 11-10-2013 11:36 AM

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One of the many good things about Div 4, other than killer track prep and wonderful officials, is no LODRS races in July or Aug. Thanks!!

Jeff Teuton 11-10-2013 11:51 AM

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Right ED, But June @ No Problem, hot, first week of hurricane season and no double-triple tied to Mardi Gras. Houston gets the race complete with mud pit, I'm gonna have to look at the schedule (National and Divisional) and analyze it. I will report back. I'm gonnaa have to consult with our DD. Maybe a double triple after the Gators.

Rat Raceway 11-10-2013 12:07 PM

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Looks good.

Is it time yet???? So ready to go already.:D

ken robinson 11-10-2013 12:45 PM

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I never been to norwalk ohio in may , whats that place like other than air like colubus .

Michael Beard 11-10-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ken robinson (Post 408175)
I never been to norwalk ohio in may , whats that place like other than air like colubus .

In a word: AWESOME!

Here's the "LIVE from" thread from this year's Norwalk LODRS:
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...k+LODRS&page=5

Ed Wright 11-10-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 408165)
Right ED, But June @ No Problem, hot, first week of hurricane season and no double-triple tied to Mardi Gras. Houston gets the race complete with mud pit, I'm gonna have to look at the schedule (National and Divisional) and analyze it. I will report back. I'm gonnaa have to consult with our DD. Maybe a double triple after the Gators.

Jeff, I may skip No Problem and make Topeka. Those 12+ hour drives used to be a lot easier. Heck, everything used to be easier. If I could sell it I would be done.

Joe Martens 11-10-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ken robinson (Post 408175)
I never been to norwalk ohio in may , whats that place like other than air like colubus .

Ken, you need to put Norwalk on your schedule. Drag Bender and Taylor with you, also! You will not regret it!

hemiman4262003 11-10-2013 01:24 PM

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thanks larry,im going to try to make indy,rt66 and gateway

442OLDS 11-10-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 408140)
I'm really glad to see St Louis back on the d3 schedule, but really the first week in August. Have any of you been to St.Louis then? Can you say heat indexes over 100. I realize it's hard to find a free weekend but that has to be one of the worst weather wise.

I noticed that too,but just figured out that it is a two day race.I am thinking that there will be a lot of qualifying and/or elimination runs on Friday and Saturday night which "might" help keep the heat index at 100 or less.

Alex Denysenko 11-10-2013 06:15 PM

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No more Stanton so now the great state of Michigan, no longer has a NHRA or IHRA event of any kind unless you consider that IHRA disaster held at Martin in August a event?
hard to believe that the former home state of THE US Nationals has not one nhra event!

Michael Beard 11-10-2013 07:46 PM

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Something I find interesting is that Bristol has become a mainstay in the big-money bracket racing world, routinely drawing over 400 cars for a single class type event. Why are the National and Divisional events not well-attended? It's undoubtedly a world-class facility.

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 408238)
Something I find interesting is that Bristol has become a mainstay in the big-money bracket racing world, routinely drawing over 400 cars for a single class type event. Why are the National and Divisional events not well-attended? It's undoubtedly a world-class facility.

Because they are now in June or July, in horrible weather, and up against other events, such as the Hot Rod Reunion.

When Bristol is in the summer, it just plain is not fun, period. I've seen the air in Bristol in the summer be as bad as or worse than the air at Bandimere on the same day.

Tracy Robbins 11-10-2013 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 408238)
Something I find interesting is that Bristol has become a mainstay in the big-money bracket racing world, routinely drawing over 400 cars for a single class type event. Why are the National and Divisional events not well-attended? It's undoubtedly a world-class facility.

May be the time of the year or the fact there is no altitude adjustment and some of us have a hard time running under the index up there. I would love to go back to Bristol but not until I can get a little more performance out of my combination.

Alan Roehrich 11-10-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracy Robbins (Post 408244)
May be the time of the year or the fact there is no altitude adjustment and some of us have a hard time running under the index up there. I would love to go back to Bristol but not until I can get a little more performance out of my combination.

I think Bristol may be the highest altitude track that does not get an adjustment. As stated above, I'm sure it has the worst air of a track that gets no adjustment, especially in June or July.

There was a time when the trees helped with the oxygen, but they're mostly gone now.

It's a beautiful facility, I love the place. I just wish they'd put it back in the spring, or better still move it to the fall. I hate being there in the summer.

Mike Fuller 11-10-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 408227)
No more Stanton so now the great state of Michigan, no longer has a NHRA or IHRA event of any kind unless you consider that IHRA disaster held at Martin in August a event?
hard to believe that the former home state of THE US Nationals has not one nhra event!

Stanton has become a dangerous place to race in my view. This year many of the comp racers left before eliminations began. The division three people thought they had a chance of convincing Martin to change over to NHRA. That did not happen. Milan would not be a bad choice but there seems to be some reason why NHRA will not put a divisional event there (I think I know why).

The division three schedule has three races with awful weather. Like some other members stated in this thread, racing in these conditions is not fun for racers and spectators alike. People keep showing up so things will not change.

The Hawk 11-10-2013 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 408242)
I've seen the air in Bristol in the summer be as bad as or worse than the air at Bandimere on the same day.

Over 10,000 feet?!!!

JRyan 11-10-2013 11:48 PM

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Lane, it may be higher or as high on Denvers best days. which are still over 5000. But at least at Bristol there is some oxygen. I have never been to Bristol but do agree looking at past races that it should be scheduled at a different time.

Rick

Dyno 11-11-2013 12:01 AM

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For the 1st time since 2011, the race at Great Bend and Topeka are back to back. This should help the numbers for the Division 5 race. Dyno

camaro92 11-11-2013 11:18 AM

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Went to bristol ran 1279. 3 months later went to charlotte ran 1217. 6 tenths is crazy, Didnt change anything on the car The air in the summer is crazy up there

jmantle 11-11-2013 08:24 PM

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Does anyone on the west coast know who is in the running for the div 6 "TBA" race?
Medford? Double header at one of the other tracks?

Jim Mantle U/V/SA 6632


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