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Jim Kaekel 07-25-2013 12:52 PM

Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Weather's looking good for Stanton. Looks to be nice and cool.

rx dealer 07-25-2013 05:23 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Will be on the road tomorrow......Luke SS 311

CBS 07-25-2013 08:52 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Looks like 70's......should be fun....going tomorrow to test....

Mike Fuller 07-25-2013 09:24 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Track prep was not the best the last time I tried their test and tune.

Larry Hill 07-26-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
It sounds like we are going to miss very good weather and a fun race.

The really good part of the weekend will be 4 out of the top 5 players in national points will be there.
Correction - Patsy said Bo and Randi Lyn are in the Bahamas swimming with the dolphins!

Jody is racing in Sonoma this weekend.

Do you take a 1 second run or quicker to get to #1 on the sheet to get the first bye, or do you hang around the middle of the sheet and hope to shoot a wounded quail first round. Can some one play the ladder game and position themselves to run #1 qualifier, get the bye next round, and later get the bye into the finals? I love to watch a good checker game!!!

Back to work for me I'm still trying to qualify for Indy, 30 entries so far and everyone is faster than us. On a side note only three or four carb cars in the 30 entries.

Lynn A McCarty 07-26-2013 12:50 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Used to be the best hooking track, last time we were there nothing was hooking. We decided never to go back. It was dangerous not just inconvenient. Several wrecks.

Please let us know if they have improved. There was a situation with a farmer next door, but don't remember the particulars (CRS).

Mike Delahanty 07-26-2013 07:47 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Friday test and tune rained out.

Marty Knox 07-26-2013 10:03 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Prediction for earlier today was 79 - 79 - 80. 79 degrees, 79 % humidity, 80% chance of showers. Here in Freeland, 60 miles east/northeast, it started sprinkling about 4:30, it's raining now at 10 PM. I'll be leaving about 6:30 AM, hope it's stopped raining by morning.

Mike Delahanty 07-27-2013 01:10 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Barometer is low - 28.85 and temps are in the low 70s this morning. A number of the first cars out spun. It starting sprinkling after 10 pair went down the track. After about 20 minutes qualifying continued. Car count looks weak across all eliminators.

Andrew Hill 07-27-2013 01:27 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Walked up to the starting line this morning, not much to work with. However, the track seems to be hooking great after the first ~10 stockers ran. My car left great, tons of big wheelies in SS (hope somebody has a picture of Jeremy Duncan's), the Wescotts both got down the track well. Brad and the rest of the guys on the starting line seem to be doing a damn good job!

On another note, the scales are about 40 lbs light compared to Columbus.

Steve Williams 07-27-2013 02:26 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
I am guessing that there is no DRC there? No reports of anything even going down track. Wanted to drive out late today and visit tomorrow, but the forecast looks pretty weak. Those that are there, keep us informed as to weather conditions and your thoughts if a race can even happen tomorrow.

Paul Hellenberg 07-27-2013 11:59 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
We had spotty rain several times but I think all the qualifying rounds got in. It will be cool but the race should get in. There is still no DRC but that is not the first time. I am guessing it will happen later.

Mike Delahanty 07-28-2013 08:45 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Sunday morning - 53 degrees and a light drizzle. Radar map forecast shows the showers circling the area for much of the day. Track driers are out there.

Stock and S/S got a 4th run last evening around 8:00.

Some racers have already pulled out.

Steve Williams 07-28-2013 09:52 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
The forecast for today from a couple of sources indicate the current showers will pull out only to have more, 40%-50% all day long starting sometime after 11am. Weather and back to back weekends look like it took a toll on the fields.

Mike Delahanty 07-28-2013 12:19 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Rain stopped and Stock got its first round in. Sprinkles returned just as S/ST was about done. Looks like this cat and mouse game with the sprinkles just might work

Weather is close to last 2 runs yesterday and headwind is not as bad.

Mike Delahanty 07-28-2013 01:32 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Just when it appeared the weather was going to hold out a light sprinkle turned into a rain shower. S/G just finished and S/S was paired and ready to go.

The good news is that there's blue skies and some sun drifting in from the west. It will take a while to get the track back.

Mike Delahanty 07-28-2013 04:01 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
For the last 3 hours three has been a steady cycle of showers followed by clear skys. Throughout this the track staff has been working on drying the track. And just when it looks likes it has dried up enough to get back to racing another shower wipes out whatever progress has been made. Looks like most of the race cars are tied down in the trailers and ready to roll. Right now the sun is shining, but to the west another dark rain cell is approaching.

Andrew Hill 07-28-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
They were able to finish the first round of everything, but it started raining again right before the second round of stock. They announced they're running tomorrow starting at 10 am. There were a whole lot of people leaving, I'd guess there will be around 15 each left in stock and SS of the 25, I know I won't be there. The weather tomorrow doesn't look that great either

Beth Denysenko 07-28-2013 09:54 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
So sorry for everyone involved...it's been a tough year for D3 racers and races!!

Mike Delahanty 07-29-2013 07:07 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
There were 6 or more first run byes in round 1 of S/S due to guys just pulling out due to the rain. Round 2 of Stock pairings looked like 4 byes due to no shows. There will be even more this morning. I'll be one of those no-shows as I'm leaving on a family vacation this morning. Wandering thru the pits later in the day yesterday, I observed what appeared to be racers in heated phone conversations with their wives explaining why they won't be home tonite.

rx dealer 07-29-2013 11:49 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
My trans would not go into 4th so I was one of the no shows in SS...Luke SS 311

Mike Fuller 07-29-2013 06:04 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
This meet was a minor disaster in my opinion. The scales were off by 45 lbs. The right lane had ruts in it at top end that caused my car to weave left to right in high gear. One comp team left, saying that it was too dangerous for them to try and race there. The scales were not in operation today and I lost in a heads race. When this is the case at an IHRA event they do not have heads up races (all races are a dial in). I hope the stories I heard there about moving the event are true.

Beth Denysenko 07-29-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
No scales should automatically mean no heads up, dial in only. I am so sorry, Mike. What a rotten way to lose a round! Sounds like the only thing we missed this weekend was spending rain soaked quality time with good friends we miss dearly!

442OLDS 07-29-2013 07:32 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 392622)
This meet was a minor disaster in my opinion. The scales were off by 45 lbs. The right lane had ruts in it at top end that caused my car to weave left to right in high gear. One comp team left, saying that it was too dangerous for them to try and race there. The scales were not in operation today and I lost in a heads race. When this is the case at an IHRA event they do not have heads up races (all races are a dial in). I hope the stories I heard there about moving the event are true.


If you are calling this a "minor" disaster,I would hate to be at a race that you would call a "major" disaster.Sounds pretty screwed up.

Steve Williams 07-29-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 392622)
This meet was a minor disaster in my opinion. The scales were off by 45 lbs. The right lane had ruts in it at top end that caused my car to weave left to right in high gear. One comp team left, saying that it was too dangerous for them to try and race there. The scales were not in operation today and I lost in a heads race. When this is the case at an IHRA event they do not have heads up races (all races are a dial in). I hope the stories I heard there about moving the event are true.

If it unsafe for one, it is unsafe for all. Which Comp team pulled out?

Andrew Hill 07-29-2013 10:49 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Williams (Post 392646)
If it unsafe for one, it is unsafe for all. Which Comp team pulled out?

I believe it was Scott Chamness. I heard nearly all of the comp teams voted on Saturday or Sunday morning to run the entire race at Bowling Green, and some agreed to leave anyways once that idea was nixed by the decision maker, but I guess they ended up staying for some reason.

I just hope this race can be moved somewhere else next year, Martin would be best if NHRA could get it. There definitely needs to be a D3 points race in Michigan, but Stanton is just not a good place to have it.

Lyn Smith 07-30-2013 08:40 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
That rumour gets started every year about this time.As long as the owners of Stanton want to pay NHRA to have a points race they will get one.

ss wannabee 07-30-2013 09:09 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
If top end was so bad...and weather wasn't much better...wonder if a move to finish the
event as an 1/8th race would be in order?

I know it sounds strange....but didn't something like this happen not too long ago at an
IHRA National Event...think problem was top end crosswinds?

Realize everyone went to race on the 1/4-mile...but shorter races (to "speed-up" event
and beat the weather)....and the top end would now be shut-down area...(perhaps a
little safer?)

Might have had a chance to finish on Sunday...as an 1/8th mile event? Just wondering?

njk53 07-30-2013 10:59 AM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
My brother and I were just talking about this same subject. We always wondered why Milan didn't have a Div. 3 Points race. Milan isn't a Norwalk from a facility standpoint but, it sure doesn't have ruts in the surface on the high end.

Michael Beard 07-30-2013 12:23 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss wannabee (Post 392702)
If top end was so bad...and weather wasn't much better...wonder if a move to finish the
event as an 1/8th race would be in order?

Many tracks do not have an early turn off, which makes the difference between the run time of 1/8th mile vs 1/4 mile negligible in many circumstances. Also, you would have to give additional time trials to all of the throttle stop categories, as their setups are different for 1/8 vs 1/4.

Quote:

Might have had a chance to finish on Sunday...as an 1/8th mile event? Just wondering?
While hindsight is 20/20, when faced with a potentially rainy forecast, you could make up more time by starting eliminations after the 2nd qualifying run instead of having 3 or more qualifying sessions.

Andrew Hill 07-30-2013 04:00 PM

Re: Stanton, Mich. Div. 3 Event
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 392721)
While hindsight is 20/20, when faced with a potentially rainy forecast, you could make up more time by starting eliminations after the 2nd qualifying run instead of having 3 or more qualifying sessions.

That's exactly what should have happened. I think 3 rounds would have been possible on Saturday afternoon with the low car count. At that point you have 7 cars left in Stock and SS, probably around the same in the Super classes. If you ran 2 rounds of Comp, TD, and TS that afternoon you would have 5 TD, 2 TS, and 5 Comp cars left. With the amount of time we had to race on Sunday, the race could have been finished.


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