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Bill Harris 05-10-2011 11:40 AM

S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Well, this ought to be interesting. Only 48 cars in S/S at a Nat running class, which is interesting in itself. However, this being the first time I have run class under the newest enhancements, I wonder how it works.

From the entry list, it looks like I'm a single. From what I can tell, not knowing which scoop cars have automatics or sticks, the "Super-Stock Automatic" grouping of singles is going to have at least 12 and as many as 16 cars. How are these cars paired? Is it random or is there a ladder?

Stephen & Horace Johnson 05-10-2011 01:36 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Harris (Post 257717)
Well, this ought to be interesting. Only 48 cars in S/S at a Nat running class, which is interesting in itself. However, this being the first time I have run class under the newest enhancements, I wonder how it works.

From the entry list, it looks like I'm a single. From what I can tell, not knowing which scoop cars have automatics or sticks, the "Super-Stock Automatic" grouping of singles is going to have at least 12 and as many as 16 cars. How are these cars paired? Is it random or is there a ladder?


I wonder that myself, we waited to the last possible minute and decided to stay home...I hate to miss this race since its 2hrs away.............we are goin outlaw racing
Have fun Bill

Jim Wahl 05-10-2011 01:45 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Yep, good 'ol Artie tried to tell you guys about this great "enhancement" but nobody would listen. Jim

scott helms 05-10-2011 02:18 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
I think i'm to young to remember this...lol, but your just running for small wally like back in the ol' days. (plus points) no cash til end of year. When they crown a champion!!........i believe could be wrong if so someone will tell me so!....lmao

Jim Wahl 05-10-2011 03:13 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott helms (Post 257756)
I think i'm to young to remember this...lol, but your just running for small wally like back in the ol' days. (plus points) no cash til end of year. When they crown a champion!!........i believe could be wrong if so someone will tell me so!....lmao

Yup Scott you got it. Jim



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Toby Lang 05-10-2011 04:16 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Harris (Post 257717)
From the entry list, it looks like I'm a single. From what I can tell, not knowing which scoop cars have automatics or sticks, the "Super-Stock Automatic" grouping of singles is going to have at least 12 and as many as 16 cars. How are these cars paired? Is it random or is there a ladder?


I'm pretty sure there will be no ladder. Who gets the single is usually decided by the racers. Whatever the majority wants I guess. I would think the highest qualified car left should get the bye.


-Toby

Jim Wahl 05-10-2011 09:56 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 257788)
I'm pretty sure there will be no ladder. Who gets the single is usually decided by the racers. Whatever the majority wants I guess. I would think the highest qualified car left should get the bye.


-Toby

It's sounding more and more like a New York street race than a sanctioned event! Jim




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Dennis P Chapman 05-10-2011 10:18 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 257846)
It's sounding more and more like a New York street race than a sanctioned event! Jim




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Loved going to those street races.

Toby Lang 05-10-2011 10:29 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 257846)
It's sounding more and more like a New York street race than a sanctioned event! Jim


Well, that's the way class has been run since I've been racing stock. Has it ever been any different?


-Toby

Jack Matyas 05-11-2011 08:20 AM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 257846)
It's sounding more and more like a New York street race than a sanctioned event! Jim




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New York street race ? That should be Artie's cup of tea ............

Bill Harris 05-11-2011 10:35 AM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Hey Toby,

I probably should have been more clear. By "single" I meant that I was the only GT/JA car in the list. I wasn't referring to a possible bye run (aka "single").

In the past, when I ran class, there were rarely more than for or maybe five cars in my class. So it wasn't too big of a deal to determine who would run who. But with this "enhancement", where all single-car-in-a-class-with-a-particular-transmission-type are lumped together in a run-off, that grouping can get pretty large, such as in this case where there are at least 12 cars. So I wondered how the run order would be determined, if there is some "official" way or whether it was just up to the participants.

Toby Lang 05-11-2011 10:58 AM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Yes, I knew what you meant. I have run class in G/SA that had 12 cars or more. There was no ladder. It's up to the racers to decide who runs who and who gets the single.

Sometimes they draw numbers out of a hat. Sometimes people request to run each other. Sometimes they flip coins. Usually, the highest qualifier gets pulled out for the bye and the rest just run whoever they are lined up with.

I'm pretty sure it will be the same at Atlanta.


-Toby

Don Himes 05-11-2011 11:08 AM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
This all may be a moot point, because the forecast looks like a complete wipeout on Fri, Sat and Sun! Hope the tire guys are there on Thurs. so I can at least get new rubber on the car!

MikeMoller 05-11-2011 08:33 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Got this info from Michael Beard concerning stock class combo at Charloote:

They didn't pair us. There were three of us, and we decided amongst ourselves that it was fair to give the bye to the car furthest under the index in qualifying.
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Bob Mulry 05-11-2011 09:22 PM

Re: S/S Class at Atlanta
 
Hi,

The problem starts when there is a 9 car field (worst example), which means every round except the final will have a bye.....

NHRA could (if they wished to) generate a ladder based on the last qualifying runs in 5 minutes and eliminate the dance that we go though to race......

I don't think that it will ever happen because it is more work for NHRA....

Bob


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