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RonTheAnnouncer 04-12-2013 10:14 PM

Do you race your stocker/super stocker at "regular" races?
 
I was wondering how many dedicated stock and super stock cars go to a "regular" bracket race, be it a local points night or a big money bracket race. I know I've seen several stockers and super stockers running the "Loose Rocker" races. If not, how many national and divisional races do you run a year?
Just my curious mind at work. :D

SStockDart 04-12-2013 10:36 PM

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I know of several "Stocker guys" that race brackets with their cars in the Phoenix area. Personally, I would run our stocker at bracket races in the area, but not the Super Stock car....it is all a matter of economics.

Carl Battis 04-12-2013 10:41 PM

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I haven't done it yet - but I just moved to the Dallas area. After the Div 4 Points Race next week I plan on checking it out. As best I can tell there are quite a few bracket events all around the Dallas area. I have to admit I don't know too much about the various classes within the bracket racing community - but I'm looking forward to learning. It seems there are no end to the events of which I have no idea what they do - like Fun and Grudge for instance. I guess I'll go and check it out and see where I can compete and have some fun.

Having come from California it's kind of nice to have some tracks to go on a regular basis that aren't closed due to noise, EPA, spotted owls, rare bluegills or seagrass. It will be an education for sure and I'm pretty psyched to give it a try. If anyone has any info to share regarding tracks in the Dallas area and what goes on I would appreciate it.

Mike Carr 04-12-2013 10:50 PM

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I always did when I raced. Wednesday night Gamblers, Fri/Sat/Sun bracket programs as well. 2003, when there was the National event at Columbus (my closest one), I stayed home, ran my home track (Quaker City), paid $175 to enter three separate $1,000 to win Footbrake races that Scotty/Edmond Richardson were involved with.

Randy Loge 04-12-2013 11:29 PM

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Me,Chad,Jerry Stein,Larry Giley,Scott and Brad Burton,Mark Faul and a bunch more are at the Vegas Spring Fling!!! Great Time and lotsa good racers!!!!

tony wood 04-12-2013 11:32 PM

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Jimmy hidalgo jr. races at no problem with one of his stockers. wins alot of races.

Geerhead55 04-13-2013 12:24 AM

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As you can see on one of the other threads,, Brad had a very nice start to his weekend.
Danny Durham

MadMax404 04-13-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Battis (Post 377271)
I haven't done it yet - but I just moved to the Dallas area. After the Div 4 Points Race next week I plan on checking it out. As best I can tell there are quite a few bracket events all around the Dallas area. I have to admit I don't know too much about the various classes within the bracket racing community - but I'm looking forward to learning. It seems there are no end to the events of which I have no idea what they do - like Fun and Grudge for instance. I guess I'll go and check it out and see where I can compete and have some fun.

Having come from California it's kind of nice to have some tracks to go on a regular basis that aren't closed due to noise, EPA, spotted owls, rare bluegills or seagrass. It will be an education for sure and I'm pretty psyched to give it a try. If anyone has any info to share regarding tracks in the Dallas area and what goes on I would appreciate it.


Carl we have 5 sanctioned(3ihra, 2 nhra)tracks within the DFW metroplex alone. Many more within just a couple hour drive outside. Everyone is racing at some point between Thursday-Sunday every week. Today, we have a door car only event at Dallas Raceway($5000/win Box, $2000 to win no-box). Ill be taking the crate motor car to run no box and my super street car to run Box. Let me know any info you'd be interested in knowing. I race every weekend from February-November in the area when not running divisionals/nationals. I am in North Dallas and every track is within a 30-45min drive from my doorstep.

Spencer 04-13-2013 09:13 AM

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Check out the Thursday and Friday results from the K&N Spring Fling in Las Vegas. Stockers won Pro class both nights (Brad Burton and Ryan Mangus).

boostedf22c 04-13-2013 09:19 AM

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I don't bracket race mine, but I run it in some heads up classes outside of NHRA Super Stock.

jmcarter 04-13-2013 09:41 AM

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Big pro is brackets keep you sharp but you can set up a "cheaper" bracket car such that it's very close to your class car. To me the biggest drawback is a class car is usually on a ~200 run freshen interval vs. ~500 run bracket motor.

Michael Beard 04-13-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 377318)
Big pro is brackets keep you sharp but you can set up a "cheaper" bracket car such that it's very close to your class car. To me the biggest drawback is a class car is usually on a ~200 run freshen interval vs. ~500 run bracket motor.

I bracket race my Class cars. While I have the bracket car my dad built and still race it from time to time, my Super Stocker is faster and more consistent, and the additional seat time is invaluable, particularly since so many Class events are limited runs spread over multiple days. If you were starting out from scratch, I would think it would be cheaper to build and maintain one car than two...

Last time the bracket car was freshened was 2001, and the Class car typically gets something fresh more out of want than need.

GarysZ24 04-14-2013 06:25 PM

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I haven't done it primarily because my stocker is slower than the NHRA Pro ET brackets et limit (I believe 13.99 sec.). Sportsman payouts are much lower than Stock (or Pro ET), payouts are. I didn't build my car to race for $200 bucks or less (regularly). However, for now it doesn't really matter since (for the time being anyway), metro Phoenix has no tracks to race at, and thus the only bracket racing I could do would be in the No-Box class at S.I.R. in Tucson, for the IHRA. Their bracket category at least pays $550 for the winner ($700 if more than 32 cars). Only if a divisional is coming up that I can attend, would I race my car for what the Sportsman brackets pay, due to the seat time needed...regularly though? Not...

Furthermore, I don't have the pleasure of storing my racing operation where I live, and that creates more challenges with my being able to race in a state, that due to summertime heat, races late in the afternoon, until midnight...not good if the person you store your rig with doesn't have the same interest/desires...

Robbie Draughon 04-14-2013 10:50 PM

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I bracket race my stick shift super stocker almost every weekend. Run bracket points in no box at Fayetteville (my home track). Usually put over 300 runs a year on my car. I have a log book full of info for about any situation because of bracket racing. Seat time means more than anything you do. Why spend thousands of dollars and hours working on your car and not spend as much time working on your driver?:)

RonTheAnnouncer 04-15-2013 09:59 AM

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I've had the pleasure of watching Robbi make lots of passes down the track at the 2 big money bracket races I've announced in NC. The car looks as good as it goes, and Robbie is a heck of a driver!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMeMIo6e8LY

cad 04-15-2013 01:09 PM

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I would highly recommend getting more of the Stock guys/gals to get more seat time racing PRO ET (Summit Series), or the No-Box class on Non-Summit weekends. I know Brad and Scott Burton ran the Summit series at home in D5 as I saw them at the ET Finals in Topeka two years ago.
There is no replacement for seat time. The practice tree only goes so far.
I personally know Matt Harris who raced his Cutlas Comp car with a bracket engine in 2009/2010 until the Grand Am was rebuilt, and Shaun Vincent bracket raced his "new" S/S Trans Am a handful of times over the last year few years with a bracket engine, and last year with their SS engine. Both did very well.
The only draw back for S/S in Pro ET is, technically, the car cannot have a data acquisition computer connected while racing.

Clark

Lee Valentine 04-15-2013 05:53 PM

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Ran super pro at Lebanon valley yesterday seat time never hurts. c/sa 97 firebird.

Li'l Rick Pennington 04-23-2013 02:18 PM

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I lucked up and pulled off a win in No Box Saturday night at Montgomery with Robert Hindman's D/SA Cobra Jet.

Li'l Rick

Dion Hildebrandt 04-23-2013 02:43 PM

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Yes I run regular brackets with my stocker.....usually go rounds too ...

ALMACK 04-23-2013 03:37 PM

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Ran my T-Bird Stocker for the first time Sat. night at our local DOT bracket races. Semi final finish.

Did some time trials with the lightweight 30 " Hoosier slicks.
Then switched to 6 year old- 28" tall heavy M&H DOT drag radials. (as required to have in the class)

Car ran the same e.t. either way. :)

Manny Sousa 04-23-2013 06:19 PM

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Jim Woods' "Borrowed Money" IS a bracket car that just so happens to be legal to run stock. LOL! I have bracket raced it more than ran Stock Eliminator.

Manny Sousa

dartman 04-24-2013 09:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Sousa (Post 378641)
Jim Woods' "Borrowed Money" IS a bracket car that just so happens to be legal to run stock. LOL! I have bracket raced it more than ran Stock Eliminator.

Manny Sousa

x2

same as my car,a bracket car that just so happens to .80 under on a good day

Ellis V. Buth 04-24-2013 05:52 PM

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ALMACK-

Glad to see a fellow Ford racer bracket racing his stocker. Is that car by chance a Turbo Coupe?

BLIND MULE 04-24-2013 07:31 PM

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Ric congrats on the win Sat. didn't get to tell you we were so busy trying to get the Beretta sorted out made it to 4 first time out! Track was iffy we were spinning about 500 feet out!


Randy

ALMACK 04-26-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellis V. Buth (Post 378783)
ALMACK-

Glad to see a fellow Ford racer bracket racing his stocker. Is that car by chance a Turbo Coupe?

Why yes it is Ellis.
Perhaps you recognized the car ;)


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