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SEN 03-12-2012 06:43 PM

Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
I have noticed several quality LT1 B, C, and D/S/SAs for sale. Not being up to date on the rules and indexes, has something changed to make these cars less competitive?

Chad Rhodes 03-12-2012 06:52 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEN (Post 314939)
I have noticed several quality LT1 B, C, and D/S/SAs for sale. Not being up to date on the rules and indexes, has something changed to make these cars less competitive?

Probably the new factory cars

RANDY PAYNE 03-12-2012 07:43 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
might be because of the 68 hp that has been added. not but a few that will run 95 under. i am going to be buried in mine. biggg

Woodro Josey 03-12-2012 08:16 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Hey Randy, not a bad idea!:p

Chad Rhodes 03-12-2012 08:30 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodro Josey (Post 314955)
Hey Randy, not a bad idea!:p

In that case Woodro, keep racing it!!!!!

Ed Wright 03-12-2012 08:52 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 314958)
In that case Woodro, keep racing it!!!!!

Yeah!!

KRatcliff 03-12-2012 10:08 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEN (Post 314939)
I have noticed several quality LT1 B, C, and D/S/SAs for sale. Not being up to date on the rules and indexes, has something changed to make these cars less competitive?

I think they are just as competitive as ever. Not sure why some are selling.

EMMONS MOTORSPORTS 03-13-2012 12:01 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 314994)
I think they are just as competitive as ever. Not sure why some are selling.

REALLY Kyle??? Did YOU just say THAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

KRatcliff 03-13-2012 12:03 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Well... :D

Ed Wright 03-13-2012 07:57 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Your packing a lot more weight against the other combos than they used to.

KRatcliff 03-13-2012 08:32 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
For C we are still one of the lighter cars. The weight thingy is pretty much in proportion. I can't think of any combo that runs C/SA that the LT1s shouldn't be able to run with competitively.

countrypuppy4865 03-13-2012 08:51 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Kyle,
You can't think of enough combos!

KRatcliff 03-13-2012 08:56 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Ok...the 396 iron head of PC Richards/Bertozzi, Glassbrenner's 400 Pontiac, Corda's LS1 Vette are some of the fastest in class. That being said, I still feel that we can be competitive against those.

Frank Bialas 03-13-2012 10:05 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 315040)
Your packing a lot more weight against the other combos than they used to.

You think???---NAAA!!!

Jared Jordan 03-13-2012 10:22 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Bialas (Post 315058)
You think???---NAAA!!!

Frank,

I don't think anyone has YOU covered in weight. I mean the car, of course.

Frank Bialas 03-13-2012 11:20 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan (Post 315061)
Frank,

I don't think anyone has YOU covered in weight. I mean the car, of course.

Jared, your right! I can't just add some junk to my trunk. To run C/SA I have to add over 200 lbs. and it needs to be distributed through out the car if you like your rear bumper!!! Larger radiator A/C-high altitude type +13lbs on front,different transmission&ratio---converter/real tight,very deep pan +27lbs.change out the whole rear end housing and ratio + about 12lbs. A 100lbs. gets bolted in and the rest in the box, a little insurance weight and WAA-LAA your almost 4000lbs.

Kegracing 03-13-2012 10:53 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Kyle,
If you get any more hp you are going to have to buy stock in a lead factory or put my fat butt in there somewhere!
Seriously, you have yours running good. Might not be fair compared to some of the new stuff now, but give them a little time... you and some others have a solid combo that will repeat with the LT-1.
Ken

MikeFicacci 03-14-2012 08:35 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
I enjoy trying to chase those guys. I think we all can agree the 454 is not the greatest combo out there but Division 1 has a awesome collection of C cars from the LT1, LS1, Steel 396, 428 Ford. Gary has me covered by 2 tenths.....he told me that 3 days ago. Ha. Trying to make the horsepower and getting the right setup is a lot of the fun with the Corvette. I have close to 300 pounds in the car also to get to C weight.

KRatcliff 03-14-2012 08:42 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegracing (Post 315199)
Kyle,
If you get any more hp you are going to have to buy stock in a lead factory or put my fat butt in there somewhere!
Seriously, you have yours running good. Might not be fair compared to some of the new stuff now, but give them a little time... you and some others have a solid combo that will repeat with the LT-1.
Ken

Thanks Ken. It is very gratifying to work on these combos and get more performance out of them.

junior barns 03-14-2012 12:10 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 315224)
I enjoy trying to chase those guys. I think we all can agree the 454 is not the greatest combo out there but Division 1 has a awesome collection of C cars from the LT1, LS1, Steel 396, 428 Ford. Gary has me covered by 2 tenths.....he told me that 3 days ago. Ha. Trying to make the horsepower and getting the right setup is a lot of the fun with the Corvette. I have close to 300 pounds in the car also to get to C weight.

300 pounds just to get to C weight??? Whats left in that car?

MikeFicacci 03-14-2012 01:20 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by junior barns (Post 315258)
300 pounds just to get to C weight??? Whats left in that car?

......it's made of fiberglass

junior barns 03-14-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 315273)
......it's made of fiberglass

Usually fiberglass weighs more on those old cars.

Is that a natural C car? If so move it to B. Dont know if it would be any better there with other cars or not? just a thought

junior barns 03-14-2012 03:25 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
By the way Mike, hope you find that 2 tenths. Love the Vettes

FINESPLINE 03-14-2012 03:36 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by Salty Dog (Post 315260)
Where are you noticing all of the LT1 cars for sale?

Class Forum cars for sale and Racing Junk S/SS. Some fine quality cars.

B Parker 03-14-2012 04:17 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Mike weren't you in a future c car this past weekend? LOL Barry

MikeFicacci 03-14-2012 05:16 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
It's a natural D car. Would love to run B. If you can get light enough, they should let you run whatever class you want. The car is well under 3,000 with two batteries in it and an IRS rear.

Barry, I kept my foot in it. Have to give credit for that.

FINESPLINE 03-14-2012 05:59 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty Dog (Post 315300)
I have only seen 3 in the last 60 listings on classracer cars for sale.

Check Racing Junk -----under race cars / stock-superstock

S/ST4707 03-14-2012 07:20 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Salty...Check here and racingjunk.com

B Parker 03-14-2012 07:50 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Mike you may have keep one foot in it but you had the other one dragging the ground. I love that you guys are old school stockers like myself but I would find it hard to believe that you showed the cars whole hand. Imangine having it for 10 years and working on it and spending money every year to go faster. How fast can one of those go then? I love your vet. And it runs pretty dam good. And the driver ain't to bad either. See you guys in a few months Barry

SEN 03-14-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Salty, there are three for sale on the racingjunk site. If ALL bothers you maybe I should have said several.

Kenny Wigington 03-18-2012 01:22 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Congrats to Kyle ! You did well sir, "against the odds !"

Ed Wright 03-18-2012 01:28 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
He kinda stirred up old' Sam I-can't-spell-his-last-name. LOL

PETE PEERY 03-18-2012 02:23 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
When he went thru the lights on his 3rd round for Class, engine popped and died. Kyle pushed it from the last turn off to scales by himself( his ever present crew-chief is home sick). The cam pin that drives the opti-spark snapped off. He was able to fix it the next morning with the generous help of Jimmy Hidalgo and P C Richards which he very much appreciated.

Pete

KRatcliff 03-18-2012 07:11 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Kenny,

Thank you for the kind words. My dad and I have been working on it over the off season and had high hopes. The work seems to be paying off.

Mark,

I tried to get him to post that I had a header tube break away from it's weld then go flying around the engine compartment until it snapped off the Optispark, but he told me you would call foul to that. ;)

The pin broke and the car backfired then died right at the last turn before the sand. I had to push it from there. Man I was regretting not taking the earlier turn. At least I had a lighter combo rather than that pig heavy combo that Pedigo runs. (I am sure he will have something to say about that cheap shot).

I thought with the newer and friendlier NHRA that I would have gotten their first Ironman for the longest push of a racecar, but they had their hands full with important stuff.

Ed Wright 03-18-2012 08:40 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Uh, Kyle Ironman is "the other HRA" lol

Lee Zane 03-18-2012 08:47 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
That is the biggest down side to the LT1's,, did this numerous times,, was able to change it out in less than 30 minutes. Not something I wanted to get used to doing.

KRatcliff 03-18-2012 09:03 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 316166)
Uh, Kyle Ironman is "the other HRA" lol

I know. I thought it symbolic. Lol!

joelster 03-19-2012 08:33 AM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
I only found 2 stockers and 1 SS car. There's 1 LS1 stocker too:

Here's a few for sale:

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/7/68/245...uper-Stock.jpg

http://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Supe...per-Stock.html



Gorgeous car here: Yeah I know it's SS and not Stock but too good not to post, lol.

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/0/54/242...k-Firebird.jpg

http://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Supe...-Firebird.html


http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/9/33/254...B-C-or-DSA.jpg

http://www.racingjunk.com/Stock-Supe...C-or-D-SA.html

Dan Wilson 03-19-2012 02:01 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Could they be getting a new COPO?
Dan

Bernie Cunningham 03-19-2012 03:15 PM

Re: Why all the LT-1 B, C, and D stocker for sale?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 315227)
Thanks Ken. It is very gratifying to work on these combos and get more performance out of them.

Well Kyle, ya had better work on it some more or work on lowering the average now!!!!

Might see some more for sale if this doesn't work out!!! OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
4121 Kyle Ratcliff 489 Sam Pourciau
C3 ****WINNER**** 0.039 10.379 125.53 0.008 10.512 124.84
C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -1.021 C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -0.888


Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
1364 Raymond Skipper Jr 1761 Robert Dean
E1 ****WINNER**** 0.530 10.531 124.89 0.019 10.398 127.01
B/SA Dial: 10.54 (+/-): -0.009 C/SA Dial: 10.42 (+/-): -0.022
Qualified: #43 10.531 -0.719 #7 10.443 -0.957


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