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Chris Barnes 07-18-2011 04:16 PM

1000' Racing
 
This weekend at the Woodburn Divisional "Brutus" was one of five H/SA cars including Bill Edgeworth's record holder so of course we raced to the thousand footer to move around on the qualifying sheet. I don't know why but I started thinking about the whole thousand foot deal from a spectator stand point and I started to wonder if it isn't taking away from the fun.

Chris "Wagon Drivers Never Lift" Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

X-TECH MAN 07-18-2011 05:18 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barnes (Post 269886)
This weekend at the Woodburn Divisional "Brutus" was one of five H/SA cars including Bill Edgeworth's record holder so of course we raced to the thousand footer to move around on the qualifying sheet. I don't know why but I started thinking about the whole thousand foot deal from a spectator stand point and I started to wonder if it isn't taking away from the fun.

Chris "Wagon Drivers Never Lift" Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

No Kidding !

bigshow2966 07-18-2011 05:57 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
If the class cars are running the majority of people in the stands are with the racers. They know what's going on to start with.

The Hawk 07-18-2011 06:52 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barnes (Post 269886)
This weekend at the Woodburn Divisional "Brutus" was one of five H/SA cars including Bill Edgeworth's record holder so of course we raced to the thousand footer to move around on the qualifying sheet. I don't know why but I started thinking about the whole thousand foot deal from a spectator stand point and I started to wonder if it isn't taking away from the fun.

Chris "Wagon Drivers Never Lift" Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

No more than the Super Class cars,only on the other end.

Phillip marvetz 07-18-2011 06:57 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
What fans?

The Hawk 07-18-2011 07:08 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 269931)
What fans?

Good Call!

Tony Janes 07-19-2011 10:19 AM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Stock and Super Stock fans are Stock and Super Stock racers, not any one else.

67chevygary 07-19-2011 12:19 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
I beg to differ- there may not be many but i'm certainly one of the few who appreciate "real" racing.

Tony Janes 07-19-2011 12:40 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
That is the problem "a few" or not many. That kind of fan base does not have any power.

Chris Barnes 07-19-2011 03:15 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Maybe it's because I run a '64 and a '66 but I have had a lot of fans come up to our pit who have been watching S/SS for years and want to turn on the next generation. I feel I have an obligation to show them something that they will remember. When I first started racing in Stock an old timer told me that there is more to performance in Stock than just how fast the car goes, it's also how we present and conduct ourselves. That's what separates us from the bracket racers.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

danny waters sr 07-19-2011 03:52 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
We are HISTORY.........so to speak

Ed Wright 07-19-2011 03:59 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danny waters sr (Post 270090)
We are HISTORY.........so to speak

I'm afraid so.

ALMACK 07-19-2011 04:21 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
When I got really hooked on Stock Eliminator at the 1983 Winternationals (maybe it was '84 ) , the new 307 Oldsmobile Stockers were fresh and new and I was amazed at how many ran 12's in Stock.

Since I was young and impressionable, those 307 Olds and the Turbo V-6 Buicks were my thing. I liked the 60's and early 70's stuff too, but I got hooked on late models.

Of course the NHRA back then was the only game in town.....no NMRA or NMCA to attract the young gearheads like today.

I have no idea what it will take to attract more young blood to Stock, but I would say the first step will be to allow more "real" 2010 and newer cars to run in Stock.....i.e. Challenger, Mustang, Camaro. I am referring to the street versions only. (not the DP and CJ)

Bob Emery 07-19-2011 09:34 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
I'm a fan (only) as well, been one since the early '70s. I'll be a fan of stock and super stock forever, there's no better racing on the planet!

qwiked 07-19-2011 10:22 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 270032)
Stock and Super Stock fans are Stock and Super Stock racers, not any one else.

You are correct, TJ.. SS/S fans are either current or ex participants.. The dopes in the stands only understand the heads up classes. In fact they are more impressed with 2200# monster motored S/G's than a 265" 56 Chev. in the 10's ..

Phillip marvetz 07-19-2011 10:24 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
"[QUOTE=ALMACK;270096

I have no idea what it will take to attract more young blood to Stock, but I would say the first step will be to allow more "real" 2010 and newer cars to run in Stock.....i.e. Challenger, Mustang, Camaro. I am referring to the street versions only. (not the DP and CJ)[/QUOTE]"

Hopefully the manufacturers will realize they are missing the boat by not putting the real stockers in the game...

Dinsdale 07-19-2011 11:12 PM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 270032)
Stock and Super Stock fans are Stock and Super Stock racers, not any one else.

Not true.. I know a lot of "older people" who love Stock and S/S including me. Newer cars are part of the equation but even fairly knowledgable people don't understand how a "Stock" mid 60's car can run 10's (or faster) so have become jaded.

I was a couple $$ and few hours away from running my car in Stock 3 years ago but watched some of the game playing, qualifying "tricks" to avoid someone, and the blatant cheating to gain some advantage. The idea that running to 1000' is acceptable to protect your index or a soft HP also bothers me. It's the system and not the racers but to the average spectator, a pair of cars slamming on the brakes before the finish line isn't racing.

I also really love S/S but when you get what is basically a FWD conversion Comp car including some awefull hood scoop in with what is traditionally known as a Super Stock car, people start to walk away.

Geerhead55 07-20-2011 02:23 AM

Re: 1000' Racing
 
Chris,,,I feel that many bracket racers, myself included, conduct and present ourselves in a classy fashion. I also love Stock and Superstock racing even though I've never pulled the trigger and built such a car. I've enjoyed being around class racing since the first time I saw "Wild Bill" Ireland's 427 Fairlane and Harry Holton's Hemi Plymouth at Puyallup in April of '68, and have followed it ever since. If someone comes up and asks about our cars, I try to educate them, and PR the hell out of them in the hopes that maybe they'll someday get involved. I have no problem explaining S/S racing to them, until they understand what they're seeing.
If you've heard me on the microphone at Bremerton, you know I'm always talking to the fans in the stands about getting involved, especially with kids in highschool or old enough for Jr.Dragsters.
By the way, I'm sure there'll be room in the staging lanes for your Mopars at the Memorial Footbrake race this Saturday, so come on out and try your luck at over $5,000.
Danny Durham


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