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sammy christian 04-10-2011 12:26 AM

drag brace central
 
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Ed Fernandez 04-10-2011 01:20 AM

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You know the guys who do this do it as a service to us FOR FREE.They're fed info from the computor and have little time to put it up.Instead of calling them names,get on here and question the runs that don't look right instead of riding their ***** like a disgruntled
political party follower.
I read the text on stock and he called one race a heads up that wasnt.On the whole they do a good job reporting on the race.
I questioned a race the other day and got a PM explaining the situation which was a computor glinch.
You can always take over for them if you can do better.

james schaechter 04-10-2011 08:01 AM

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We are spoiled!

I remember where the Dragster was it and if the postmaster forgot it in the crapper, you were in the dark!

There was a time when, as an announcer at NHRA, we got a real nice packet mailed to us with detailed race coverage. That was too cool in the day.

Now we get all kinds of live info. I get frustrated too, at times, but we have to remember that most of the people behind the scenes are helping us to race. They love it even if they don't know everything about it.

They usually get paid little or nothing. I guess cutting them a break would be the best thing.

Floyd Staggs 04-10-2011 08:06 AM

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Maybe you should stay off the site if it doesn't meet your approval.

Ed Wright 04-10-2011 09:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 251826)
Maybe you should stay off the site if it doesn't meet your approval.

There ya go!!

jwsamuel 04-10-2011 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy christian (Post 251811)
really has turned into a joke. what happened to the reliable people that used to cover the races? so many mistakes in th coverage its hardly worth following. guy that's covering MIR ihra race sounds like a dumb ***.

Thanks for the kind words.

BTW, we are all the same people who have been here for at least the past 10 years.

Jim
The dumb *** who is covering the MIR IHRA race.

jwsamuel 04-10-2011 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 251817)
I read the text on stock and he called one race a heads up that wasnt.On the whole they do a good job reporting on the race.

Hi Ed.

Actually, heads up is inserted by our computer software, which takes the data right from the CompuLink system. If there is a glitch, it can misread the dials. That said, I should have caught that.

Anyone who spots an error can email me at jsamuel@fastnews.net so that I can check it out and make a correction. We all want to make our reporting as accurate as possible. I also make no pretense about knowing everything there is to know about drag racing, so I look at correcting errors as a learning experience.

Jim Samuel
The dumb *** who is covering the MIR race. :)

jwsamuel 04-10-2011 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 251817)
I read the text on stock and he called one race a heads up that wasnt.On the whole they do a good job reporting on the race.

Hi Ed,

I went on and fixed the report. Here's what happened...when the pair was put into the computer, neither the dial nor the class made it into our system. The software read that both racers were in the same class (in this case, none) and called it a heads up race.

I just looked it up off the run logs and made the change. Fortunately, the winner of the race was correct.

Jim Samuel

Rick Leininger Jr. 04-10-2011 11:22 AM

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Jim, thanks for all that you do!

NHRA National Open coverage is lacking, is there a way to include the National Opens in your coverage?

Thanks!

jwsamuel 04-10-2011 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Leininger Jr. (Post 251856)
NHRA National Open coverage is lacking, is there a way to include the National Opens in your coverage?

When you go to the DRC site, on the top masthead you'll see a link to Feedback (It's under the right edge of the DRC logo). Send a message through the Feedback section.

Jim

CBS 04-10-2011 07:09 PM

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Jim,

Your reporting is like a drug to us when we aren't at a race......and when we don't have it we are lost.....along with the fact that a national open in division 1 for stock and super stock is usually a record setter.....

Thanks for all you do....

Rock Haas....

Sam Murray 04-10-2011 08:00 PM

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Jim. A big Thank You for all you and your team do for us! I didn't know we had so many perfect people on this site!

Mike Brogniez 04-10-2011 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sam murray (Post 251941)
jim. A big thank you for all you and your team do for us! I didn't know we had so many perfect people on this site!


x2
mb

Lew Silverman 04-10-2011 08:25 PM

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Jim,

Thanks from me for all you do to get the news out! I know sometimes it's tough, but your efforts are really appreciated.

Lew

danny waters sr 04-10-2011 09:31 PM

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Thanks Jim and i was there and still go to the site for the runs and info. I know what it is like to work for nothing ,you are way underpaid.... Thanks again for what you do . Oh , I fixed the stocker when i got home . It was not the motor as we first thought. Torque converter bolt came out and wedged between flywheel and block and hid very good i might add... Could have fixed at track if i would have seen it . Checked everything (i thought ) ......Just was not meant to be.....

Nitro Joe Jackson 04-11-2011 11:21 AM

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if people only knew what it takes to do this stuff all the time with numbers and everything,
Everybody from DRC does a GREAT job all the time and yes there will be mistakes at times but hey no biggie we all do it.
Once again GREAT job to the DRC crew at every event, even Rick (he doesn't like my yellow hat or me i think, lol)

art leong 04-11-2011 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nitro joe jackson (Post 252071)
if people only knew what it takes to do this stuff all the time with numbers and everything,
everybody from drc does a great job all the time and yes there will be mistakes at times but hey no biggie we all do it.
Once again great job to the drc crew at every event, even rick (he doesn't like my yellow hat or me i think, lol)

x2

GarysZ24 04-11-2011 08:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 252071)
if people only knew what it takes to do this stuff all the time with numbers and everything,
Everybody from DRC does a GREAT job all the time and yes there will be mistakes at times but hey no biggie we all do it.
Once again GREAT job to the DRC crew at every event, even Rick (he doesn't like my yellow hat or me i think, lol)

Me three!

340Cuda 04-11-2011 09:24 PM

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Jim,

A big thank you to you and the other DRC reporters!

Bill Lamb

Jim Wahl 04-11-2011 10:22 PM

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Jim, you guys do a great job and 99.9% of us really appreciate it so much. It IS like a drug and we all have to have it! Thanks for all the hard work. Jim

THE LEGEND 04-12-2011 07:26 AM

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I love DRC. I look at it all the time. It's as good as being there. Sometimes I'll be working, and I will stop every hour or so just to chck results.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
Chip Johnson

Dave Ribeiro 04-12-2011 08:03 AM

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Jim,

I agree with what everyone has said about DRC , we all thank you for the great job you do .... Jim S, is right we all have gotten SPOILED .... Just keep doing what you guys do Best ,that's updateing the Racers on what's going on ....
Thanks again, for a job well done .... Forget the Booo Birds !!!

John Kelley 04-12-2011 10:35 AM

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Where did SAMMY go ?? :-)
SAMMY CHRISTIAN that is....

jwsamuel 04-12-2011 10:43 AM

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Thanks for all the good words.

There will be errors from time to time, as we get moving pretty quickly from class to class during the latter rounds of an event. As I said before, if you do see an error, let me know so I can correct it.

Thanks for going to DRC so much,

Jim

Gary Smith 04-12-2011 11:25 AM

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Throw my hat in too. I check DRC daily and probably seen more misprints in the legacy publications. Also DRC covers events and photos in WAY better detail than ND or the magazines ever wish they could. So I agree we have become spoiled. DAMN great job Jim!!!!!!!

Mack Reeves 04-12-2011 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsamuel (Post 252270)
Thanks for all the good words.

There will be errors from time to time, as we get moving pretty quickly from class to class during the latter rounds of an event. As I said before, if you do see an error, let me know so I can correct it.

Thanks for going to DRC so much,

Jim

The only person that doesn't make a mistake is the person that does nothing... DRC you all do a lot for us that can't be at every racetrack every weekend... Keep up the good work and keep on keepin on... Thanks for being there when we can't......

Ed Wright 04-12-2011 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mack reeves (Post 252299)
the only person that doesn't make a mistake is the person that does nothing... Drc you all do a lot for us that can't be at every racetrack every weekend... Keep up the good work and keep on keepin on... Thanks for being there when we can't......

x2!

Frank B. 04-12-2011 07:36 PM

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All Sammy was saying is that Drag "brace" central made a mistake:D Come on guys be nice. Thanks again for the great job you do at Drag Race Central . I do not want to go back to the good old days where we didn't know race results till it came out in National Dragster.

Ed Fernandez 04-12-2011 07:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank B. (Post 252351)
All Sammy was saying is that Drag "brace" central made a mistake:D Come on guys be nice. Thanks again for the great job you do at Drag Race Central . I do not want to go back to the good old days where we didn't know race results till it came out in National Dragster.


Originally Posted by sammy christian
really has turned into a joke. what happened to the reliable people that used to cover the races? so many mistakes in th coverage its hardly worth following. guy that's covering MIR ihra race sounds like a dumb ***.

Subtle as a sledge hammer.




Let dead dogs lie.

art leong 04-12-2011 07:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank B. (Post 252351)
All Sammy was saying is that Drag "brace" central made a mistake:D Come on guys be nice. Thanks again for the great job you do at Drag Race Central . I do not want to go back to the good old days where we didn't know race results till it came out in National Dragster.

And we all "know"nhra never makes mistakes.

Chad Rhodes 04-12-2011 08:33 PM

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you guys do a great job. might I suggest a DRC iPhone app

Ed Wright 04-12-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 252360)
you guys do a great job. might I suggest a DRC iPhone app

Ditto!! Although I watch it with Safari just fine.

GarysZ24 04-13-2011 01:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank B. (Post 252351)
Come on guys be nice. Thanks again for the great job you do at Drag Race Central . I do not want to go back to the good old days where we didn't know race results till it came out in National Dragster.

Well said Frank, because I don't recall ND even giving us more than 1/4th the coverage that Jim does @ Drag Race Central, and certainly not with the finite detail that Jim offers! Thanks to you Jim, I quickly learn what went down at the various races w/o being at them, so as to be in the loop up on my racing buds (and others) nationwide...keep it up Jim! :)

My only question Jim is how do you guys come up with the distance approximations that you post with the close races? I ask because I just read the elimination coverage between Jason Line & Larry Morgan from the Las Vegas nat's, and after seeing the finish line shot on the tube, that looked much closer than a 9" finish line m.o.v. to me (per the .0026 finish line difference)? I took intrigue in this because in my race at San Antonio, the finish line difference in my race with George McMillan was .0029 and stated to be approx. 4". Since my car only did 84mph, and Larry's pro stocker did over 200mph, I'm curious of how my car could be closer to a 120mph stocker (who crossed the line ahead of me), than two cars that nearly ran the same speed (and much faster I might add than mine), when my m.o.d. (margin of defeat) was .0003 worse than Larry's?

Floyd Staggs 04-13-2011 03:51 PM

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Thanks to DRC for a hell of a good job. Like I said, if you don't like what you see, don't visit the site. And don't critisize.

bill dedman 04-14-2011 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 252354)
And we all "know"nhra never makes mistakes.

Yeah, like the time my friend Denny Reed won the Mile Hi Nationals, after trying to win a national event for twenty years, and the headline on the National Dragster Stocker page read, "Denny FORD" (a Camaro racer at the time; Denny Reed's car was a Mustang) wins Stock at Denver."

Do you think that after 20+ years of running NHRA events, faithfully, He (Denny Reed) was offered a correction (after I TOLD them at ND) ?


NOPE... not a word...

A class act.... NOT.

Insofar as Fast News goes, reporting a race is a TON of work, involving much time and effort. That WE get it for FREE, is a minor miracle, especially, considering its excellence and near comprehensive nature.

I used to wait WEEKS; sometimes MONTHS (there was no National Dragster in the fifties) for race reports (such as they were) in Hot Rod magazine.

So you can imagine how much ~I~ appreciate what these guys do for us....

When Larry Sullivan and his partner started up this trackside ("real time"???) reporting, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven...

Kudos to all involved in the ongoing and timely production of the very excellent "FAST NEWS" from DRC!!!! :) And, don't sweat the small stuff....

jwsamuel 04-14-2011 10:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 252397)
My only question Jim is how do you guys come up with the distance approximations that you post with the close races?

Hi Gary,

The software we have calculates the margin of victory using the timing information that comes off the Compulink system.

Jim

jwsamuel 04-14-2011 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 252649)
When Larry Sullivan and his partner started up this trackside ("real time"???) reporting, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven...

FYI...Larry is the guy who wrote, and continues to update, the software that makes this all possible.

Jim

bill dedman 04-15-2011 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsamuel (Post 252739)
FYI...Larry is the guy who wrote, and continues to update, the software that makes this all possible.

Jim

Yes; Larry just found a way to indentify the four different types of induction systems used on Fast News reporting of Pro Mods;


No power adder: no notification
Supercharged: S
Nitrous: N
Turbocharged: T

Thanks, Larry!!!

John Kelley 04-15-2011 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwsamuel (Post 252739)
FYI...Larry is the guy who wrote, and continues to update, the software that makes this all possible.Jim

Didn't Eddie Dykes start that deal ?
Then died in a plane crash.......RIP

jwsamuel 04-16-2011 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 252899)
Didn't Eddie Dykes start that deal ?
Then died in a plane crash.......RIP

Yes to both.

For anyone who is interested, here is a brief history.

What is now DRC has its roots in the mid to late 1980s in the Motorsports forum on the old CompuServe Information Service. There were a group of us who would cover NASCAR, Indy cars, sports cars, drag racing and other types of motorsports by taking computers to the races and filing reports throughout the event. Someone wrote a program (for MS-DOS) that automated the process for NASCAR and other racing that runs laps around a circuit. Larry Sullivan wrote a similar program for drag racing. The group covering drag racing at the time on CompuServe included Ed, Larry, Rick Green, Dave Rowe, Dave Gerard, Bob Orme and the late Darryl Jackman (I hope I have not left anyone out). Back then, I was only covering NASCAR and Indy cars and did not become involved in drag racing coverage until 2001.

When the Internet started to take hold in the 1990s, Ed was one of the first to recognize what was going on and created FastNews Network, which provides the content for DRC. What exists today grew from Ed's idea and work.

Ed Dykes died in January 2000 when he was flying his private plane home from the IHRA banquet. After his death, Rick and Larry kept FastNews going since then. Larry continually updates the software, both to provide more information and to accommodate changes, such as four-wide racing or 1,000 feet), and Rick keeps us up and running.

That's the brief version and I am sure I have forgotten someone or something that happened along the way.

Jim


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