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SuperStocks@LionsDragStrip 06-19-2011 11:33 AM
Best Oldsmobile Super Stock Of All Time?
 
What Oldsmobile would you pick as the best of all time??




SuperStocks@LionsDragStrip

Daran Summerton 06-19-2011 11:37 AM
Re: Best Oldsmobile Super Stock Of All Time?
 
Dennis Ridgeway SS/NA

Dave Ley 06-19-2011 11:46 AM
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Buddy Ingersoll's Cutlass.

Run to Rund 06-19-2011 11:59 AM
Re: Best Oldsmobile Super Stock Of All Time?
 
Another vote for Ingersoll's '72 Cutlass SS/O originally, factored over and over by NHRA. Made the cover of 5/27/77 National Dragster after being factored all the way to SS/M.

Mark Yacavone 06-19-2011 12:59 PM
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Agreed


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...ol_cutlass.jpg


Next case?

JRyan 06-19-2011 01:18 PM
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Thanks Daran,

As you know, we bought that car back from Dennis after he'd improved it a bunch, and it is even faster now. But after 245 passes on the old 307 we're finally going to freshen it. Funny thing is, it's the slower of the two '88 Cutlass' in the garage right now, but a more fun ride for sure.

Never-the-less, I vote for Ingersoll's ride as he punished himself more than the car just to make it work.

Jerry

FrankChastain 06-20-2011 05:56 AM
Re: Best Oldsmobile Super Stock Of All Time?
 
Mark, that sure looks like Jim Weible's old Olds......but his was a O/S......


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keith ohanesian 06-20-2011 02:03 PM
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This is my pick. I would have to say it has won more than any other Olds out there..

Jim Kaekel 06-20-2011 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by keith ohanesian (Post 264737)
This is my pick. I would have to say it has won more than any other Olds out there..
Not to be picky, but was the Gunn/Biondo car even Olds powered? I know Ingersoll's car was powered by a 350 Olds.

Ed Wright 06-20-2011 03:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankChastain (Post 264675)
Mark, that sure looks like Jim Weible's old Olds......but his was a O/S......
That's where Buddy bought it.

qwiked 06-20-2011 04:42 PM
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Got to agree with Yac. ---Buddy had that Olds rockin'..I remember the 1977 Fallnationals in Seattle when Buddy, John Lingenfelter (Corvette) and Don Bowles (351 Mustang) showed up and made us all wonder why we were there..Those were the days!!!

Rick Bailey 06-20-2011 05:28 PM
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I don't know about the best......but it was the most fun to watch, I stood at the start line @ Gainesville and seen it drag the rear bumper a time or two.

That would be the Olds that Dennis Ridgeway had........ I still tell him "You should have kept that car " lol


Rick Bailey

Mark Yacavone 06-20-2011 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 264739)
Not to be picky, but was the Gunn/Biondo car even Olds powered? I know Ingersoll's car was powered by a 350 Olds.

NO. 68, 327/250 I think.

Nitro Joe Jackson 06-20-2011 07:36 PM
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Ingersoll's olds, it was the best of the best in SS history let alone Oldsmobile in SS

JRyan 06-20-2011 08:11 PM
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Rick,

We're glad to have Dennis' car back. As I said, it may be the 2nd fastest SS/NA Olds in our garage, but because of the bumper dragging you referred to, it's easily the most fun to drive.

Jerry

Jeff Teuton 06-20-2011 08:17 PM
Re: Best Oldsmobile Super Stock Of All Time?
 
Sammy Pizzolato still has his. Race mileage only. And he got a couple more too.

The Hawk 06-20-2011 08:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keith ohanesian (Post 264737)
This is my pick. I would have to say it has won more than any other Olds out there..
I always loved that body style!

Isaac Zane 06-20-2011 08:30 PM
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My first thought on this was the Gunn/Biondo Olds as well. But then again, I'm NOT AS OLD AS SOME OF YOU GUYS!!!!

They're all good!!!

Carl Weisinger 06-20-2011 11:14 PM
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The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.

kwm 06-20-2011 11:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by qwiked (Post 264757)
Got to agree with Yac. ---Buddy had that Olds rockin'..I remember the 1977 Fallnationals in Seattle when Buddy, John Lingenfelter (Corvette) and Don Bowles (351 Mustang) showed up and made us all wonder why we were there..Those were the days!!!
And this was a regular weekend at Beech Bend back in the day !!

Geerhead55 06-21-2011 12:12 AM
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qwiked,,, yeah, those were the days at the old Fallnationals. The reason so many of those sportsman racers made the trek to Seattle back then was because of the Grace Cup,, a prestigious award given out after a season of points earning to racers in Comp, Superstock and Stock all going for the same cup, sponsored by the Grace Corporation. We deffinately got to see the cream of the crop back then,, many of them we would never had seen otherwise. I remembered I burned a lot of film back in those years. It was great.
Danny Durham

FrankChastain 06-21-2011 06:18 AM
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You are correct Carl it was SS/O because we ran SS/P back in those days...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Weisinger (Post 264811)
The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.

Dwight Southerland 06-21-2011 08:28 AM
Re: Best Oldsmobile Super Stock Of All Time?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Weisinger (Post 264811)
The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.
You are correct. I was standing in the sidelines when Farmer told the tech guy (Xakellis IIRC) that the '72 Olds now had the same hp as the '71. Buddy had kind of smarted off to Farmer and Farmer never liked a smarta$$.

X-TECH MAN 06-21-2011 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Weisinger (Post 264811)
The Ingersoll Olds did belong to Jimmy Waibel before. Jimmy ran it in SS/O. I believe
Buddy took the car to Indy in 1976 knowing the HP had been hit for the 1971 Olds engine in his car. As I recall the story Ingersol had changed the trim to a 72 model and the same engine used a slightly smaller valve, which he had installed. So, even after the hit on the 71 he would have still been able to run SS/O. I think they put HP on the 72 combination on the spot in tech and told him he had to run SS/N. Now all of these "facts" could be out of whack since it was 35 years ago. But, maybe someone else may know something about that deal.
Its to bad Farmer isnt still doing the HP factoring today. I can think of a few combos that could use some HP.

Lambertcars 06-21-2011 11:33 AM
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3 pages of response to the best Olds Super Stock of all time and no one has even mentioned Bob Dennis !!! Bob still has 3 Super Stock cars and I may be wrong but I think that 2 of them still have Oldsmobile engines in them. I also think that the Olds that he won Indy with a couple of years ago had a 307 Olds power plant. I dont see or talk to Bob as much as I use to but I think what I stated is accurate.
Allen

JRyan 06-21-2011 01:43 PM
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Allen,

I was thinking of that very thing while working this morning. In fact, had we not bought the Cutlass we eventually sold to Dennis Ridgeway, we probably would have bought Randy Mans Achieva that Bob Dennis now owns. I always thought that Randy's Achieva was one of best working and nicest GT cars of the time. I know Bob was impressed with it once he started to run it.

The Achieva didn't need the mad-dog approach that Ingorsoll applied to the '72 Cutlass, but it may have been a better car. It was killer when Randy had it. I think Bob has backed off of it a bit, but I have no doubts it's still a killer car if need be.

Jerry

Lynn A McCarty 06-24-2011 12:39 PM
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Ezra Beachy told me he built a 70 Olds 442 455 for Super Stock and he couldnt get it to run the index no matter what he tried. (Yes before the head porting rule). Then he put it all back together for stock class and it ran way under. Those engine with the 6 degree?? valve angle just dont like to flow with RPM like you need to make power on the top. There is a reason they were the premiere engine for tree stump puller applications. Small bore, big stroke, small heads=average horsepower, high torque not what you need in Super Stock. Pontiacs are bad enough, Buicks with their big bore smaller strokes are better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0L_wyTHknw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS5ZbvNV54A

norm saibene 06-24-2011 06:41 PM
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how about Bob Wallets car

Hemi Moose 06-26-2011 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperStocks@LionsDragStrip (Post 264516)
What Oldsmobile would you pick as the best of all time??
SuperStocks@LionsDragStrip
This Oldsmobile below, and yes my flame suit is on for any nasty responses! :D

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/49...600x600Q85.jpg

vistacruiser67 04-04-2012 04:03 PM
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ITs the same car.
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4641
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankChastain (Post 264675)
Mark, that sure looks like Jim Weible's old Olds......but his was a O/S......

vistacruiser67 04-04-2012 04:08 PM
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http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4641
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 264748)
That's where Buddy bought it.

FrankChastain 04-04-2012 04:10 PM
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[QUOTE=vistacruiser67;319714]ITs the same car.
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4641


I meant to say SS/O..

vistacruiser67 04-04-2012 04:13 PM
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Ron Garey w-31 350 Olds winner of spring 68 Super Stock Nationals.http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/...-olds-w-31.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty (Post 265361)
Ezra Beachy told me he built a 70 Olds 442 455 for Super Stock and he couldnt get it to run the index no matter what he tried. (Yes before the head porting rule). Then he put it all back together for stock class and it ran way under. Those engine with the 6 degree?? valve angle just dont like to flow with RPM like you need to make power on the top. There is a reason they were the premiere engine for tree stump puller applications. Small bore, big stroke, small heads=average horsepower, high torque not what you need in Super Stock. Pontiacs are bad enough, Buicks with their big bore smaller strokes are better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0L_wyTHknw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS5ZbvNV54A

vistacruiser67 04-04-2012 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 265624)
This Oldsmobile below, and yes my flame suit is on for any nasty responses! :D

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/49...600x600Q85.jpg
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=4579

Tom Young 04-04-2012 09:52 PM
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It might not have been the best of all time, but Bob Dodson and Danny Lattimore's SS/NA, 455 Delta 88 took Indy by storm one year in the 80's. That was one neat Super Stock Olds, fast and it looked like Grandmom going for groceries. Lattimore's 455 Cutlass S 4 speed SS/K car was super neat to watch pulling big wheelstands off the line. Clean and fast. Two great Olds from the past!

Run to Rund 04-05-2012 10:53 AM
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Danny Lattimore's cars were written up in SS&DI--about Jan 1980 iirc.

vistacruiser67 04-06-2012 08:13 PM
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455 OLDS WINNER OF 71 SUMMERNATIONALShttp://wildaboutcarsonline.com/membe...erejik_70a.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty (Post 265361)
Ezra Beachy told me he built a 70 Olds 442 455 for Super Stock and he couldnt get it to run the index no matter what he tried. (Yes before the head porting rule). Then he put it all back together for stock class and it ran way under. Those engine with the 6 degree?? valve angle just dont like to flow with RPM like you need to make power on the top. There is a reason they were the premiere engine for tree stump puller applications. Small bore, big stroke, small heads=average horsepower, high torque not what you need in Super Stock. Pontiacs are bad enough, Buicks with their big bore smaller strokes are better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0L_wyTHknw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS5ZbvNV54A

vistacruiser67 06-04-2012 02:59 PM
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http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1012671_n.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Young (Post 319786)
It might not have been the best of all time, but Bob Dodson and Danny Lattimore's SS/NA, 455 Delta 88 took Indy by storm one year in the 80's. That was one neat Super Stock Olds, fast and it looked like Grandmom going for groceries. Lattimore's 455 Cutlass S 4 speed SS/K car was super neat to watch pulling big wheelstands off the line. Clean and fast. Two great Olds from the past!

vistacruiser67 06-04-2012 03:07 PM
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http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6698671_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6357146_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._3369446_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8219571_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4881313_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2877754_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1905778_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4665307_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...85209607_n.jpg
Waibel Ingersoll car


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Originally Posted by qwiked (Post 264757)
Got to agree with Yac. ---Buddy had that Olds rockin'..I remember the 1977 Fallnationals in Seattle when Buddy, John Lingenfelter (Corvette) and Don Bowles (351 Mustang) showed up and made us all wonder why we were there..Those were the days!!!

Dennis P Chapman 06-04-2012 03:26 PM
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This may have been asked but what happen to Buddys olds?


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