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TinSoldier 3215 07-31-2011 01:03 PM

What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Whats it going to take this year to make the field of 128 in Stock and Superstock???:cool:

TOSTO RACING 07-31-2011 01:09 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I knew this post would be up soon lol. I'm saying .75 for stock and .70 for super stock.

Ed Wright 07-31-2011 01:31 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Think you will have to be a lot faster than that.

Toby Lang 07-31-2011 02:00 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
An under factored car.


-Toby

Dave Casey 07-31-2011 02:14 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
-.85 in stock is my guess

Jack Matyas 07-31-2011 02:15 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
In Stock it will be low 90's under for sure .........SuperStock is a lets wait and see deal - not nearly as many "new" cars in S/S .

Kenny Wigington 07-31-2011 06:09 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Stock- -.895
SuperStock- -.813

Jim Fitzpatrick 07-31-2011 09:12 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I'm thinking about $100,000.00

Jeff Teuton 07-31-2011 09:14 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I like 70 and 68 under.

Ed Wright 07-31-2011 09:19 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I think close to .9 for SS.

Larry Hill 07-31-2011 09:20 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I think it will be -.857 in stock with all the new cars getting in when it gets down to 1 grade point.

JeremyDuncan 07-31-2011 09:21 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 272242)
I think close to .9 for SS.


Last year was -.684 for SS. Why do you think there will be such a big jump?:confused:

Jeff Teuton 07-31-2011 09:22 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I'm not sure if there will be 180

Ed Wright 07-31-2011 09:38 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyDuncan (Post 272244)
Last year was -.684 for SS. Why do you think there will be such a big jump?:confused:

More CJs & DPs.

Charley Downing 08-01-2011 05:31 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
New technology dominating, how could that be?
STK bump .746
SS bump .712
There are only going to be 6-12 more new cars then last year. And remember three of those fast stocker fords from last INDY are now SS cars.

danny waters sr 08-01-2011 07:51 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 272307)
New technology dominating, how could that be?
STK bump .746
SS bump .712
There are only going to be 6-12 more new cars then last year. And remember three of those fast stocker fords from last INDY are now SS cars.

I will say it is going to be close to that again this year/....

Billy Nees 08-01-2011 08:04 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Ya know Charlie Bob, sometimes there are just things that shouldn't be said. Now I know that you can't help yourself but I sure am glad that you brought up "new technology".
It's amazing how far FFFord has come in their attempt to perfect the internal combustion engine. Let's see 287 cubes, 4 valves per cylinder, overhead cams, port FI, CNC ported heads, big TB, you know the stats now let's compare it to that old warhorse of Stock and SS the 4V 283. You've got a factor of 232 HP and the 283 is 226. WOW! 46 years of "new technology" and FFFords best minds have managed to eke out a big 6 HP! Technology boggles the mind! If I were A FFFord engineer trying to explain that one I'd be embarrassed!
BTW Charlie, someone should make sure that the mistake in the guide gets fixed rating your car at 232HP in SS AND Stock before Indy.

Charley Downing 08-01-2011 09:39 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Your right Billy
Those 40 year old 283 don’t have acid ported heads and intakes, good CP pistons, light cranks, light valves, good rods and better cams. There just like they were in 1966. HA HA.

Billy Nees 08-01-2011 09:52 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 272334)
Your right Billy
Those 40 year old 283 don’t have acid ported heads and intakes, good CP pistons, light cranks, light valves, good rods and better cams. There just like they were in 1966. HA HA.

Charlie, that's "hot rodder technology" not FFFord engineering!
You should remember what the difference is, you were a "hot rodder" once!
HA HA.

danny waters sr 08-01-2011 11:17 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 272334)
Your right Billy
Those 40 year old 283 don’t have acid ported heads and intakes, good CP pistons, light cranks, light valves, good rods and better cams. There just like they were in 1966. HA HA.

My 283 don't have all that either and runs about 80 under and that would be about right considering the diff in equipment....probably would not pass nhra cause too stock...

Nitro Joe Jackson 08-01-2011 04:47 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
-74 in SS
-.82 stock

That's my 2 cents on this

Ed Fernandez 08-01-2011 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 272361)
My 283 don't have all that either and runs about 80 under and that would be about right considering the diff in equipment....probably would not pass nhra cause too stock...


Danny that .80 you're refering to is that the old NHRA index (current IHRA index)?If so then you're actually .50 under the current NHRA index.You probably couldn't put another
trick that hasn't been tried already into that combo.

Mickey Whaley 08-01-2011 05:20 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesracing (Post 272144)
Whats it going to take this year to make the field of 128 in Stock and Superstock???:cool:

128 cars in each class to get a bump

danny waters sr 08-01-2011 06:19 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 272432)
Danny that .80 you're refering to is that the old NHRA index (current IHRA index)?If so then you're actually .50 under the current NHRA index.You probably couldn't put another
trick that hasn't been tried already into that combo.

Yep Ed. Old NHRA and current IHRA.....
I may can get another .10 "maybe" on a perfect race condition day......I'm still happy with what i got.....

Dave Tincher 08-03-2011 02:07 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I just got in and to me it looks like it takes $355 to make it.

Ed Fernandez 08-03-2011 04:17 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Tincher (Post 272809)
I just got in and to me it looks like it takes $355 to make it.

Such a bargain!

Dyno 08-03-2011 04:36 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Do you think that 128 cars will enter? How far did they bump down to after all the "No shows" for 1st round of superstock?

jmcarter 08-03-2011 06:50 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno (Post 272838)
Do you think that 128 cars will enter? How far did they bump down to after all the "No shows" for 1st round of superstock?

Last year 166 made runs, Tony Mandella qualified 133rd and got to race so there would have been 5 no shows...(or DQ'd, I didn't check that).....no reason to think there won't be that many cars again this year (some disenchanted will be replaced by new CJ/DP/GT cars running SS combinations now.)

Mark Yacavone 08-03-2011 07:29 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 272430)
-74 in SS
-.82 stock

That's my 2 cents on this

I agree with Joe on Stock.
- 74.4 last year.
More new cars, but some have been hit several times already.

I'll take -.83 in Stock

Jim Wahl 08-03-2011 10:09 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
128 cars is $45,440.00 in NHRA's pocket! How much is the payout? That's just for Stock, X's two for Stock and Super Stock. Jim:rolleyes:

John Kelley 08-03-2011 11:01 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 272907)
128 cars is $45,440.00 in NHRA's pocket! How much is the payout? That's just for Stock, X's two for Stock and Super Stock. Jim:rolleyes:

And running Stock & SS is costing them MONEY ??
I'd like to hear their explanation for that ! :-)

Lyn Smith 08-04-2011 06:35 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
It's alot more than that ! 180 cars in SS x$355. plus at least 1 crew at $90. plus probably at least 160 stockers at $355. plus crew !!!

X-TECH MAN 08-04-2011 07:17 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 273098)
It's alot more than that ! 180 cars in SS x$355. plus at least 1 crew at $90. plus probably at least 160 stockers at $355. plus crew !!!

I know its the biggest race of the year and the most prized to win but there are a lot of dummies going to throw their money at NHRA just for the chance.

strange1 08-04-2011 09:01 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Yes they will!!

Stk2061
Robert

Jack Matyas 08-04-2011 09:21 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 273111)
I know its the biggest race of the year and the most prized to win but there are a lot of dummies going to throw their money at NHRA just for the chance.

I think you owe about 800 contestants an apology ......Dummies ??? Really ???

Rich Biebel 08-04-2011 09:31 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
I'm old and grumpy sometimes.....but if I won Indy I'd be young and happy....LOL

Paul Hellenberg 08-04-2011 09:34 PM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 273098)
It's alot more than that ! 180 cars in SS x$355. plus at least 1 crew at $90. plus probably at least 160 stockers at $355. plus crew !!!

Crew tickets I bought today were $145

Toby Lang 08-05-2011 12:00 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 273134)
I think you owe about 800 contestants an apology ......Dummies ??? Really ???


Bashers gonna bash. :rolleyes:


-Toby

Randall Klein 08-05-2011 08:58 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Dummy?....well I must be stoopid, I paid $710 for two cars, and I can't wait! Indy's on my bucket list and this is the year....now or never. I've gone twice to watch (Wed-Friday) as business prevented a long absence....but thanks to Hope & Change my business has changed....no reason to sit here and look out the window...might as well go racin'

I really can't wait...excited already, but then again I guess we're all "dummies" in a sense with $100K race cars racing for chump change....I do it for the memories....at least that is what I tell myself

See 'ya at Indy

gtaa 08-05-2011 09:10 AM

Re: What's it going to take??? Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 273198)
Dummy?....well I must be stoopid, I paid $710 for two cars, and I can't wait! Indy's on my bucket list and this is the year....now or never. I've gone twice to watch (Wed-Friday) as business prevented a long absence....but thanks to Hope & Change my business has changed....no reason to sit here and look out the window...might as well go racin'

I really can't wait...excited already, but then again I guess we're all "dummies" in a sense with $100K race cars racing for chump change....I do it for the memories....at least that is what I tell myself

See 'ya at Indy

X2
M.Lind


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