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Bruce Fulper 11-10-2011 01:02 AM

Phil Montieth affirmation
 
It's a strange world. Especially when "older" people you know surprisingly, without good reason, decide to lie about someone else. Most of us know the small minded folks among us, but being attacked by the a couple of the people who previously attacked me was shocking. To you I share that your claim to be Phil's "long time friend," doesn't add up. Phil was shocked and saddened too. You put words in his mouth he never said. I've always had a good relationship with Phil and couldn't believe for a minute he would act as some of you claimed. I went to Pomona today to confirm what I already knew.

Thanks to the internet, which is nothing more than the worlds new bathroom wall, it's near impossible to defend yourself. After talking with Phil today at Pomona, I now offer up your bowl of ignorance to choke on.

http://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2011Finals.mp4

TRANSCRIPT:

From Phil: "No, this is all settled already. There's no problem there. I've been completely paid up for the Hatari car. So please, ignore the notes on the internet."

END.

If your ignorance is overwhelming, and you again decide to say something stupid here, let me invite you to, not. It appears you live in Peyton Place, but I live on the starting line. Ever since "No horsepower Pete McCarthy" made a fool of himself by attacking me, every normal racer knows - I go to the track, let the car do the talking, and expect NHRA to hold me accountable.

For you? There is still a chance you can mature.

Joe Santangelo 11-10-2011 10:12 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
I suggest you avoid that pit area the rest of the weekend.

Another Friendly Racer 11-10-2011 10:46 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Ok since this is posted publicly on the internet and our newly crowned world champ is suggesting someone avoid a pit area, I'll ask. Whats the deal with this post?

Floyd Staggs 11-10-2011 11:01 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Bruce, I thought this went away a long time ago.

HR9121 11-10-2011 11:41 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
I don't know what's going on but that was one weird video I got the feeling he was holding a gun on him to make him say what he wanted him to.

Chad Rhodes 11-10-2011 12:46 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
What the hell is this all about?

joe176 11-10-2011 01:04 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chad rhodes (Post 292725)
what the hell is this all about?

x2

Jeff Lee 11-10-2011 01:32 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 292715)
I don't know what's going on but that was one weird video I got the feeling he was holding a gun on him to make him say what he wanted him to.

x2

7423 11-10-2011 01:56 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Such drama..........
Who said there is no entertainment in drag racing??

goinbroke2 11-10-2011 02:08 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer (Post 292700)
Ok since this is posted publicly on the internet and our newly crowned world champ is suggesting someone avoid a pit area, I'll ask. Whats the deal with this post?

Simple, you can say "he said, she said" on the internet and cause a lot of fighting and bickering. No matter how you try to defend it, it's just another "line on the bathroom wall".

So, for proof or "word from the horses mouth" Bruce went directly to Phil and Phil was nice enough to say in a video what Bruce could claim but would not be believed.

In other words, you said something, I proved you wrong with the words from the guy.

Pretty sad Bruce had to go to these extremes, but I think he was brilliant for doing it and it settled this once and for all.

Chad Rhodes 11-10-2011 02:48 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 292743)
Simple, you can say "he said, she said" on the internet and cause a lot of fighting and bickering. No matter how you try to defend it, it's just another "line on the bathroom wall".

So, for proof or "word from the horses mouth" Bruce went directly to Phil and Phil was nice enough to say in a video what Bruce could claim but would not be believed.

In other words, you said something, I proved you wrong with the words from the guy.

Pretty sad Bruce had to go to these extremes, but I think he was brilliant for doing it and it settled this once and for all.

Settling what?

Philip Saran 11-10-2011 03:00 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
It's back a number of years, but Bruce bought a Camaro stocker
from the other guy, had a towing accident on the way home, massive
damage to the car and physical damage to himself.

It took him along time to pay back the money still owed on the car.

Jim Wahl 11-10-2011 03:16 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
I would like to say first, I know the whole sorted story Bruce. Second, I never doubted you from the beginning! This deal has obviously taken a horrible mental toll on you and that causes me to be upset also. Some people can be nasty scumbags. I commend you for posting the video of Mr. Montieth who's word from what I have heard is impeccable. If he says "case closed" then it's CASE CLOSED! I have only spoken to Phil twice that I can think of but he seems perfectly normal in this video. Mr HR9121 you have no idea what you are talking about. I will never be ashamed to say Bruce Fulper is my friend! Jim

Rock On Bruce!!!


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HR9121 11-10-2011 03:35 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 292760)
I would like to say first, I know the whole sorted story Bruce. Second, I never doubted you from the beginning! This deal has obviously taken a horrible mental toll on you and that causes me to be upset also. Some people can be nasty scumbags. I commend you for posting the video of Mr. Montieth who's word from what I have heard is impeccable. If he says "case closed" then it's CASE CLOSED! I have only spoken to Phil twice that I can think of but he seems perfectly normal in this video. Mr HR9121 you have no idea what you are talking about. I will never be ashamed to say Bruce Fulper is my friend! Jim

Rock On Bruce!!!


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I don't know Phil and don't know you Mr. Jim Wahl but I know if you google Bruce you come up with a bunch of horse manure. Several people have been screwed by this man and something don't smell right here either. I was just making a rather candid remark as to how Phil was perceived to me in the video that's it and someone else shared my observation as well.Good day you sir.

Ed Wright 11-10-2011 03:42 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
I don't know anything about this deal, but I met Phil at Indy in the tear down area. That is how he talked. He also seems like a perfect gentleman.

He certainly doesn't look his age either :-)

Jim Wahl 11-10-2011 04:06 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 292762)
I don't know Phil and don't know you Mr. Jim Wahl but I know if you google Bruce you come up with a bunch of horse manure. Several people have been screwed by this man and something don't smell right here either. I was just making a rather candid remark as to how Phil was perceived to me in the video that's it and someone else shared my observation as well.Good day you sir.

James (HR9121), Do you know Mr. Fulper? Do you know Mr. Montieth? Don't get your panties all in a wad. My point here in saying you don't know what you are talking about was that (1.) You do not know the facts of the situation (2.) I could start right now to smear you and your business on this forum and the internet and within one week you would suffer unrepairable damage. Only you and I and a slim few of your friends would know the truth. To the rest of the internet crowd you would be a lying, stealing, rip off artist! After reading your post, I can see you are not someone who knows the facts of the situation so I can only surmise you are one of the internet crowd. I would ask that you accept Mr. Montieth's statement and move on. Nothing more to see here. Good day to you also sir! Jim

stefan callender 11-10-2011 04:19 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 292774)
James (HR9121), Do you know Mr. Fulper? Do you know Mr. Montieth? Don't get your panties all in a wad. My point here in saying you don't know what you are talking about was that (1.) You do not know the facts of the situation (2.) I could start right now to smear you and your business on this forum and the internet and within one week you would suffer unrepairable damage. Only you and I and a slim few of your friends would know the truth. To the rest of the internet crowd you would be a lying, stealing, rip off artist! After reading your post, I can see you are not someone who knows the facts of the situation so I can only surmise you are one of the internet crowd. I would ask that you accept Mr. Montieth's statement and move on. Nothing more to see here. Good day to you also sir! Jim

Just remember, Hatari means Danger .............

Floyd Staggs 11-10-2011 04:24 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Well put, Jim. I know Bruce quite well but I only know of Mr. Montieth and I have heard he's a fine gentleman. Sometimes things can get totally out of hand with a bunch of key board racers passing stories. If you want any examples, go to yellow bullet.
The only thing I can say bad about Bruce is he fancies himself a guitar player. Well, the juries still out on that one. Just kidding, Bruce, LOL.

Superfan1 11-10-2011 04:58 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
I know Phil Monteith and have known him since the 1970s; as has been stated more than once, above all else, Phil Monteith is a gentleman. That should tell anyone all they need to know about the man.

HR9121 11-10-2011 05:23 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
You're right Jim if I would have put one of them "lol" things behind my first post to let everyone know I was just kidding I suppose you wouldn't have got all stirred up. I just thought it was a very curious video that's all and I'm sure all the stuff I read about him is just a product of the times. Like you said a dissatisfied customer or two can run a smear campaign practically over night on the internet.

Jack McCarthy 11-11-2011 10:36 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
in the words of the late great paul harvey... "and now you know the rest of the story"

glad to see bruce back at a dragstrip and on the forum.
> rock and roll !

jack mccarthy

Phillip Monteith 11-15-2011 08:30 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Bruce Fulper, I resent the use of your video taping of me and posting it on the internet without my permission. I am still owed a balance on the '82 Firebird I sold you which I am willing to forgive, but I feel manipulated and must recant the statements made on the videotape.

Phillip Monteith

Steve Williams 11-15-2011 08:48 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip Monteith (Post 293727)
Bruce Fulper, I resent the use of your video taping of me and posting it on the internet without my permission. I am still owed a balance on the '82 Firebird I sold you which I am willing to forgive, but I feel manipulated and must recant the statements made on the videotape.

Phillip Monteith


Oh my! Say it ain't so.............Say it ain't so.............Somebody got some splaining to do.............Bruce?

tommy d 11-15-2011 09:10 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Jeff Lee 11-15-2011 09:25 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Key word in the video was "settled". As in all credit collection accounts, you have "settled for mount due" or "settled for less than the amount due". One method of settlement indicates the creditor received what was due, the other method of settlement indicates the creditor took what he could get and called it quits.
Maybe a lesson learned is let sleeping dogs lay.

Jim Wahl 11-15-2011 09:59 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip Monteith (Post 293727)
Bruce Fulper, I resent the use of your video taping of me and posting it on the internet without my permission. I am still owed a balance on the '82 Firebird I sold you which I am willing to forgive, but I feel manipulated and must recant the statements made on the videotape.

Phillip Monteith

To quote Mr. Monteith: "I am completely paid up on the Hatari car"
Which is it? Does Bruce owe you money or not? If he does why did you go on camera and say he did not? If he doesn't why did you think he was filming you? This makes no sense.

Or possibly this poster is NOT Phil Monteith! Jim


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danny waters sr 11-15-2011 10:01 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 293750)
To quote Mr. Monteith: "I am completely paid up on the Hatari car"
Which is it? Does Bruce owe you money or not? If he does why did you go on camera and say he did not? If he doesn't why did you think he was filming you? This makes no sense.

Or possibly this poster is NOT Phil Monteith! Jim


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Joined March 2005 and 1 post ........Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....

SSDA Hemi 11-15-2011 10:02 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 293750)

Or possibly this poster is NOT Phil Monteith! Jim


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Sorry for any disrespect to Phil.
I thought this thread was a big joke.
I stand corrected...

Dennis P Chapman 11-15-2011 10:18 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
[QUOTE=danny waters sr;293751]Joined March 2005 and 1 post ........Hmmmmmmmmmmm.....[/QUOTe

At the bottom it show he is a new member today. But on the post Danny is right at 2005.

Ed Wright 11-15-2011 10:29 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
You think somebody joined under his name, in 2005? Having not posted before is not so strange. Some people are more shy than others. Was the '82 car named Hatari also?

Ken Miele 11-15-2011 10:34 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Jim, and to anyone else who thinks it is not Phil. I can assure you that it is Phillip Montieth and it is no joke.

Danny, your wrong in your assumption. Many members do not post that have been registered for years. In Phil’s case I had to reactivate his membership.

Man you guys are unbelievable. If you had questions about a member, a email to me would clear up your conspiracy theories.

1legjerry 11-15-2011 10:53 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
This is some funny stuff...........

Jim Wahl 11-15-2011 10:55 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Yo Ken, I thought about contacting you but didn't think you wanted to get involved. So if it true Phil did post that, my questions to him still stand. At this moment it shows he is watching this thread. Jim


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HR9121 11-15-2011 11:07 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 293764)
Yo Ken, I thought about contacting you but didn't think you wanted to get involved. So if it true Phil did post that, my questions to him still stand. At this moment it shows he is watching this thread. Jim


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Jim I told you something smelled funny.Lol. Just kidding around with you now so don't come blazing both guns at me.

stefan callender 11-15-2011 11:35 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Hey, didnt I tell you Hatari means Danger????

Bernie Cunningham 11-15-2011 11:59 PM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
WOW,
I've got dirty laundry to do myself, but it sure has'nt been sitting around this long ???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce, where's that new car you were having built ???

Bruce Fulper 11-16-2011 03:40 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation - now a contradiction.
 
How fun!! Bathroom wall has grown all of the way to Bernie Cunningham's house. Wow. Gives a new meaning to sad "little" people eh? Dish it out, hold out your dish. Here's your sign.

You poor people - Something very critical needs pointed out to you - here's what you've done by trying so hard to create a lie. And it is a lie.

Not only do you see and hear Phil telling you the truth, but now someone supporting the lie has presented you with a contradiction. (Look it up Bernie.)

Simply ask yourself and contemplate the undeniable wonderful truth. (For me.)
"Is it what you see and hear on the video - or a questionable post?"

I will stand behind my friend Phil Montieth's honor, and, also tell you what Phil told me Wednesday, which by the way he'll tell you too. He never goes on computers. He's old school and doesn't bother with them. That's why he didn't know about his so called "friends" lying about O-U-R deal on this site. What Phil tells me I believe. So how is it that a guy that never goes on computers suddenly gets "reinstated" and decides not to tell the truth? Guess you'll need to ask him. (Certainly don't ask his "friends.")

So, boob's, you have a double loss with your contradiction. (That's x2 for some of you.)

Do you want to tell Phil he's not telling the truth? (Remember, you have two choices now)

Your game just blew up in your face.

I will meet any one of you - with Phil in attendance - and you will have no choice but to:

Implicate Phil as not telling the truth about what he said on tape? Or not telling the truth in this (??) post? (A contradiction you see.)

No matter what happens here, Mr moderator, and let this be known, I don't know you, I have never met you, you do not know me, but you have implicated yourself by first allowing the truth, and now this "post." You cannot have it both ways. I own a title that NO respectful drag racer would have given up until the deal is done. Right? Would you? Hell no. Say, come to think of it ,you actually have more than one contradiction to deal with, but then, that never stopped ill intentions.

For me this is a non issue now. I won. But I'm sure the jealous haters can't wait for something new on TV. That computer screen is one hell of a shield eh? BTW: All of you that are running my 428, you're welcome. Not that any of you have ever thanked me. Not a single one. "Drag racers are a big loving family" so says many. Just not on this site huh?

BTW: Thank you to the people who know better, and have spoken on my behalf. I know who my real friends are.

I will no longer address this subject until Phil is in my/our presence. QED

SSDA Hemi 11-16-2011 07:22 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Santangelo (Post 292695)
I suggest you avoid that pit area the rest of the weekend.

I thought this thread was a big joke but I forgot about this post. Nothing funny here.
Seems no one here is hiding behind screeen names, Ken confirmed that also…

Bruce, I don't know you, but I think you've gone too far already. let it go…

I don't know why Ken didn't lock or delete this thread for out of respect for Phil

danny waters sr 11-16-2011 08:09 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 293757)
Jim, and to anyone else who thinks it is not Phil. I can assure you that it is Phillip Montieth and it is no joke.

Danny, your wrong in your assumption. Many members do not post that have been registered for years. In Phil’s case I had to reactivate his membership.

Man you guys are unbelievable. If you had questions about a member, a email to me would clear up your conspiracy theories.

oops ! my bad, I appolgize. No more comments from me on this post , just gonna read.

HR9121 11-16-2011 08:37 AM

Re: Phil Montieth affirmation
 
Funny thing about "America's new bathroom wall" is that most people didn't have a clue about what was going on here until Mr Fulper posted the video on the wall to start with. Just seems curious to me that someone would go through such length to defend himself to so many people that didn't have a clue as to what the story was to start with.


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