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Can't find contingency postings for Nhra or Ihra. Usually have something up by now. Am I looking in wrong place?

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This is the current list of manf. that are just dieing to get on NHRA's contingency list and have already sent all of thier money in.
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Last year NHRA didn't release the list until the 3rd week of Jan (based on date I imported the excel file) so expect something to be up soon....interesting to see this year what they do with the Class contingency program....it obviously needed tweaking after last year (right MOPAR?)

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I received a check today for a win in June of 2011.
from Magna Fuel for my pump.THANK YOU!!!

I think I'm going to start my own way for contingency payment.
It will go like this...
If I win or R/U at a National or Divisional I will claim ONLY the things I have on my car that you can easily see.
Then..
If the companies that I claim and, that you could see, I did, indeed use there product.
I WILL THEN RUN THE DECAL FOR THAT COMPANY .

That way when you see a decal on my car,(or yours)
you know they DO PAY and the stuff they are selling is good and proven!

What do ya'all think about that?
Maybe we all start the year with a naked car and send em' a statement! :)
(KINDA' RADICAL I KNOW but that's OK, Its just an Idea)

Thanks again Magna Fuel!!!!!

Glen DeMenge

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Glen,

Thats what I have done. If they do not pay or require me to buy a new (water pump, starter, etc.) item every two years, no sticker. So that being said and the fact that my car has a stick, I do not have many stickers.

Dirk

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IHRA postings are now up on IHRA.com...

Jeff Jewell

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A list of non-paying contigency sponsors would help guys determine who's decals to bother with.

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Or products to buy as well.

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I am still waiting, certainly not holding my breath, for contingency payments for 2010 and 2011. In 2011, Columbus Sports Nationals was supposed to pay regular contingency. A few paid, and many did not.

Chrysler, VIP and Moser paid

Even the payments for the new Class Performers Awards are not complete yet, and that one was supposed to be the big deal replacement for the race by race contingencies. Chrysler, VP, Comp Cams and Moser paid here too.

Apparently it all works just the same.. Some pay, and some don't pay.

A lot of decals are coming off of my car.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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Who didn't pay you David?

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How do I get on the NHRA/IHRA contingency program? Who do I contact? Not that I have money to burn, but I'm willing to pay out to the one's that use what I've built like Wertman, Teuton and Barton.

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Hi David

I have a question. The "Class Performers" program just showed a picture of the companys that were going to pay. Did Mopar pay one payment ($500), or did they pay $500 for each product they usually pay for at every race (valve covers, engine, rear end, ignition, etc). It was never very clear in the program rules. It could make a difference of a few thousand dollars.... if someone was looking to chase it (with a mopar).

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Yes I did.
But for now it WAS good!
Glen Demenge

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Glen, I'm with you on the naked car deal! That's why NHRA will never see a single contingency sticker on any of my cars accept for the Lucas Oil one, which is mandatory, which trust me is not in a flattering location! I don't believe the manufacturers owe us anything; however they do give the money to the NHRA regardless of wether the contingency is claimed or not. I would suggest that the NHRA open there books to their members, us, and average the left over contingency the following season on top of the already posted payouts for National and Divisional events. Myself, being an pessimist, knows fully well that this idea would cut into California's bottom line and then they wouldn't be able to pay themselves 300-800k, so I guess I will have to keep going for the Wally's and as a social outlet.

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There are so many non payers from Columbus, all I can say is that VP, Mopar, and Moser paid.

As for the National Class Performer, there is currently one who hasn't paid. But before I go public, I will give him and the NHRA one more chance.

But seriously, my car will only have about four decals next year. Contingency payments are dead. And the space on my car will go to those who actually support the Racers.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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I have a friend that has been in three finals this past year and hasn't yet been paid by VP, ATI, or BME.

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VP requires you to send in a proof of purchase now. I was just on the phone with them today. The gal I talked to said the best way to do it is just fax them a receipt at the beginning of each season and they will put you on "the list". ATI is the same.

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I'm sorry, I will NEVER understand why a sponsor would rather pay the contingency money to NHRA at the end of the year instead of the racers who support their companies! There is no good outcome to stiffing the racer! It's a lose/ lose situation. I have noticed a big reduction of decals on cars in the last couple of years. I myself have reduced the amount my right about half. When I won the Southeastern National Open at the end of '09 I got NO contingency payout from anybody! It's really amazing how good some of these guys are at putting you off. NHRA is no help, after all, they get the money if you don't! Jim

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I am not going to go into a commercial for over 25 different companies,but I got paid last year for a National event win and a Divisional Runner Up with NO problems at all!
MOST companies are excellent to deal with.

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Most of the time if you do what the companies want you get paid. You may feel like you have to do backflips to get it , but if it was easy everybody would be doing it.
Then there is the small percent that just won't pay and they know who they are.

On a side note IHRA list is up and they are adding to it eveyday. Hope 2012 will be better.
Chip Johnson

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Jim, companies send their checks to the NHRA (a non-profit) and get a tax receipt then write it off. If they send it to you directly they get squat unless the file it under advertising expenses or some other way and then have to justify it/prove it etc. Easier for them to send it to a non-profit and pick up their receipt for the accountant.

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Personally, I think any contingency sponsor should send the money to NHRA at the begining of the year. As people win and runner up, NHRA verifys you have the decals and product, and pay you at the same time you get paid for the win or runner up. We as racers, no longer get jurked around waiting on checks, and NHRA will still make out because not everyone will have all the product that is posted for. If the funds are posted, and someone wins, NHRA is not entitled to keeping money owed you just because a posting company can use it for a write off. They will now be able to write all of it off and NHRA keeps the excess anyways
Chuck

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that would eliminate a whole lot of smaller sponsors from even considering it.

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I understand that not everyone posts for every race. If you are a smaller company and you decide to post for a particular race, maybe payment has to be paid say a month before the race takes place. Personally, I am tired of advertising for companys year round with the hope that I might be paid if I win or runner up. Its at the point to where people need to get paid if they are playing by the rules.
Maybe everyone that gets paid should post who pays and that will be the decals that we all start running and leave the other ones off of the car. No one should have to jump through hoops to get paid.
Chuck

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Maybe the laws are different in California, but in Nebraska, any unclaimed monies (i.e., gift cards, contest winnings) are not the property of the store (or offerer) but reverts to the State as unclaimed money.

jus sayin'

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Great point Chuck

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And who's products not to use also, possibly.

Out of curiousity, has anyone attempted to negotiate contigency deals with companies off the list and outside of the reach of the sanctioning bodies? And if so, what strategies might bring success?

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do not know about Ihra but "some" companies are known to have run a "sorta contingency" program outside of Nhra---do not have a list but if ya ask around maybe on the QT ya can find out

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In the last 2 years I only had one company stiff me and that was LoKar. Why? They claim the dont make the product in a locking transmission dipstick for a Ford, so how can they pay money for it?

Other than that, no issues with anyone.

Thank you to those who do take care of the racers when it comes time to get paid.

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Sorry, I missed the question earlier...

Yes, Mopar paid $400 for each item they usually pay.

In spite of the economy, and state of the auto industry, Mopar is stand up when it comes to supporting racers.

David
The New Hemi Guy

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Thanks David....
That's a huge difference. The rules never stated which products anyone was paying for, they only stated which companies would pay.