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TOM KASCH 01-09-2012 07:46 PM

2012 Dodge Dart
 
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...174449414.html

Maybe Jeg should build 1 of these ?

Nitro Joe Jackson 01-09-2012 08:05 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
boy that car is a slap to the face of all american mopar fans and have that name plate on it

Tim Ellis 01-09-2012 08:08 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Looks like a Focus

Tod Lane 01-09-2012 08:09 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 303109)
boy that car is a slap to the face of all american mopar fans and have that name plate on it

Kinda looks like an uglier neon to me

Duster 7695 01-09-2012 08:21 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
The new car is an insult to the original Dart. My first new car was a '69 Dart Swinger 340 with a 4 speed. No way this new creation can compare.

Raul

tommy d 01-09-2012 09:12 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
UGH! Reminds me of the time Ford decided to bring back the T Bird in the 70's.

KRatcliff 01-09-2012 09:17 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Ellis (Post 303110)
Looks like a Focus

Bof us? :eek:

THE LEGEND 01-09-2012 09:29 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
I thought it looked like a Neon.LOL
Sick
Chip

art leong 01-09-2012 10:07 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
What is ugly about a Neon?
Care to run one index to index????

Phillip marvetz 01-09-2012 10:32 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 303109)
boy that car is a slap to the face of all american mopar fans and have that name plate on it

At least they didn't call it a Cuda.............

THE LEGEND 01-09-2012 11:37 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Art,
Sorry. Did'nt mean no harm. It just does'nt look much like a Dart.
Chip Johnson

Jim Wahl 01-09-2012 11:39 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Kinda reminds me of the four cylinder Mustang years. Rear end isn't bad but the front does look like a Focus! 168hp and they have the nerve to badge it an R/T. Duel one inch exhaust! Wooooohooooo! Jim

Don't piss off Artie Chip! You won't like him when he's mad! ;)


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art leong 01-10-2012 10:56 AM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
I was only kidding I know my car is one of the ugliest ducklings out there. LOL

tj310 01-10-2012 02:25 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
I like it. Looks like a Ferrari !!! Whats the factor on the turbo motor ?---Trevor

Jim Wahl 01-10-2012 03:35 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tj310 (Post 303221)
I like it. Looks like a Ferrari !!! Whats the factor on the turbo motor ?---Trevor

The "big motor" is 168hp! Wooooohooooo! Jim


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Barry Polley 01-10-2012 04:50 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM KASCH (Post 303108)
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...174449414.html

Maybe Jeg should build 1 of these ?

Tom, after looking at the new GM cars you posted I though GM missed it.... but I guess it has spread... All we need now is a new proto Pinto to arrive.

Tim Ellis 01-10-2012 05:25 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/25/2...0-mpg-highway/

Jim Wahl 01-10-2012 07:01 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
I don't understand why these manufacturers feel they need to make the new cars look as if they are cruising down the road with their mouth wide open! Jim

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Mark Ugrich 01-10-2012 07:11 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Another jelly bean on wheels!

Tod Lane 01-10-2012 08:22 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 303184)
I was only kidding I know my car is one of the ugliest ducklings out there. LOL

Its probably uglier from the back, where most get to see for a LLOOONNNGGG time :)

More than a few never get to see the front..

Hemi Moose 01-10-2012 08:40 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Meh not bad...it kinda looks like any other import on the road today, but I'd call it the new Dodge Colt not a Dart.
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Ti2...c/dartleak.jpg
http://www.carmild.com/wp-content/up...-side-view.jpg
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...8230204dac.jpg
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...f6ef236d9b.jpg
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...cf22753bec.jpg
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...30ec0a6b70.jpg

Jeff Teuton 01-10-2012 09:51 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
The Dart Drag Pak will have a 5.7 hemi, 8 3/4 aluminum rear, t/flite 904 and will be rated at 198 hp. Special 2 door for NHRA stock and Nascar.

tommy d 01-10-2012 10:01 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!:D

denbreeden 01-10-2012 10:07 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
V-10 for 2014.

Dennis Breeden
A/SA

John Dinkel 01-10-2012 11:23 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Jeff I want one with a 6.4.Will it make AA/SA?

hemidup 01-10-2012 11:49 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
If anyone can make these things go faster, It'll be Charlie Blossom and crew. ;)

Todd Boyer 01-11-2012 09:10 AM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
As owner of an original '69 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed, that car is not deserving of the name. At least they didn't call it a "Swinger" !!!! (wouldn't work in this day and age anyway).
It looks much more like a Neon - and that's not a bad thing at all Art...

KRatcliff 01-11-2012 10:17 AM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

denny harvey 01-11-2012 06:15 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
uh...i guess this lets gm off the hook for the above post for fugly new car....

Myron Piatek 01-11-2012 07:29 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Look at it this way.....the more little Dart's they build and sell, the more souped-up Hemi and V-10 cars and trucks they can build and sell!

CAFE standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpora...e_Fuel_Economy

(Sorry if you try to read it all and get a headache!)

Is the new Dart looking better now?
Personally I don't think it's too bad for an economy car.

Hemi Moose 01-11-2012 09:10 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
I heard Teuton is going to be purchasing "50 bodies-in-white" and doing the conversion just like Hurst did back in 1968...I wonder which race car fabricator he'll be using for this job...so will you be buying one of them off him when they're done. ;)

art leong 01-11-2012 09:35 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 303470)
Look at it this way.....the more little Dart's they build and sell, the more souped-up Hemi and V-10 cars and trucks they can build and sell!

CAFE standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpora...e_Fuel_Economy

(Sorry if you try to read it all and get a headache!)

Is the new Dart looking better now?
Personally I don't think it's too bad for an economy car.

The C.A.F.E. standards are one reason that you can't title and register the Drag Paks.
They don't count them if they are not for street use.

GarysZ24 01-11-2012 10:55 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 303109)
boy that car is a slap to the face of all american mopar fans and have that name plate on it

x2 Joe! Bummerville BIG TIME!!!

Just like GM had to insult the great Nova name by placing it upon a Chevy badged Corolla, now this? Why couldn't they call it some other previous Dodge's name, like the Colt (as someone else mentioned), or Shadow...anything but Dart!!! This sucks big time!!!

Scott Bechler 01-12-2012 11:11 AM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Boyer (Post 303380)
As owner of an original '69 Dart Swinger 340 4-speed, that car is not deserving of the name.

In that case, the first generation of compact Darts ('63-66) were not deserving of the name either. '63 top engine 225 - 145 gross horsepower or about 115 by today's net ratings. '64 273 - 180 gross hp. '65 273 4bbl - 235 gross hp.

Remeber "Dart" has always meant economy car. 184 net hp for the new 2.4L is pretty good for an economy car. Now if they decide to make a turbo version of the 2.4 in the future, 275-300 hp stock is a real possibility. With much more power with the "turn of a screw" as people like to tell Art.

I do hate the fact that it is a foreign chassis with the Dart name.

GarysZ24 01-12-2012 11:29 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Bechler (Post 303538)
In that case, the first generation of compact Darts ('63-66) were not deserving of the name either. '63 top engine 225 - 145 gross horsepower or about 115 by today's net ratings. '64 273 - 180 gross hp. '65 273 4bbl - 235 gross hp.

Remeber "Dart" has always meant economy car. 184 net hp for the new 2.4L is pretty good for an economy car. Now if they decide to make a turbo version of the 2.4 in the future, 275-300 hp stock is a real possibility. With much more power with the "turn of a screw" as people like to tell Art.

I do hate the fact that it is a foreign chassis with the Dart name.

The original Darts were much more deserving of the name, because they were compact versions of the much beloved Coronets (as well as ALL-AMERICAN!!!), but your last sentence touched on why I also hate this...a great name for a great (AMERICAN) compact car, now adorns an import derived car! :(

I'm glad that at least Mustang loyalist protested (in large numbers), Fords warped minded intention of placing that beloved name on what eventually became the Probe! I wish Nova owners would've done the same thing.... :(

gonzo1066 01-13-2012 12:54 AM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Is the new Dart any worse than ANY of the many Cobalts?? Talk about Fugly cars IMHO

GarysZ24 01-13-2012 10:33 PM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo1066 (Post 303664)
Is the new Dart any worse than ANY of the many Cobalts?? Talk about Fugly cars IMHO

No it's not, but at least the name of a great American car doesn't adorn it. I mean, Chevrolet could've called the Cobalt (egads), a Chevelle! However, they didn't THANK GOD!!! Instead they did what I wish Dodge would've done, and created a new name for a totally different car (or brought back the Colt or Shadow names), instead of insulting the name of a great pony car from the muscle car era. :(

Chevrolet, don't get any warped minded ideas about tarnishing the great Chevelle name unless you're going to do what Dodge did with their Charger, or Ford with their Taurus models!!!

Todd Boyer 01-16-2012 08:48 AM

Re: 2012 Dodge Dart
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Bechler (Post 303538)
In that case, the first generation of compact Darts ('63-66) were not deserving of the name either. '63 top engine 225 - 145 gross horsepower or about 115 by today's net ratings. '64 273 - 180 gross hp. '65 273 4bbl - 235 gross hp.

Remeber "Dart" has always meant economy car. 184 net hp for the new 2.4L is pretty good for an economy car. Now if they decide to make a turbo version of the 2.4 in the future, 275-300 hp stock is a real possibility. With much more power with the "turn of a screw" as people like to tell Art.

I do hate the fact that it is a foreign chassis with the Dart name.

At least the early '60s Darts were cool (in their own way - Exner cool ???) and didn't look like every other economy car on the road. They shoulda called this new thing something other than Dart.


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