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Maverick 11-22-2011 01:39 PM

window net certification
 
Does anyone know of a company that re certifies window nets spec 27.1? Going to have to get a new one made that has the date on the SFI tag, and trying to think ahead in two more years of just getting it re certified, instead of purchasing another net. Looks like I will be purchasing a window net every two years, since the rule has been updated. Would like to see in the future of what other items will need to have the date, and the sfi tag. :cool:

Tom Goldman 11-22-2011 06:29 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I did not see any change regarding ribbin window nets other than the SFI 27.1 requirement .
The cert on ribbin type nets previously did not expire, ONLY the mesh type net needed to be recerted every 2 years.
I did not see any change to this in the new rules.

Mark Markow 11-22-2011 07:28 PM

Re: window net certification
 
page 60 of the amendments shows 27-1 nets now expire every 2 years. they crossed out the mesh section , so i guess that means all nets .

sstSteveM 11-22-2011 08:26 PM

Re: window net certification
 
from no exp to a 2 year exp? come on....

-steve

Tom Goldman 11-23-2011 12:10 AM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Markow (Post 294955)
page 60 of the amendments shows 27-1 nets now expire every 2 years. they crossed out the mesh section , so i guess that means all nets .

Thanks Mark, I missed the cross out.
Guess I was getting a little bleary eyed after reading all those pages.
I miss the little rule books.
Still a paper & print guy.

Bob Verwold 11-23-2011 12:36 AM

Re: window net certification
 
If we now have the ribbon net with no exp date on it, do we need to get a new one with the exp date on it ?

Like Tom said, I miss the little rule books !!!!

SST3428 11-23-2011 04:25 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I would say yes.
Is Stroud still in business?

Mark Markow 11-23-2011 06:06 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SST3428 (Post 295122)
I would say yes.
Is Stroud still in business?

yes stroud is now being run by bob again , the original owner. i have gotten a few net recently, and it seems things are back in order. it was prettry bad for a while.

kenny v 11-24-2011 12:28 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Ok I have to ask, what the hell can happen to a window net?

chester 11-24-2011 06:25 PM

Re: window net certification
 
tom, can you find out if we will need a net for next season, i know mine is 5 years old now, if we need them for next year i will have to get moving as mine is custom for my car, also i,ll see if earl will front me some money, have a good winter , see you in the spring. chuck rothermel

Tom Goldman 11-25-2011 09:48 AM

Re: window net certification
 
Chuck, I've got one in the shop now that needs a custom one , so I'm going to try Stroud on Monday.
They did the last custom one for me earlier this year ,and it fit perfectly.
I think both you and Earl should front ME some money!!

SST3428 11-25-2011 04:17 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I need a little help.
My Stroud is labeled 37.1. I looked twice to make sure. The rulebook calls for a 27.1.
I have a funny car cage and the normal sized 18x24 is not going to work.
Quarter max sells a 27.5. Are these legal or not?
Thanks in advance.

chester 11-25-2011 08:16 PM

Re: window net certification
 
tom, everybody knows you got the cash, but really i need to know if nhra will be enforcing the 2yr. rule so does everyone with a door car, any way to find out? i will send mine back to stroud next week, thanks for help, chuck

chester 11-26-2011 06:03 PM

Re: window net certification
 
tom, just got a email from d1 teck rick cambell, as of 1/12 all cars with a window net must be sfi with a date, good for 2 years. guess i'll get stroud on it monday am. chuck

Bob Verwold 11-26-2011 07:35 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Just wondering, is NHRA going to improve their tracks every two years ??

Or how about an increase in pay-outs at National & Divisional races every two years ??

Tom Goldman 11-26-2011 08:04 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chester (Post 295523)
tom, just got a email from d1 teck rick cambell, as of 1/12 all cars with a window net must be sfi with a date, good for 2 years. guess i'll get stroud on it monday am. chuck

Thanks Chuck.
I'll bet theres gonna be at least a 4-5 week backlog getting custom ones done.
And I've got 3 cars that need them !

jmcarter 11-26-2011 08:18 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Verwold (Post 295534)
Just wondering, is NHRA going to improve their tracks every two years ??

Or how about an increase in pay-outs at National & Divisional races every two years ??

Good one! You haven't seen 2012 entry fees yet, just wait for more enhancements that seem to roll out every year.

gnicholson 11-27-2011 01:11 PM

Re: window net certification
 
diesel fuel 4 bucks a gallon, new rules every year resulting in more money spent to comply, higher entry fees,every thing else higher, my employer wants to pay me less. why do i do this again?:mad:

KEVIN T 11-27-2011 01:50 PM

Re: window net certification
 
OK, I currently have a ribbon style and since I have to purchase a new one. Is there an advantage to using the mesh -vs- ribbon style? Are the mesh ones safer or just easier to look through and cosmeticly appealing?

Thanks,
Kevin Tiedemann
S/ST 145T

Stephen & Horace Johnson 11-27-2011 03:01 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 295536)
Good one! You haven't seen 2012 entry fees yet, just wait for more enhancements that seem to roll out every year.

goin up again????:mad:

jmcarter 11-27-2011 04:18 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson (Post 295626)
goin up again????:mad:

Speculation on my part only, sure hope not but if they nick us for just a window net then I'd say we got lucky compared to past years. I can't handle too much more enhancement.

C and W Racing 11-28-2011 09:09 AM

Re: window net certification
 
When are we as racers going to stand together like the stockers and super stockers did years ago about the muffler deal and let NHRA know enough is enough. In the grand scheme of things, window nets aren't expensive, but it is BS that now we need to replace them. What could possibly be the reason for that other than the manufactures got together and greased someone's palm. The economy is tough so lets get this rule passed and boom, look at all the sales that are going to be pouring in if these people want to race. Sadly, I know the answer, We NEVER will.
Chuck

Chuck Westcott 11-28-2011 11:14 AM

Re: window net certification
 
Chuck,
I share your and support your issues with NHRA and I read the update on NHRA, Does this mean that if you currently have a 27.1 Ribbon Net that it needs a re-cert every 2 years beginning Jan 2012?

C and W Racing 11-28-2011 01:00 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Westcott (Post 295788)
Chuck,
I share your and support your issues with NHRA and I read the update on NHRA, Does this mean that if you currently have a 27.1 Ribbon Net that it needs a re-cert every 2 years beginning Jan 2012?

Chuck, from everything I am seeing and hearing, Yes
Chuck

Carl Juliano 11-28-2011 03:48 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I contacted both Stroud and M&R, existing nets cannot be recertified, they must be replaced. I'm sending mine back so they can duplicate it. I would feel alot better about the belts and nets if it was 5 yrs. 2 is ridiculous!

buzzinhalfdozen 11-28-2011 05:50 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I would be very interested in seeing the test data they have to support their 2 year use requirement. As with most things that need servicing or replacing typically they are subjected to varying types of testing to determine their service life. I've long believed that for a door car the certs. should last 5 years, the open cockpit cars allow UV, and weather in general to effect the belts. Don't want to upset the guys with open cars just stating my beliefs. Joe

Chuck Westcott 11-28-2011 05:59 PM

Re: window net certification
 
Next they will ask us to re-cert our Balancers !

SST3428 11-28-2011 07:23 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I got an e-mail that says since it's a custom net it will be $80 to recert.. I think it was that new.
Here's the e-mail.

<FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The lead time to have window nets recertified is about a week and the cost is $80.00 as you said it was a custom net. Our nets leave here with a 27.1 SFI rating on them.

RacingRicki 11-28-2011 11:49 PM

Re: window net certification
 
I have been using a mesh net so the two year deal doesn't really affect me much. When I switched to a mesh net I used a company called Team Tech Motorsports. They had a good price and fast turn around. If the other shops are busy you might give Team Tech a try. When I ordered mine, I think I was talking to the woman who was actually going to make the net. It fit perfectly.


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