Class winners Decal check?
 

I noticed in the dragster I got today. There are listing for contingency for winners of stock classes.
Would someone care to elaborate on this?

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I checked, it was an error Art

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There was no pay-out for a class win here in Charlotte. Just a trophy. We were informed as we were getting torn down that they made a mistake in National Dragster.

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It was posted on line and in dragster. I wonder if someone should get a lawyer? LOL

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Maybe this was what bernie posted as something we were going to like?
nhra saved 5 trophies by combing singles, aren't you proud?

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They are going to need the money for tax attorneys.

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Tom can buy another case of beer! Jim:rolleyes:

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Who would run for only a trophy and expose themselves to an involuntary teardown?

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and horsepower to boot

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Do you guys realize by saying this you are are setting up. The no heads up racing. Just dial it and run. If you don't have class there is absolutly no reason to have any heads up racing.

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If this lack of decal money for a class win is really true, this is a MONSTER kick in the balls to the nhra sportsman racer. No more need to spend the big money to make your car the fastest on the planet, (or at the event at hand) as you will no longer be recognized for spending that money. Can't be true, must be a big joke!! As Koski said, why race for a trophy and chance a teardown? You won't even get gasket money out of it....................
I have always believed the a win on Sunday is far more important than a class win on Friday. That being said, there are a bunch of racers out there who charish their class trophy more than their next breath. Next they will be taking that away and giving out a photocopied achievement award.

Don't ya just love all these enhancements??

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You sir have hit the nail on the head! Jim

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For most,class money is only about $150 to $300,not like the glory days just over 10 years ago when you`d get over 1K.

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This is for real. I've been bitching about it for a couple of months. They did take the trophies away for singles. (at Charlotte they saved 4 trophies) And I know of 4 cars that would have gone but didn't because of the no singles.
So bernie and glendora I hope you are pleased. nhra is moving farther and father from racing now it's a DVD of the month club.
I'm going to Calififornia in July I think I'll stop by nhra headquarters and tell them what they can do with their DVDs. I can't and won't say it on here.

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Except when you get into the later rounds of eliminations and have a heads-up race. That's where it really counts.

Last time I won class I think I got $100. It was the first time I've ever won class in the Chevelle and I didn't care about the money. That class Wally is one of my most prized trophies. I'm definitely not a high roller, but to me there's not much difference between a class Wally and $100 and just a class Wally. But there's a huge difference between winning a heads-up race in the fourth or fifth round of eliminations and losing one.


-Toby

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Toby why do you bother with stock eliminator where you might have a headsup run?
Don't they have high dollar no electronic races out west. There is no chance of a heads up, no teardowns. It's cheaper to enter.
Toby I think guys like you count on the guys that have big egos and want to get all they can out of their cars. There is so much dedication you can have and to work on the car to go faster all the time takes some away from driving. Giving somewhat of an advantage to guys like you that concentrate 95% on the driving.
As far as the money goes last year I was able to make $750 for a class win (thanks to Mopar) . That paid for the entry fee and part of the traveling.

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I think what happened in Las Vegas speaks for itself. Do I have to elaborate?

I've won my fair share of heads-up races over the years. I'd say just about half of them. Just ask all the people who thought they had an easy win and I snuck up on them and beat them.


Not many high dollar races out west. And there's nothing like winning a national event.


That's what it's all about isn't, Art? The gravy train has come to an end. No longer can you just show up and collect the easy participation money (as Bernie calls it.)

When was the last time you had a heads-up race in eliminations?


-Toby

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[QUOTE=Toby Lang;
When was the last time you had a heads-up race in eliminations?


-Toby[/QUOTE]

Can I answer that, can I, can I ???

Oh about 2 or 3 weeks ago in the first round...............................

Lets just say that Charlie learned a REALLY big lesson that day!!

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I love 'em so much, that it was worth it for me to travel 3k miles (round trip), to offer support to the westbound sanctioning body who's doesn't offer such enhancements. The only good I see in this new class racing format, is the practice with racing in nearly regular racing conditions, so as to envision what a regular race could be like. I'm looking forward even more so now to Father's Day Weekend, and Salt Lake City!

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I was there for that one Charlie, and you can be proud that you gave it your best shot.

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Toby. they could go back to the way they used to run. Class winners only If you didn't win class you became a spectator or went home. In 1979 Indy there were 5 cars in B/SA 3 of them had us covered By a bunch (the mid motored sports cars were flying). We got the right breaks and went home the following Thurday. So don't tell me about heads up crap
There are a lot of guys that work to hard on their cars and not enough time driving them. But thats their choice. If these guys quit it makes it a lot harder for you, wheter you want to believe it or not.
I feel only about 20% of the racers at a national event are really capable of winning the whole thing. Sure some get lucky but not very often. Get rid of half of the 80% and it will take it's toll on you. Very few easy runs.

You are a bracket racer that drives a stocker, there is nothing wrong with that. But if everyone had the same game plan how would you work the bottom of the ladder?

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Charlie,

This may be the time dig one of those roof racks out of storage...just to check for any aerodynamic advantage it might offer. But remember to change it to a Ford part number.

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OMG!!! LMAO!!! You would be suprised at how much Vega technology is in this Mustang........................................... ..Thanks Rick!!

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Art,

My primary goal in qualifying is to avoid a first round heads-up race (as it is with many people who qualify in the bottom half of the field.) I really don't care who I have to run first round as long as I don't have a heads-up race. Of course, I would prefer not to run the Biondo's, Fletcher, Edmond, Zane, Faul etc.. But it is much better to run them than having to run a race where I have virtually zero chance of winning.

If everybody was lifting like me, I would qualify at the top so I'd get the first round bye. :)


-Toby

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And what lesson would that be? Lifting at a thousand feet during qualifying? :)


-Toby

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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................... ......
Quiet down Toby, don't give that secret away on the internet.

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Same old story,
Same people crying about the same things..
Toby X2
You cant win an arguement with this crew.
Racers race crybabys cry..
As my uncle says Some people you just cant reach!
Jim why didnt you come here and race? Inquiring minds want to know?
Playing the AFHS game?

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james why don't you come down to one of the SSSSA races? And put your money where your mouth is? I'm sure we could get at least double the amount you could win at a national event but you will have to come up with your share. You certainly do your share of crying. Do you have an enfatuation with Jim? This thread had abslolutly nothing to do with Jim. Do you think Jim is the only racer "playing the ahfs game" ?.
You badmouthed Chris (Drooze) told him he was stupid and would never get the car running. Well you were wrong there too. The car runs as good or better than any, And it was just an electronic glitch.

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Well when both cars were at the same track. There was not a peep out of him. Till he got home on the keyboard. I guess thats telling it like it is "internet style"

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I have more important things going on in my life that makes the childish game of "show me your penis" with "Jelous Jimmy" a very low priority. My Volare's performance and reputation speaks for its self thanks to a the man who built it. Yes, I play the AHFS game just like half the other racers out there today. So what? If he and I meet at a race and we are in the same class, so be it, but his problems just aren't that interesting to me and I'm not going to lose any sleep about it. As I stated, I have much more important things in my life right now. Jim

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Jim there are 2 kinds of racers. Those that play ahfs games and those that wish they could.
But this thread had nothing to do with that. I simply saw a posting for class win money on the internet ,
and then in dragster and asked about it.......


Thinking maybe nhra had a change of heart when they looked at the car counts.
Then all the nonsense and attacks started.

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I agree Art and I'm sorry that there are those who will hijack any thread just to try and satisfy their self-importantance. Sad.

I have just one question. Why didn't "Little Jimmy" step to me and talk ***** when he had the chance at the Georgia race? He knew I was there and he knew where I was pitted. Jim


.Regardless.................. I truly hope James does well today in Charlotte. Jim




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Thought I would get back to the REAL topic here.................the class winners who have just gotten boned in Charlotte. Is this the first race this year that had class run offs? There was a Jegs Sports Nat race recently, were those class winners paid for their decals? Wonder in the eliminator winners today will be paid for decals and free manufacturer advertising on national TV and live on ESPN?

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A while back there was a lot of heated debate on here about nhra's newest enhancement (they actually wrote the word).
That they would only be paying class winners at the 3 sportsnationals and Indy. They also announced they would be no more class singles, that the single cars would run each other for the class win. They also supposedly set up a "national class performer award" that was supposed to be worth more than $10,000 . They were only going to count the 8 races that didn't pay contingency money (best 3 out of 5). But they added the sportsnationals the same week as the first race.
Since then there hasn't been a word. Not a peep about the postings, Not a peep about the standing. Nothing.
I saw the contingency listing for class in stock eliminator, and thought maybe there was another change.
That is what this thread was about. But the little people could not resist a chance for some personal BS.
This is why stock and superstock are doomed. Not only do the racers that have nhra's ear want to change things to benefit them. they also want to see others hurt ("no more free rides" etc.).
I loudly voiced my opinion and was called a crybaby, and that I didn't deserve to win class because there was nobody in the other lane. And that I was taking up a spot that a "real" race car could occupy. And trust me I could run every race even if it was only the top 16 qualifiers

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[QUOTE=art I loudly voiced my opinion and was called a crybaby, and that I didn't deserve to win class because there was nobody in the other lane. And that I was taking up a spot that a "real" race car could occupy. And trust me I could run every race even if it was only the top 16 qualifiers[/QUOTE]

You should get 2 trophys, 1 for the class win and 1 for racing a car in a class that no one else has the nuts to compete in. "Taking up the spot of a real race car", that's absurd! Your car was built from the same rule book, with parts from the same contingency sponsors and teched to be legal by the same offficals just like their "real race car".

Oh, and one more thought..................On Sunday you will use the same shoe polish, flip for a lane with the same quarter, go to fuel check and the scales and have a beer after you win the whole thing just like you would if you had a "real race car" !!!