Team Mopar Records Unofficial Fastest Pass in Pro Stock Hist
 

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- Mopar Dodge Avenger NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series Pro Stock driver Allen Johnson and his J&J Racing team unofficially recorded the fastest pass in Pro Stock history during testing on Thursday, Jan. 19, with Richie Stevens turning in a run of 6.466-seconds at 212.51 mph. The current official NHRA Pro Stock record is 6.477-seconds.

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:-) peace

Ron

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I think you should wait before you blow your horn about something that is as you put it UNOFFICAL, may be after qualifying at the winters, Numbers like this happen every year at this time from somebody.

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Let me guess they had some Wayne County type help!

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"blow your horn"

OK then

Just thought it was a news worthy item - geezee

Next time I will remember it is not actually true

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[ some wayne county type help ]..now thats funny.

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Thats fast no matter what time of the year it is

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The 60ft time backs up the ET.

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I guess you chevy guys are still pissed that they let anyone else on the track besides chevy powered cars........sorry, can't have everything.

JimR

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Mark, I can understand your bias for the Summit team, they use your headers. Guess they know the "best" and use them. Gary Hansen

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Don't for get Cagnazzi Racing Erica Enders car . Dave Connolly is testing & working on that car and is the crew cheif . Look for them to be at the front of the pack as well .

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Allan Johnson has always been fast. Lots of fast runs this time of the year. Who's fastest now is often not the fastest at Pomona. And, geez, so many of you MOPAR guys are strange. Should be more about the racers, not the name on the valve covers. Not many actual MOPAR or GM parts on those cars anyway. Mostly aftermarket. They just kinda resemble a given brand. I hear Pontiac guys the same way. Very strange. Those things are just dumb iron.

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I like Allen Johnson, but last year during testing it was the same thing from him. BIG numbers but all of a sudden when Pomona came around he was a middle of the pack guy.

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Stock/Superstock Forum?
Don't care about Pro Stock.

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The 60 ft is important but the big telling numbers are 60 to 330 and 330 to 660 numbers!

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A lot of us do.

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Ed,
Are you as interested in Pro Stock as you once where?
As they have evolved into barely recognizable cars and also lost the active manufacturer's rivalry aspect of the class, I have lost interest.
Restrict it to recognizable Camaros, Challengers and Mustangs and I'm in.

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Yes I am. From where do you think much of our new technology trickles down? Thinner rings? Large journal core cams & roller cam bearings, Homda (now BMW) rods, etc. they were doing it way before we were. I don't care what they look like, don't care if they all looked exactly alike. The technology is what interests me. I can't imagine anybody not being impressed with the power levels, and the fact that they keep increasing them within the same engine rules. I personally care nothing for the fuel cars, Alky cars, pro mods, etc. nothing but track oilers. Fast NA gasoline engines interest me. That, and I have long time friends that moved up to Pro Stock.

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X2 ed well said

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X3 ed

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It is the most competitve class in drag racing. Hard not to like it....Well, with the exception of B/SA :)

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I agree with Ed on the tech stuff, that is why I keep an eye on Comp also.

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Point very well taken. The technology aspect certainly interests me but from a purest point of view it just doesn't have the impact of Dodge versus Chevy or Ford that it once had and the personalities of some these guys today is obnoxious. Just my two cents.

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Holy azz kissing Batman !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

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As a diehard Ford fan; I am very happy with Larry Morgan's 6.498@211.46. Hopefully he will be a top half car this year.

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That's an excellent pass from a pro stock team. They've certainly achieved their goal of getting press coverage for the sponsor. But as someone mentioned earlier, big numbers this time of year are not uncommon considering the weather and track conditions. Although I have great respect for that team the the technology they are exploiting, the numbers themselves don't mean a whole lot without fuel check, scales and NHRA tech. Qualifying at Pomona will show everyone how fast they are in the real world. Personally, I'm looking for some surprises out of Mike Edwards.

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Next thing you know, somebody will be posting about Courtney Force. :rolleyes:


-Toby

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Frank, those cars are less than 10% Ford, Dodge, Chevy. The rest is aftermarket. One brand versus another doesn't interest me at all. Don't really care about that. If you run a stocker the technology may not interest you. Most SS & Comp guys care.

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Racers running stock have a lot to learn from the Pro Stock guys. A lot of the same technology applies. Some just don't realize it.

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You guys know the head off a ford and dodge will interchange except for valve covers right. All the clutches are a neutral pattern on the crank. They are high dollar Air Pumps with a sticker on it. Why do you think the heads will interchange between the ford and dodge, well it made the switch easy for Larry Morgan.

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When they go through NHRA tech, fuel, weight, and the spoiler and templant system, then run that fast I will believe it!

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I have always wondered why they go out and waste precious - valuable - testing time by running illegal just to make themselves feel good - then have to change the whole car back to legal - not sure what they learn by running hot fuel or running light - weight distribution is a big deal - different body which would not pass the template test - a wing that is applying incorrect down force

Just does not make sense to me but you guys on here probably know it all better than I do


:-) peace

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Simple, exposure for the sponsor and mental intercourse for the competition. I'm sure the body would pass tech but fuel and weight are another issue.

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Please help me, does no one know where Pro Stock came from. The very cars run today as Super Stockers were the "Pro Stocker" of the early 70's. The Dusters, Cudas. Camaros and Mustangs. Ed I agree with your comments completely. It is simply amazing how these cars can go down a track at the ETs they run with pistons, fuel and carbs. Talking with guys like Allen Johnson and how they make those things tick is like talking with Jenkins, Jake King or Hubert Platt years ago. When you look at a heads up Pro Stock race and at the stripe there is 3" different. Come on guys is there always something wrong with everything anyone does especially if it is a MOPAR. That complaining has been going on for over 40 years, I know from experience.

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OK that explains it - the sponsors are anxious to get ink from a test session - I would think the team would rather make advances to get ready to show off on ESPN at Pomona

Oh well I am not to old to learn new stuff about why the Pro Stock teams test before Pomona - and you are probably right - I am sure these numbers really got into the heads of Greg, Jason, Mike and the others


Good night

:-) peace

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That's my point about Pro Stock in a nutshell. It has strayed too far from the original concept.
Sure we can learn from Pro Stock and NASCAR for that matter as this is where the technology trickles down to even Stock Eliminator.
Who wins means very little to me.

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They learned from NASCAR. Mental Intercourse. Must be a course not offered when I went to school. But then I was in lunch line when the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria pulled up.

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Warren used to call it intellectual intercourse.

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I think it funny that so many people think that it makes sense to waste money running the car light when you won't learn squat from it and that is not going to help you going forward.

Here's some food for thought for you guys, in the threads I have read where former Pro Stock racers or current Pro Stock racers have commented in response to the Mopar team "supposedly" running the car light, both have denied that claim stating that its a waste of money and time to do so. Not to mention, nobody is running their A motors out there anyway. At best these are probably the #3 or #4 engines.

Testing is meant to do one thing, learn how to tune the car better and learn whether new experiments work or not. It just so happens that when these guys run in winter, the weather is perfect. 700DA are not common conditions for PS cars to run in and as such you don't see super duper fast runs at events during the year. And when they do get great weather, its usually not as good as winter test session weather. Englishtown is a great example. It was on the verge of being too cold and the cars were spinning on a regular basis. Only a few got a handle of the track. Not to mention, there are not near as many cars going down the track during testing. Honestly, you would probably be better off going to some 1/4mile bracket event or PBIR(w/ the fuelers) to test cause conditions are a little more realistic.

The run was impressive and it was better than the rest on those days but 4 big names were not there and Vegas will be the real test to see who gonna do well at Pomona.

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Well said - exactly what I have been saying

Why waste the valuable and precious time?

Weight distribution is very very important and even 40 lbs would make a difference in clutch and suspension set up

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Did you pay attention to LAST YEAR'S pre season testing times and Winternationals qualifying times ?
Apparently not.......... :-)