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TOM KASCH 01-20-2012 11:10 PM

Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Just sold on Barret-Jackson for $220,000 !

Doug Blackley 01-20-2012 11:13 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
The T-bolt ahead of it was pretty cool with the Mickey Thompson hemi heads was pretty cool too. Though it would've been nice to have seen more of the Hemi Dart after.

Hemi Moose 01-20-2012 11:40 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Prices on these factory hot rods are starting to creep back up again...I hope you bought something you liked when the prices were low for the past several years. ;)

Travis Miller 01-20-2012 11:40 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
The MT Thunderbolt also brought $220K.

The discussion about Mickey making Hemi heads fit on the Ford and Pontiac can be addressed this way. The 392 Hemi, the FE Ford and the Pontiac all have the same bore spacing. They also have the same head-bolt arangement using ten bolts. It was actually a fairly easy deal mounting the 392 Hemi heads on the Ford and Pontiac engines.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

bigshow2966 01-20-2012 11:59 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Is there any proof they weren't bought back by the owners?

The Cirque' De Sand is a poor tool to use to judge real car prices.

treessavoy 01-21-2012 02:18 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
As usual, since chevy is a major sponsor, them go to commercial break every time a Mopar comes to the block.

But, some things I noticed about the 5 and 50 car: Chrome bumpers, I thought they were fiberglass; rear panel showed dual exhaust cutouts....?; and front fenders had side warning lights on them......on fiberglass....? Highly suspect to me.

JimR

hookdaddy 01-21-2012 08:40 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Here's a like to a photo "back in the day" Chrome bumpers & marker lights - just sayin' http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery2...g2_itemId=2007

Nitro Joe Jackson 01-21-2012 09:43 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
i dont watch the show anymore after learning from a real good sourse that most of the totals are ran way up for tv. This show has hurt the chances of any level head pricing of muscle cars

Dan Bernay 01-21-2012 10:45 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
That BJ bigwig with the sunglasses needs a beatdown AND needs to SHUT UP!
I mute evertime he is on camera!

Paul Merolla 01-21-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 304962)
As usual, since chevy is a major sponsor, them go to commercial break every time a Mopar comes to the block.


JimR

Seriously? It must suck to go through life with that giant Mopar Chip on your shoulder. ;)

Ed Wright 01-21-2012 11:32 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 304962)
As usual, since chevy is a major sponsor, them go to commercial break every time a Mopar comes to the block.

But, some things I noticed about the 5 and 50 car: Chrome bumpers, I thought they were fiberglass; rear panel showed dual exhaust cutouts....?; and front fenders had side warning lights on them......on fiberglass....? Highly suspect to me.

JimR

Look out Jim! I just saw a black helicopter land on the grassy knoll! LOL
You really think somebody from GM specified their TV spots be run any time some Chrysler vehicle comes up? Really?? You don't think they run at pre-determined intervals?

vic guilmino 01-21-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Ed
man you don't miss anything

troublemaker427 01-21-2012 03:01 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 304962)
As usual, since chevy is a major sponsor, them go to commercial break every time a Mopar comes to the block.

But, some things I noticed about the 5 and 50 car: Chrome bumpers, I thought they were fiberglass; rear panel showed dual exhaust cutouts....?; and front fenders had side warning lights on them......on fiberglass....? Highly suspect to me.

JimR

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/livestream/

Here is the live feed so you don't have to miss anymore Hemi Cuda's and be pissed at Chevy...

Stewart Way 01-21-2012 03:46 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Jim
They all came with chrome steel bumpers and also the dual cutouts on the rear since they were all 383 cars. The side lights were likely added just because he liked them.

Hemi Moose 01-21-2012 04:31 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 304999)
You really think somebody from GM specified their TV spots be run any time some Chrysler vehicle comes up? Really?? You don't think they run at pre-determined intervals?

Sorry but yes Barrett-Jackson & their sponsors GM & Ford did actually sit down and discuss those details, in fact it has been going on for a few years now and they even talked about it themselves...I don't like it as well when they cut away, but what can you do...when Chrysler was the sponsor of Barrett-Jackson show that didn't happen, they cut away from the Chevy's & Fords, *cough*cough*, also when they make up that auction list of cars they do predetermine everything with Speed channel, ie: commercials.

.

Paul Ceasrine 01-21-2012 07:41 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bernay (Post 304989)
That BJ bigwig with the sunglasses needs a beatdown AND needs to SHUT UP!
I mute evertime he is on camera!

Dan,
Do you mean Steve Davis and his 'plastic hair'...........

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/image...aphy/steve.jpg

Ed Wright 01-21-2012 07:43 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 305061)
Sorry but yes Barrett-Jackson & their sponsors GM & Ford did actually sit down and discuss those details, in fact it has been going on for a few years now and they even talked about it themselves...I don't like it as well when they cut away, but what can you do...when Chrysler was the sponsor of Barrett-Jackson show that didn't happen, they cut away from the Chevy's & Fords, *cough*cough*, also when they make up that auction list of cars they do predetermine everything with Speed channel, ie: commercials.

.

Not buying that. Too silly to believe.

treessavoy 01-21-2012 11:31 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 305086)
Not buying that. Too silly to believe.


Buy what you want but it's a fact that they cut away when Mopars come to the block.

JimR

treessavoy 01-22-2012 12:08 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 304994)
Seriously? It must suck to go through life with that giant Mopar Chip on your shoulder. ;)


And what year is your red chevyII/camaro, little boy.

JimR

Paul Merolla 01-22-2012 02:03 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Uhh...my Camaro is a 68, but it's black. The 66 Chevy II is hopefully a week away from being red, depending on Dave's schedule. Little boy? OK. Somehow I knew you'd miss the little smiley face winking at you. That means I was giving you ****. As in a joke.

rawhide 01-22-2012 09:35 AM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 305143)
Uhh...my Camaro is a 68, but it's black. The 66 Chevy II is hopefully a week away from being red, depending on Dave's schedule. Little boy? OK. Somehow I knew you'd miss the little smiley face winking at you. That means I was giving you ****. As in a joke.

No joking allowed. We are a very sensitive thin skinned bunch of folks who fly hot at the slightest provocation.
regards, Roland

James L Miller 01-22-2012 03:51 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 304994)
Seriously? It must suck to go through life with that giant Mopar Chip on your shoulder. ;)

I can't imagine why a Mopar guy would have a chip on their shoulder? Things to ponder:

1. Chrysler brought out a 355 Hemi for Indy car back in the mid-1950s. It ran 10 MPH faster than the Offies. Outlawed before it even qualified.
2. 1965. Hemi outlawed by NASCAR. Won too dang much.
3. 1971. Hemi's too dang fast in NASCAR with the wing cars. Limit them to 305 CID when everyone else gets 430 CID.
4. 1972. Hemi basically legislated out of business in NHRA PS and NASCAR. Interestingly that was the same year that Winston started sponsoring both series. Not that I'm paranoid or anything.
5. Vipers kick but in LeMans racing. Won too much and they added weight to make them uncompetitive.
6. Dodge gets back into NASCAR after being absent for many years. The Intrepid body must have been too slick and won too much, so they added a 2" high flat blade across the roof to make them uncompetitive.

#1 Rule for Chrysler - don't win too much or they will shut you down. Chevies can win endlessly and no one cares. Chrysler used to be #3 of the Big Three. #2 tries harder, #3 gets table scraps thrown their way on occassion. We go on even against the head winds. We get used to being treated like a stepchild.

Doug Blackley 01-22-2012 05:47 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
See, those Mopar guys take everything so personal....lol.

Ed Wright 01-22-2012 06:09 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Blackley (Post 305238)
See, those Mopar guys take everything so personal....lol.

Sure do.

Randall Klein 01-22-2012 06:31 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
I'm a chevy guy, but I like most everything, but I seem to recall the mopars getting a real Corvette blackballed because it was toooo fast. SS/AH is a protected playground, fine with me....if you look hard enough each brand has some gripe

Jeff Teuton 01-22-2012 07:04 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
I ain't got no chip on my shoulder, but there have been some stuff over the many years. Sounds like a campfire discussion. But the Mopar wagon train has always be circled by the Bowtie Indians just in shear numbers. Sometime we get a gatlin gun (SS Hemi), but even it can only 'chootem' so much. (Swamp People 2010).

hemidup 01-22-2012 08:16 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James L Miller (Post 305221)
I can't imagine why a Mopar guy would have a chip on their shoulder? Things to ponder:

1. Chrysler brought out a 355 Hemi for Indy car back in the mid-1950s. It ran 10 MPH faster than the Offies. Outlawed before it even qualified.
2. 1965. Hemi outlawed by NASCAR. Won too dang much.
3. 1971. Hemi's too dang fast in NASCAR with the wing cars. Limit them to 305 CID when everyone else gets 430 CID.
4. 1972. Hemi basically legislated out of business in NHRA PS and NASCAR. Interestingly that was the same year that Winston started sponsoring both series. Not that I'm paranoid or anything.
5. Vipers kick but in LeMans racing. Won too much and they added weight to make them uncompetitive.
6. Dodge gets back into NASCAR after being absent for many years. The Intrepid body must have been too slick and won too much, so they added a 2" high flat blade across the roof to make them uncompetitive.

#1 Rule for Chrysler - don't win too much or they will shut you down. Chevies can win endlessly and no one cares. Chrysler used to be #3 of the Big Three. #2 tries harder, #3 gets table scraps thrown their way on occassion. We go on even against the head winds. We get used to being treated like a stepchild.

Nice read. Thank you.

Ed Wright 01-22-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Kinda hard to not smile. :-)

Paul Ceasrine 01-22-2012 10:20 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Didn't this phrase start the competitive nature of it all,,,

Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday

My 2 Cents,,,:)

Hemi Moose 01-22-2012 10:26 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 305291)
Kinda hard to not smile. :-)

That's okay, us Mopar folks are use to this type of stuff, it ain't gonna hurt nobody, we just come back stronger and tougher...so have your day in the sun, for now. :D

Ed Wright 01-22-2012 10:33 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 305293)
That's okay, us Mopar folks are use to this type of stuff, it ain't gonna hurt nobody, we just come back stronger and tougher...so have your day in the sun, for now. :D

Having the whole world against you must be tough. LOL

Jess Suter 01-23-2012 12:08 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
I was at the auction and looked at the car. It did have the correct VIN (BO29xxxxxx) on it but was a little suspect. Lots of replacement parts on it like the hood. OEM hood scoop only had 2 support rods. Lots of money being spent there-quite a show this year

Paul Ceasrine 01-23-2012 03:54 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
This car did hold the SS/BA NHRA National Record for a short period at the end of 1968.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...nt_3-4_Web.jpg

marfen 01-23-2012 05:34 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Looks pretty good. These cars usually lost an oem part or two for a lighter replacement. Hood scoop stays on the car better with 4 supports rather than two since they bulge at speed and try to rip the hood off the car. I think Jack Werst (correct me if I'm wrong) in an old interview talked about the hood flying off on occasion and that the car was hard on windshields-cracked when the car twisted!

Hemi Moose 01-24-2012 02:32 PM

Re: Mr 5 & 50 68 Cuda
 
Does anyone here know who bought Jack Werst's old Mr. 5 & 50 68 Hemi Barracuda... anyway here's a couple of old shots of it.
http://images17.fotki.com/v326/photo...68Cuda6-vi.jpg
http://images31.fotki.com/v1057/phot...68Cuda5-vi.jpg
http://images31.fotki.com/v1050/phot...68Cuda1-vi.jpg


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