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Todd Hoven 09-13-2013 05:09 PM

Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats on your factory shootout win at Zmax today, and well on the
#1Q spot.

Superfan1 09-13-2013 05:40 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Big time congrats David; the 9.015 was great; and then an 8.999@147.29 in the Factory Stock Showdown final!

boostedf22c 09-13-2013 05:41 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats!

PROVING once again you have the baddest Drag Pak car on the planet!

Why others don't just buy your engine and electronics package is beyond me.

Carguy49 09-13-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 399796)
Big time congrats David; the 9.015 was great; and then an 8.999@147.29 in the Factory Stock Showdown final!


Way to go David. 1.5 under in the final - WOW!!!

Jeff Teuton 09-13-2013 06:46 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
The motor didn't pass in Indy.

Todd Hoven 09-13-2013 07:39 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
No but it passed at Etown when resubmitted for tech

Ken Miele 09-13-2013 08:03 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 399811)
The motor didn't pass in Indy.

Jeff,

Come on guy, give credit where credit is due. David was 3 tenths of a cc shy on the runner volume. Hardly a performance advantage.

David past tech with flying colors at e-town the week after Indy. Think what you want about Barton, but he is dam fast and everyone knows it. 8.99@147 2800ft with a bar of 29.11 is fast is anybody's book. Great Job David and Al Carp and everyone involved.

With all do respect Jeff, I'm not sure this was the thread to make such a post.

George Fitzpatrick 09-13-2013 08:16 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boostedf22c (Post 399797)
Congrats!

PROVING once again you have the baddest Drag Pak car on the planet!

Why others don't just buy your engine and electronics package is beyond me.

x2 Congrats keep it going.

cutta 09-13-2013 08:32 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats on the win and the success David!

Dave Ribeiro 09-13-2013 08:38 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
David Barton , just keeps going faster & faster & is one the hardest working racers out there !!! Let's give credit where its due & save the Sour Grapes for the race-track ? Like everyone says they make Big Power !

gbur 09-13-2013 08:51 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats and knowing you have higher goals. Keep up the attitude

Don Moulton 09-13-2013 09:46 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Great Job David! I am very happy for you!

boster 09-13-2013 10:22 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats David , way to go

SSDA Hemi 09-14-2013 07:04 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats David!

Hard work and persistence does pay off... Cant wait to see what it'll run in some real air!

Frank Castros 09-14-2013 07:47 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congratulations David, and I hope FS is planned for the Dutch Classic.

Say what you want about these new age Super Cars, but it sure has injected the Buzz drag racing has needed.

Signman 09-14-2013 08:34 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Right to the head of the class!
Hard work and sticking to it does pay off!

Peter Ash 09-14-2013 09:56 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Great Job of it Team Barton!

Superfan1 09-14-2013 10:05 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 399889)
Congratulations David, and I hope FS is planned for the Dutch Classic.

Say what you want about these new age Super Cars, but it sure has injected the Buzz drag racing has needed.

FS will be run at the Dutch Classic; it is called American Muscle and will be run on Friday Oct.11. Here is a link to the flyer - http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/blog/?page_id=10541

Chris Holbrook 09-14-2013 10:18 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats job well done!

V M Kauffman 09-14-2013 10:51 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Sounds like sour grapes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 399811)
The motor didn't pass in Indy.


Mike Carr 09-14-2013 11:24 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
I haven't seen the published minimum weights for the FSC, but what do they compare to, in a traditional Stock class? Example, min wt in FSC for a '12 COPO 427/425 (or any of the FSC combinations), is it close to BB weight? CC? In between? Just wondering. Either way, 8.99 is pretty darn quick for a naturally aspirated motor at 3,000+ pounds. It wasn't THAT long ago (spring 2001) that the first nine (9) second Stocker run was made. Now, a mere twelve years later, we have about ten-twelve cars with EIGHT second runs to their credit. Would have made for a decent head start if I still had the HF/SA car :p

michel426 09-14-2013 03:02 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
way to go David! You guys know how to do it! Big congrats!!

Superfan1 09-14-2013 03:19 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
David broke out in Rd. 3 - dialed 8.92 and ran 8.907@148.71. Incredible performance by David and his team!

jmcarter 09-14-2013 03:19 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 399917)
I haven't seen the published minimum weights for the FSC, but what do they compare to, in a traditional Stock class? Example, min wt in FSC for a '12 COPO 427/425 (or any of the FSC combinations), is it close to BB weight? CC? In between? Just wondering. Either way, 8.99 is pretty darn quick for a naturally aspirated motor at 3,000+ pounds. It wasn't THAT long ago (spring 2001) that the first nine (9) second Stocker run was made. Now, a mere twelve years later, we have about ten-twelve cars with EIGHT second runs to their credit. Would have made for a decent head start if I still had the HF/SA car :p

Barton was at 3350 min....here's what NHRA announced earlier..

FS/AC: Minimum weight up to 400 cid, 3,250 pounds; 401 to 450 cid, 3,350 pounds; 10.50 index
FS/DC: Minimum weight 451-plus cid, 3,200 pounds; all supercharged, 3,500 pounds; 10.20 index

Superfan1 09-14-2013 03:33 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Announced by the NHRA on March 27:

FS/AC: Minimum weight up to 400 CID 3250Lbs, 401 to 450 CID 3350Lbs, index 10.50

FS/DC: Minimum weight 451 + CID 3200Lbs, all supercharged 3500Lbs, index 10.20

According to the NHRA Classification Guide, David's car has a factor of 7.11 which makes it a "natural" BB car, minimum weight 3200 lbs, on a 10.30 index. That means he was 150 lbs heavy, but he was running on a 10.50 index instead of the 10.30 BB index. No matter how you look at it; that car is scary fast!

Mike Carr 09-14-2013 03:45 PM

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Hmmm... A 2012, 427/425-445 COPO Camaro. In BB/SA, it weighs 3,285 pound minimum weight. 10.30 Index, so any run of 9.100 or quicker results in a penalty.

In FS/AC, It will weigh 3,350 pounds. 10.50 Index. And NO penalty via the AHFS.

Let's see...add sixty-five pounds...get a two-tenths softer Index...and the ability to run as fast as you want, with no AHFS penalty.

Yeah...I'd run the FSCS too...lol.


Not a knock on David (or anyone in FSCS) for doing what they do. That is flying at 8.90. Without a blower, too! Wonder how close other cars were to AA, BB etc weight.

Superfan1 09-14-2013 04:29 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 399941)
Hmmm... A 2012, 427/425-445 COPO Camaro. In BB/SA, it weighs 3,285 pound minimum weight. 10.30 Index, so any run of 9.100 or quicker results in a penalty.

In FS/AC, It will weigh 3,350 pounds. 10.50 Index. And NO penalty via the AHFS.

Let's see...add sixty-five pounds...get a two-tenths softer Index...and the ability to run as fast as you want, with no AHFS penalty.

Yeah...I'd run the FSCS too...lol.


Not a knock on David (or anyone in FSCS) for doing what they do. That is flying at 8.90. Without a blower, too! Wonder how close other cars were to AA, BB etc weight.

Mike, where are you getting your 3285 minimum weight. The Guide shows 3200 lbs. (7.11X450HP=3199.5 lbs.) BB is 7.00 - 7.49, to run at the class minimum weight; he would weigh 3150 lbs (7.00X450HP=3150 lbs.)

Andrew Hill 09-14-2013 04:53 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 399943)
Mike, where are you getting your 3285 minimum weight. The Guide shows 3200 lbs. (7.11X450HP=3199.5 lbs.) BB is 7.00 - 7.49, to run at the class minimum weight; he would weigh 3150 lbs (7.00X450HP=3150 lbs.)

You have to add 170 for the driver, a 426 Drag Pack would be 3320 in BB, so 30 lbs less for .2 harder index. Mike was talking about the 427 COPO though.

Superfan1 09-14-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 399947)
You have to add 170 for the driver, a 426 Drag Pack would be 3320 in BB, so 30 lbs less for .2 harder index. Mike was talking about the 427 COPO though.

I know about adding 170 lbs for the driver, but even with that; the numbers weren't making any sense. However, I didn't realize that Mike was referring to a COPO; attribute that to a "senior moment".

Greg Hill 09-14-2013 06:13 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
That car is impressive for a N/A "stocker". Seems to me like it would have to make 800hp or a little more.

Ed Wright 09-14-2013 09:54 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Which engine is this? Very impressive, whichever it is!

JeffM 09-15-2013 06:11 AM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Congrats David. It was nice to meet you this weekend. Well deserved win.

David Barton 09-15-2013 07:48 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Thank you everybody for the support, it means a lot to me. I have to say it was pretty cool racing the FS class. I hope it continues to grow as much as some people anticipate.

I definitely can't take all of the credit because I could not have done it without a long list of people. Most importantly Al Carp and my Dad Ray. I wouldn't be in this position without either one of them. I also have to thank Mopar and Arrow, Dale Aldo, Mike Roth for the killer chassis, AEM, Santhuff Shocks, Joel's On Joy Trans, and ATI Converters. They not only made it all come together in such a short amount of time, but they also provided me with the parts I needed to pull it off.

And I can't leave out the fact that Ken Miele went out of his way to help out a fellow racer. After Indy he knew I was in need of a way to make it to Charlotte so he offered to pick me up and bring me along. He also introduced me to a great bunch of guys, the Cook Brothers racing team. They backed me 100% all weekend. They made me feel like I was right at home.

Thanks again.

Dan Bernay 09-15-2013 10:16 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Barton (Post 400091)
Thank you everybody for the support, it means a lot to me. I have to say it was pretty cool racing the FS class. I hope it continues to grow as much as some people anticipate.

I definitely can't take all of the credit because I could not have done it without a long list of people. Most importantly Al Carp and my Dad Ray. I wouldn't be in this position without either one of them. I also have to thank Mopar and Arrow, Dale Aldo, Mike Roth for the killer chassis, AEM, Santhuff Shocks, Joel's On Joy Trans, and ATI Converters. They not only made it all come together in such a short amount of time, but they also provided me with the parts I needed to pull it off.

And I can't leave out the fact that Ken Miele went out of his way to help out a fellow racer. After Indy he knew I was in need of a way to make it to Charlotte so he offered to pick me up and bring me along. He also introduced me to a great bunch of guys, the Cook Brothers racing team. They backed me 100% all weekend. They made me feel like I was right at home.

Thanks again.

You are a class act David!

Superfan1 09-16-2013 06:09 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 399973)
Which engine is this? Very impressive, whichever it is!

426 Hemi.

Nick Heath 09-16-2013 07:29 PM

Re: Congrats to David Barton
 
I am, and always will be a Ford guy at heart...but I sure do like watching that maroon Challenger go down the track! Congrats, David!


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