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Phillip marvetz 09-14-2011 06:15 PM

M2000 helmets R I P
 
I was informed last Saturday that my perfect condition M2000 helmet will expire at the end of the season. Any suggestions on what to get next?
One racer suggested this, http://www.helmetcity.com/page/HC/CTGY/FS-3-solid.

Jim Wahl 09-14-2011 07:42 PM

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I will impart to you what my dad said when I asked him what kind of helmet I should buy after I got my first motorcycle. He said....... "how much is your head worth?". Nuff said? Jim


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MikeFicacci 09-14-2011 07:49 PM

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Simpson was selling S2005's at Indy for $100. That would get you another five years if they are still doing that at National Events. Didn't seem like that bad of a deal.

The Hawk 09-14-2011 08:18 PM

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I think the 05`s are only good for a couple more years. I`m I correct?

jmcarter 09-14-2011 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 282777)
I think the 05`s are only good for a couple more years. I`m I correct?

Snell 2005's are good till 1/1/2017.

Run to Rund 09-14-2011 09:57 PM

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M = motorcycle helmets are allowed in some classes, but SA are much better, with multiple impact resistance, and flame retardant interior and strap. You might want to check out the Snell website.

Phillip marvetz 09-15-2011 01:25 AM

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Can we buy a M2010 or 2015 yet?

Dinsdale 09-15-2011 01:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 282758)
I was informed last Saturday that my perfect condition M2000 helmet will expire at the end of the season. Any suggestions on what to get next?
One racer suggested this, http://www.helmetcity.com/page/HC/CTGY/FS-3-solid.

Well, isn't that special! Looks like I'll need to replace my perfectly good and hardly used M2000 as well. Got new belts last week and my clutch can that hasn't even got a scratch in the factory paint will be rendered usless in a few months also. Of course, if my car catches fire (from another thread) I can count on track safety equipment to save my life. It's certainly comforting that someone is looking out for my well being.

JP 09-15-2011 01:47 AM

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The SNELL 2010 helmets have been available for a year. (2015 helmets are not available)
The M helmets have nothing to do in Auto racing, buy the SA helmets, they are built for your sport.

Some years ago I did a test with a ECE helmet with similar interior as a SNELL M helmet. It took 2 seconds for the interior to catch fire. Within 10 seconds was it totaly destroyed... In S/SS are you mandated to use driving clothes that protects from second degree burns for about 10 seconds, but still allowed to use a helmet that in 2 seconds starts to burn and melt in your face...

Picture of helmet after the test: http://www.flickr.com/photos/janphersson/5386601383/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 282837)
Can we buy a M2010 or 2015 yet?


Dustin Ward 09-15-2011 02:15 AM

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Spend a couple extra bucks on a SA2010 helmet, that way its legal regardless of class until 2022.

THE LEGEND 09-15-2011 07:15 AM

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Buy whatever pays contingency. You may never get a chance to claim it but at least you have supported the companies supporting the sport.
Chip Johnson

Jim Wahl 09-15-2011 10:46 AM

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Hey guys it's your head! What's it worth? You should only buy SA Snell rated helmets! As a former Paramedic I have seen many cheap helmets crack, split or completely come apart and kill the wearer! Isn't it worth and extra $100 or so? Ask Ken Etter if he's glad he had a good helmet! Jim

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Rollins_2241 09-15-2011 12:13 PM

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I just got an SA2010 helmet from G-Force for around $260. Fire sucks. Fire melting your helmet to your face gives new meaning to "suck". After the year I've had there was no question for me.

FINESPLINE 09-15-2011 04:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 282758)
I was informed last Saturday that my perfect condition M2000 helmet will expire at the end of the season. Any suggestions on what to get next?
One racer suggested this, http://www.helmetcity.com/page/HC/CTGY/FS-3-solid.

A perfect condition helmut means that you never needed it. That is ALL GOOD !

The Hawk 09-15-2011 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 282778)
Snell 2005's are good till 1/1/2017.

Thanks. Good to know.

Don Fardie 09-15-2011 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 282878)
Hey guys it's your head! What's it worth?
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I asked my wife if she wanted to chip in for a new helmet because mine is a M2000 and showed her your statement.............she asked if I had change for a $5

Jim Wahl 09-15-2011 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Fardie (Post 282985)
I asked my wife if she wanted to chip in for a new helmet because mine is a M2000 and showed her your statement.............she asked if I had change for a $5

Oh man Don! I just spit Pepsi out of my nose!!! Jim:eek:

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Phillip marvetz 09-15-2011 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 282878)
Hey guys it's your head! What's it worth? You should only buy SA Snell rated helmets! As a former Paramedic I have seen many cheap helmets crack, split or completely come apart and kill the wearer! Isn't it worth and extra $100 or so? Ask Ken Etter if he's glad he had a good helmet! Jim

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Ken's helmet was pretty useless when the steering column went up under his chin guard, Just sayin.
The tracks I run at have lot's of shutdown area even for a 128 mph car and if it's on fire I have other thing's to worry about. I will be looking for M2010 though.

Leroy Duran 7118 09-15-2011 11:31 PM

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are the SA2000s done after this year as well?

Ed Fernandez 09-16-2011 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leroy Duran 7118 (Post 283021)
are the SA2000s done after this year as well?

Yes they are.

james schaechter 09-16-2011 05:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 283020)
Ken's helmet was pretty useless when the steering column went up under his chin guard, Just sayin.
The tracks I run at have lot's of shutdown area even for a 128 mph car and if it's on fire I have other thing's to worry about. I will be looking for M2010 though.

I think getting the best quality helmet that you can afford is key to reducing risk in the case of an unplanned event. The problem is that you don't know how bad it will be or when it will occur. If you can't afford a good helmet, skip one race and that is enough money to easily purchase a nice one. Yes even a SA2010.

There are many many good choices, I would pick the one you like and then go to your favorite seller. I researched a new one last winter and decided to get a simpson superbandit sa2010. I then went to my favorite place for speed equipment. ( they support our Heartland series hint hint) I asked him, he got me the helmet I wanted at a discount too.

If your goal is to get the minimum allowable helmet and keep it as long as NHRA will allow, maybe you should rethink your approach. Even slower stockers are going pretty fast. It doesn't seem that fast until something bad happens.

I remember being at Bowling Green in I think 2001. A stocker had the transmission lock up or hit reverse in the shut down and lock up the rear tires. It turned 90 degrees in front of the car in the other lane. The car was going around 115. I saw it cart wheel on the guardrail and end up upside down filled with gasoline. We had a hard time getting him out of the car and the driver definately wanted out.

The point is, don't skimp. I buy a new helmet every 2-3 years. It becomes part of my racing budget. I am not rich, and don't throw money away, but I do spend some money on a helmet and my other safety equipment. It is not that you have other stuff to worry about when you crash. It is that you want to eliminate or reduce risk so that if you do crash, you are less likely to be crippled or dead. I wondered about the SA2010 rating for years. I was told about the potential for a flash fire whether it be from fuel, oil or electrical etc. It doesn't take much to start a fire. It just seemed that it was a relatively easy thing to upgrade to.

When it costs a few hundred bucks in fuel just to get to a race, it seems silly to skimp on a helmet. If you spend $400 on one and keep it 4 years, that is only $100 per year of your racing budget. Just my opinion.

danny waters sr 09-16-2011 07:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 283037)
I think getting the best quality helmet that you can afford is key to reducing risk in the case of an unplanned event. The problem is that you don't know how bad it will be or when it will occur. If you can't afford a good helmet, skip one race and that is enough money to easily purchase a nice one. Yes even a SA2010.

There are many many good choices, I would pick the one you like and then go to your favorite seller. I researched a new one last winter and decided to get a simpson superbandit sa2010. I then went to my favorite place for speed equipment. ( they support our Heartland series hint hint) I asked him, he got me the helmet I wanted at a discount too.

If your goal is to get the minimum allowable helmet and keep it as long as NHRA will allow, maybe you should rethink your approach. Even slower stockers are going pretty fast. It doesn't seem that fast until something bad happens.

I remember being at Bowling Green in I think 2001. A stocker had the transmission lock up or hit revierse in the shut down and lock up the rear tires. It turned 90 degrees in front of the car in the other lane. The car was going around 115. I saw it cart wheel on the guardrail and end up upside down filled with gasoline. We had a hard time getting him out of the car and the driver definately wanted out.

The point is, don't skimp. I buy a new helmet every 2-3 years. It becomes part of my racing budget. I am not rich, and don't throw money away, but I do spend some money on a helmet and my other safety equipment. It is not that you have other stuff to worry about when you crash. It is that you want to eliminate or reduce risk so that if you do crash, you are less likely to be crippled or dead. I wondered about the SA2010 rating for years. I was told about the potential for a flash fire whether it be from fuel, oil or electrical etc. It doesn't take much to start a fire. It just seemed that it was a relatively easy thing to upgrade to.

When it cost a few hundred bucks in fuel just to get to a race, it seems silly to skimp on a helmet. If you spend $400 on one and keep it 4 years, that is only $100 per year of your racing budget. Just my opinion.

Very good advise .............

Jim Kaekel 09-16-2011 08:12 AM

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X2 Very well put, Jim. You even made me think about it as I've got a SA2000 ready to expire. Some of the circle track racers I work with tell me "are you nuts?" when I tell them I wear an open face helmet.

Tom keedle 09-16-2011 10:19 AM

Re: M2000 helmets R I P
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 282980)
Thanks. Good to know.

key, hawk, do you get your helmet locally and if so, where?
i like to try 'em on before i buy....

Jim Wahl 09-16-2011 01:43 PM

Re: M2000 helmets R I P
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 283037)
I think getting the best quality helmet that you can afford is key to reducing risk in the case of an unplanned event. The problem is that you don't know how bad it will be or when it will occur. If you can't afford a good helmet, skip one race and that is enough money to easily purchase a nice one. Yes even a SA2010.

There are many many good choices, I would pick the one you like and then go to your favorite seller. I researched a new one last winter and decided to get a simpson superbandit sa2010. I then went to my favorite place for speed equipment. ( they support our Heartland series hint hint) I asked him, he got me the helmet I wanted at a discount too.

If your goal is to get the minimum allowable helmet and keep it as long as NHRA will allow, maybe you should rethink your approach. Even slower stockers are going pretty fast. It doesn't seem that fast until something bad happens.

I remember being at Bowling Green in I think 2001. A stocker had the transmission lock up or hit reverse in the shut down and lock up the rear tires. It turned 90 degrees in front of the car in the other lane. The car was going around 115. I saw it cart wheel on the guardrail and end up upside down filled with gasoline. We had a hard time getting him out of the car and the driver definately wanted out.

The point is, don't skimp. I buy a new helmet every 2-3 years. It becomes part of my racing budget. I am not rich, and don't throw money away, but I do spend some money on a helmet and my other safety equipment. It is not that you have other stuff to worry about when you crash. It is that you want to eliminate or reduce risk so that if you do crash, you are less likely to be crippled or dead. I wondered about the SA2010 rating for years. I was told about the potential for a flash fire whether it be from fuel, oil or electrical etc. It doesn't take much to start a fire. It just seemed that it was a relatively easy thing to upgrade to.

When it costs a few hundred bucks in fuel just to get to a race, it seems silly to skimp on a helmet. If you spend $400 on one and keep it 4 years, that is only $100 per year of your racing budget. Just my opinion.


Great advice! As I said before, ask Ken Etter how glad he is he bought a good helmet! The pictures of whats left of that red Demon is sill available on this site. Everyone's SA2000 helmet will be no good as of 1/1/12 and will have to be replaced. Even a FWD Stocker racer needs a good helmet when you think they are capable of running 90-110mph and have no roll bar! Jim

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Philip Saran 09-16-2011 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 283090)
Great advice! As I said before, ask Ken Etter how glad he is he bought a good helmet! The pictures of whats left of that red Demon is sill available on this site. Everyone's SA2000 helmet will be no good as of 1/1/12 and will have to be replaced. Even a FWD Stocker racer needs a good helmet when you think they are capable of running 90-110mph and have no roll bar! Jim.

And Ken Etter's helmet was a full face and he still broke his jaw amoung
other parts of his body.

Dustin Ward 09-16-2011 07:00 PM

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Even If you believe your car is too slow to warrant a good helmet, Remember in the other lane may be a 4000# 140 MPH Cobra Jet.

The Hawk 09-16-2011 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 283058)
key, hawk, do you get your helmet locally and if so, where?
i like to try 'em on before i buy....

Naw,always been through Summit. Have never had a problem with sending one back if it doesn`t fit.

Chad Rhodes 09-16-2011 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin Ward (Post 283123)
Even If you believe your car is too slow to warrant a good helmet, Remember in the other lane may be a 4000# 148 MPH Cobra Jet.

fixed

Phillip marvetz 03-01-2012 11:10 PM

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I got a full face M2005 on ebay for $26.50 and another for my wife for $35.00 including shipping, Take that stupid rule makers.

GarysZ24 03-01-2012 11:48 PM

Re: M2000 helmets R I P
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 282758)
I was informed last Saturday that my perfect condition M2000 helmet will expire at the end of the season. Any suggestions on what to get next?
One racer suggested this, http://www.helmetcity.com/page/HC/CTGY/FS-3-solid.

So far as I know from this and last years rule books, the M2000 helmet expired Jan. 1st of this year (in the NHRA), but it's still good in the IHRA...at least through this year. However, I like what everybody else has said about higher quality helmets (especially James), and that wears on my mind too...even though my stocker only runs 15's....especially with the variety of things that could happen during a run/race. Kudos to you Philip on finding a good helmet on Ebay...I'll have to check them out too, when I need to replace mine!

aspen7709 03-02-2012 01:17 AM

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The sa2000's are all done in NHRA as of RIGHT NOW. I have 2 perfect custom painted helmets rendered useless in the name of greed. I went order a sa2010 in dec because my local tech officials warned me my helmet would be out of date and I had to wait til feb 16! due to back orders and HIGH demand of on sale items. what a joke.

treessavoy 03-02-2012 01:19 AM

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Aw Man,

You mean my gold metalflake motorcycle helmet from 1972 isn't any good anymore......for real?

JimR

Greg Barsamian 03-02-2012 06:35 AM

Re: M2000 helmets R I P
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 283037)
I think getting the best quality helmet that you can afford is key to reducing risk in the case of an unplanned event. The problem is that you don't know how bad it will be or when it will occur. If you can't afford a good helmet, skip one race and that is enough money to easily purchase a nice one. Yes even a SA2010.

There are many many good choices, I would pick the one you like and then go to your favorite seller. I researched a new one last winter and decided to get a simpson superbandit sa2010. I then went to my favorite place for speed equipment. ( they support our Heartland series hint hint) I asked him, he got me the helmet I wanted at a discount too.

If your goal is to get the minimum allowable helmet and keep it as long as NHRA will allow, maybe you should rethink your approach. Even slower stockers are going pretty fast. It doesn't seem that fast until something bad happens.

I remember being at Bowling Green in I think 2001. A stocker had the transmission lock up or hit reverse in the shut down and lock up the rear tires. It turned 90 degrees in front of the car in the other lane. The car was going around 115. I saw it cart wheel on the guardrail and end up upside down filled with gasoline. We had a hard time getting him out of the car and the driver definately wanted out.

The point is, don't skimp. I buy a new helmet every 2-3 years. It becomes part of my racing budget. I am not rich, and don't throw money away, but I do spend some money on a helmet and my other safety equipment. It is not that you have other stuff to worry about when you crash. It is that you want to eliminate or reduce risk so that if you do crash, you are less likely to be crippled or dead. I wondered about the SA2010 rating for years. I was told about the potential for a flash fire whether it be from fuel, oil or electrical etc. It doesn't take much to start a fire. It just seemed that it was a relatively easy thing to upgrade to.

When it costs a few hundred bucks in fuel just to get to a race, it seems silly to skimp on a helmet. If you spend $400 on one and keep it 4 years, that is only $100 per year of your racing budget. Just my opinion.

Hey Shack, That "Car Shop Guy" really does pass along the discounts..........
never met Tim only talked to him.......

http://www.classracer.com/classforum...ad.php?t=27043

Trust me, Everyone looks for a "deal", difference is "he passes it along"!
Make the call.........

1320racer 03-02-2012 09:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 312540)
I got a full face M2005 on ebay for $26.50 and another for my wife for $35.00 including shipping, Take that stupid rule makers.

Wow and you're bragging about that. Hey if you've got a $26 head, I guess you protect it with a $26 helmet.;)

Jim Wahl 03-02-2012 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 312540)
I got a full face M2005 on ebay for $26.50 and another for my wife for $35.00 including shipping, Take that stupid rule makers.

As I said earlier, how much is your head worth? Jim


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Chad Rhodes 03-02-2012 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 312596)
As I said earlier, how much is your head worth? Jim


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not much apparently. The tinted shield on my Simpson cost more than that

1320racer 03-02-2012 10:58 AM

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some of my lunches in Manhattan cost more than that, alot more.:eek:

Phillip marvetz 03-02-2012 12:43 PM

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You guy's want to wear a Simpson helmet? Reeaaalllly? That guy killed Dale Earnhardt, No way am I going to buy any of his junk. I'll take my wife to vegas for the weekend with the money I saved instead.

Cheers.

Bill Koski 03-02-2012 12:43 PM

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If the labelling on the helmet means anything what does the price have to do with the protection afforded by the helmet?
Do the $600.00 helmets really cost that much more to manufacture OR are you just paying for the manufacturers name on the helmet?
I have two G-Force Snell M2000 helmets and feel safe with either of them on.
One has an SFI SPEC 41.2A on it so it is good to 1/1/2014, haven't checked the other one yet!


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