Stocker to superstocker
 

What are some good combos that can run stock and then build a superstock motor and run superstock??Without a tub and a bigger tire.Not looking at a legal stocker to just run superstock but rather a stocker that if you want down the road can go to superstock with the same engine combo,in superstock trim Ie intake cam etc.Thanks for any input

Kevin

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Do you have a brand preference? Most of the small and big Mopar Wedge stock combow
are capable of running well in SS on 9 inch tires. Examples:
Steve Wanns' Cuda / Don Little's Challenger have both won class and are
top qualifiers in SS. The small block 340 High/Low Comp. and 360
are much less flogged and dramatically less horsepower in SS. Whenever
Stock is Full or Not Run..........I race my Stocker either 71 or 72 Combo in
SS with NO changes other than weight adjustment and it alway runs at least a
little under SS Index while in bracket mode..... obviously it is no match for a real
dedicated SS Car but otherwise completive enough to race.

I do not know about other Brands.....Probable Late F body is similiar?

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Chev Buick,mustangs ,brand not the biggest concern.Was thinking of starting in stock and if i wanted to go faster change engine etc and go to superstock down the road.Not interested in the newer CJ"s or Mopars for $$$$reasons.Thanks

Kevin

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78-83 Chevrolet Malibu. Still cheap to buy. You should be able to get by in the lower classes in SS on a small tire.

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any third or fourth gen F-body

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My vote would be the GM G-Body's. You have the Malibu's the Grand National and the Olds Cutlass. They are cheap and have ton's of bolt on parts that work.

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My Cutlass with just a bar & belts will run either stock or super stock IHRA . You would need to dig in the engine to make it run NHRA SS

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1st Gen Camaro with a well built 427 will fit both classes also a lot of front wheel drive cars will double up to.

JimR

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Kevin My 95 Trans Am can run both stock and Superstock the way it sits and is under both indexes.. The price is right . Mike

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'69 AMX 290 cu in 225 HP; ran it in M/S on 13.15 index, went 12.15, won two events.
Changed cam to .700 lift roller, massaged heads, Edelbrock "Torker" intake, "Quikfuel" 3310 Holley, 10.5" M/T's; run SS/M on 11.90 index, goes 10.60s in good air, won one event, so far. Almost always slowest car in eliminator, we leave first with very good driver.

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any new cj ford or DP will be just fine tighten them lugs

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And its a really cool car to. Love those AMX's. Dont ever cut those wheel tubs.

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LOL why don't you rent me the car and my daughter can drive.Hmmmm we might have something here

Kevin

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What classes will the G bodies fit.I have a couple Grand Nationals and they don" t do well in either class but sure are a nice street car.Thanks

Kevin

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Roger,stop giving our secrets away.:<):<)

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'68-'70 AMC AMX 2-seat 97" wheelbase. Will run fast in Stock or Super Stock on 9" slicks with Calvert rear springs and bars. I went 10.50's in D/S with a 390 and loaded a "fair" SS 390 and a steeper rear gear. Went 10.00 in SS/H. The 290, 390 (either 1968-1969 or 1970 (different specs) and '70 360
will all under by a significant margin with the 290 as Roger mentioned probably the best to build (and cheapest).
But you probably want a belly button car...:(

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jeff, are you aware of any "approved" 290 pistons? 2bbl or 4bbl?
i'm not....
that's why i've got one (from ED F) that's gonna get sent in (to a mfgr) one of these days, probably this fall

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Tom,
Check with Hemmy Adkins or Garrett Ghezzi (SS/MA from Joliet, IL) for NHRA piston.
Dwight Southerland played around with one on a dyno also.

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Hi Roger
Back in the late 70s and early 80s I ran a 69 AMX in NHRA Super Stock with a 390 engine. Not wanting to move the rear springs or alter the wheel tubs the only tire that would fit was a 9 in tire. I have thought about geting another AMX but I would not want to alter the rear of the car. What if any thing could be done to use a bigger tire with the stock length rear end and no alteration to the spring location and the wheel tubs?
Thanks Allen

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The biggest you will get and still have the slick inside the quarters is a 9x30. There's no getting around having to do some serious trimming of the wheel well arch for a 30" slick. Otherwise you need a shorter slick like a 28" but that is a compromise in itself. But I was still going 1.38 60' in my car with a 9x29.5 in my '70 AMX. I had another with an 11.5x29.5 with stock framerails and coil-overs but it was tubbed. You could do it by using a tub or mini-tub.

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dwight and i have been in contact since the get-go...
that's why i asked about 290 pistons,afaik, i'm gonna be the one that's going to get 'em started...NOBODY to my knowledge is making an "NHRA accepted" piston...
btw, they will be 4bbl pistons....
don't think there'll be much demand for 2bbl one's...

btw, if anybody seriously wants to get the ball rolling before i get to it, contact me...

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1968 Chevelle, 327 250/245 engine, Powerglide in Stock, 3 speed OK in Super Stock.Runs J,K&L in Stock, SS/KA and SS/LA in Super Stock. 10.5" tire in SS, un tubbed with right offset wheel. It's not a second under car, but far ehough under to be fun,and they are consistant.

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Allen,
Use 8" wide Bogarts w/4" backspacing and minor wheelwell "managulating" in the front and rear (which is legal) along with some "massaging" of the inner area of the whellwell, will allow you to use a 10.5 X 29.5 M/T slick.