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Ladies and gentlemen, the bomb has been dropped.

Read About It HERE

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AWESOME! That's where these cars belong and I'm sure EVERYONE of them will wish to compete in the program. Hopefully, your waiting to drop bomb #2 with media coverage announcement?
Some details on how you are going to "equalize" the N/A and super-charged vehicles!
Did you beat NHRA to the punch or were they just not interested?

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I'm pretty sure Teuton was dropping hints in other threads lately, lol...anyway nice job guys!

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Congratulations! The new cars have always been cool, having them in a class where they belong will make it a good thing for everyone, even if it is not in one of the two mainstream series. Too bad NHRA is too myopic to see it. The potential is huge. Maybe ADRL will pick up Stock and Super Stock, and let someone like Wesley Roberson run it.

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It will be interesting to see the real details of how they will race. Brands alone, heads up against other brands with factors or... Factors?

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This is great news for drag racing fans everywhere. To think, no break-out and the first to the finish line wins! This will take lots of money. Wait, we already have lots of money in our cars don't we. If my wife knew just how much money I have in my car she would have a fit. More money than when I bought my first house! WTF: Spending a lot more this month. That's another story.

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That is quite an understatement!!! Just how many can really afford to play in this heads up game and for how long?

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If you can afford to buy one, you can afford to play the heads up game.
Just wish I was in that group.

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If you really can afford the new car, as much as they are "holding", you can afford it for quite a while.

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This is great news for these super cars.It will be entertaining to say the least,congrats to everyone who helped get this off the ground,especially Mr.Teuton.

Kevin

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Jeff Lee, they are going to add weight to equalize the different brand of cars. Plus it 1/8 mile racing. Tom

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Carnac sees three to five years until, like Top Stock and Hemi Challenge, 3 to 4 heavy hitters separate from the masses, and it dies out......sounds good at first but the model does not work.

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Amen to that Alan!

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Awesome! This is exactly what it should have been from the start, NHRA will be wishing they had done this first by the end of it.

I wonder if they will follow stock eliminator rules, or super stock, or what.

Also, I wonder if ADRL only being 1/8th mile will hurt the turnout, I hope not.

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If you can get the guys to go short-track racing... thinkin' that may actually be a little bit of an equalizier against the supercharged cars that are currently set up to run hardest in the back half.

Took a couple years, but a couple of months ago, I finally convinced Beaver Bob to showcase these cars at one or more of his big shows at Beaver Springs Dragway in PA. No brainer.

Thanks to all involved for getting it done at ADRL.

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Not necessarily true

Ron

:-) peace

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I am looking forward to enjoying the "Show" at a track near me! Joe jr. will have to have a Mopar again, because that Tiger is just to big for a Mustang.

Let the spending begin!!!!!

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WHAT, line up side by side and race to the finish line. Man, what a concept. Good job Bret, you know drag racing and this should be a good racing. I think when ADRL gets to Bristol and Z-max you will, as will everyone else, realize how this concept worked for so many years. Everyone remember what you wished for.

At the PRI show ADRL was working that captive audience for three days. NHRA stood at their booth, handed out National Dragster and tried to sell memberships. Almost anywhere you went you saw them with their clip boards talking with anyone that would talk with them about their 2012 season.

Seems like someone had an idea for heads-up, all out racing to the finish line and drew 500+ race car and sold out the track every day they were there. If you raced or attended the races, you know what it was like sitting in the staging lanes and the guy standing on the box in the middle of the track, stirring up the crowd, comparing the rivalry between Ford, Chevy and Mopar. You could hear the noise from the crowd inside the car with the engine running waiting to stage. Only reason that ended was due to conficts with the originator of the concept. Even if you disliked the idea, you might want to keep your ear open because it is coming back.

Congratulation Bret, we don't have a new car to compete but we will be at Z-Max to see this work. I, like you, have been around drag racing all my life and was part of the heads up match race days and I don't think you will see the grandstands empty when these cars pull to the staging lanes. Jeff, make sure that car has the wheels high when the first race is run and represent old style Super Stock proud.

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Short Version 3250 V8 Unblown, 3450 V10 Unblown, and 3650 Blown all subject to adjustment, but any adjustment will be with a fine carving knife, not a fire axe. NHRA rules, specs, 9 in tire Stick & Auto same. There have been about 400 of these new cars sold, new ones are getting finished as time and money have permitted. And maybe some SuperCar races at different tracks. I am hoping this grows. We learned plenty from Top Stock, what to do and not do, so I am hoping for longevity, but I do know the pitfalls of Top Stock and SS/AH. Sorta like the old cars of the 60's, and maybe with a new crowd that knows more about computers than heads. Any interest jefft@southlanddodge.com 985-804-6161 cell or business 888-876-1817 leave a message with the receptionist, but tell her it is about racing. More as it unfolds.

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Heads-Up Racing? I'll pay to see that !

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They will be racing HEADS UP,but a good driver will take the stripe as little as possible to not show his hand.

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the rules seem to be somewhat like stock i guess but i haven't seen anything about possoble payouts. any thing on that yet? live action

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Combine a SS/AH HEMI Shootout with one of these shows and the stands will be full.
Can this be the beginning of the salvation for SS/STK?

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I'm assuming no races west of Denver?

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Will 1/8 mile racing REALLY show the potential of these cars????????????????????

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Has 1000' shown the real potential of TOP FUEL? Give them time.

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Thought I would look up the best 1/8mile incrementals for the different supercar combos from the 2011 US Nationals:

Drew Skillman AA/sa 2010 331 SC CJ 6.050@ 116.59 3695 lbs min wt

Bo Butner AA/sa 2010 331 SC CJ 6.037 @ 114.60 3695 lbs min wt

Evan Smith AA/sa 2008 331 SC CJ 6.019 @ 113.52 3550 lbs min wt

Don Fezell AA/s 2008 331 SC CJ 6.053 @ 116.98 3730 lbs min wt

Andy Durham AA/sa 2011 512 v10 Drag Pak 6.107 @ 112.44 3590 lbs min wt

Teutons' AA/sa 2011 512 v10 Drag Pak 6.102 @ 114.34 3590 lbs min wt

Keith Lynch A/sa 2010 345 Drag Pak 6.189 @ 108.38 3375 lbs min wt

David Barton A/sa 2009 370 Drag Pak 6.112 @ 110.42 3400 lbs min wt

Kevin Helms A/s 2010 370 Drag Pak 6.300 @ 110.24 3250 lbs min wt

Gary Richards' B/sa 2010 428 CJ 6.285 @ 108.26 3465 lbs min wt

Irvin Johns B/sa 2010 392 Drag Pak 6.342 @ 107.13 3560 lbs min wt


Any info about what the min weights were at the time of runs would be good to know!
* I have figured out the Min wts. Not positive they are correct.*

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What the hell figured I would correct the 1/8 mile ET's from the above list using their min wt at the 2011 US nats to the new Supercar weights:


1) Fezell 2008 331 SC CJ - 6.001- stick
2) Butner 2010 331 SC CJ - 6.008
3) Teutons' 2011 v10 DP - 6.011
4) Durham 2011 v10 DP - 6.016
5) Barton 2010 370 DP - 6.014
6) Skillman 2010 331 Sc CJ- 6.021
7) Smith 2008 SC CJ- 6.084
8) Lynch 2010 345 DP- 6.108
9) Johns 2010 392 DP- 6.141
10) Richards 2010 428 CJ - 6.145
11) Helms 2010 370 DP - 6.300- stick

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With the purposed weight breaks Jeff posted looks pretty fair on the surface but !! As every one knows the car that David Barton drove at Indy was at least 2 tenths faster then he showed. That would put the mopar in the 5.90 range . Ford needs some help . The 428 and 352 could not get close to the mopars and the SC mustangs would need help as well .

Jeff how about 3550 for the SC mustang and 3100 for the 428 and 3000 for the 352 just to make it fair

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I just saw a 428 Mustang go 9.57 @ B weight in fall testing, don't think the Mustangs need any help.

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6.00s @ 3700 pounds on a 9 inch tire is flat out impressive. Considering those numbers are from Indy with Indy heat in play it's certain these cars will be 5.70 or quicker next year in good air. That is mind bending performance.

ADRL should call the new class 'Pro Modified Stock'.

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does this mustang have a name or a driver's name or some other information other than i just saw a mustang i mean john force said he saw elvis even garlits has seen alien's and at time's i have seen star's.
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Here we go already. I need this and I need that ,the ratings are not fair. You got your own class now but it still aint good enough! This is gonna go down like modified eliminator or the old pounds per cube prostock classes. You think the dullards running this are gonna take the time and effort to continuously refactor these cars so its 'FAIR' ?. You got one of these new cars to begin with because it wasn't fair to your competition now you want to make it fair for you!

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My sentiments exactly, haven't even run the first race yet and people are looking for weight breaks. Hope it works out, i think the class is a great idea on ADRL's part.

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Does that mean all the slower DP cars that couldn't hang with Barton get a break too? If Barton builds a Ford, he might just be quicker than the other Fords. I think this gets back to working a combo. I would hope that they all race and then adjust as needed.

Barton pushed the Carp car to the limit instead of *****footing around with it. Maybe if some more Ford guys pushed their stuff and flogged it like he did, it would be closer. Is there anyone with a Ford willing and able to do that? Are the other DP guys willing to go after them? I think the answer will be yes to both, but time will tell. If a racer bought one of the new cars thinking they wouldn't have to beat on it to be competitive, this is clearly not the class to be in. That's ok, too. Just a choice. I know they are a ton of $$$. I don't have one either.

I think if Barton and Carp show up, they are the standard for now and something to shoot for.

I think that is pretty cool. There are plenty of good cars and racers out there within reach if they chose to work hard enough and race hard enough to try and beat him.

I really think that is what will make this class attractive to other racers and fans alike.

Racers with the new cars will duke it out and we will see some cars pushed and raced hard instead of clicking them early and jacking around. It can be a very exciting race platform for all.

I would hope that some races take place before any real changes occur with factoring. It is hard to determine what is real with all the games that were played at NHRA.

The ADRL deal may actually reveal the true potential of these cars. I think it will be a great start to highlight class racing and the new cars!

The positive press for a sportsman performance class can help us all if it is supported by other racers and fans.

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You hit the nail on the head Jim. ' if a racer bought one of these new cars thinking they wouldn't have to beat on it to be competetive' Thats exactly what they did ,go out and get a bogus combo thats is so soft they wouldn't have to put the effort into it that was already put into the traditional combos, then go beat them up as if you really did something. I cant wait till this becomes a real pissing contest and they all start complaining it cost to much

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Then it will be since I can't win I'm not spending any more money and since I can't win I'll just stay home!

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The irony of all this will be if some of the money the manufactures are spending with NHRA go to ADRL. I think that would be interesting turn of events!

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Just will not be the same at the 1000 ft. anymore. Now you can listen to them at full song !

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Bunch of cry babies......When Pro Stock came out in 1970 it wasnt fair (according to the racers) BUT they raced and came anyway. 1970 was the best heads up racing that ever happened with REAL cars, stick shifts, and most races had 30-40 cars trying to qualify. Not today....Its if I cant out run you by XXX tenths Im not going to go and stay home with my toys and whine. Saw it over and over in Top Stock.