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Ok lets try this again. Is anyone going to San Antonio this weekend? My car is all apart,but I plan on making it. It's going to be a late thurs night/fri morning getting it ready. I hope there is a good turnout for S/SS. Ed

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Me

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I *think* I found my glitch. I'm going to try, if nothing comes up. Between 8 & 9 hours each way. I'm none too bright, I just like to race.

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Right now im suppose to get my clutch back by thursday. If so it will be a late night and well be there fri morning.

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Ed Wright, if that comment of yours is a swipe at me, then I'll consider the source. I'm out to embrace the IHRA, and if it means traveling 8-9hrs to do so, then that's fine with me. Hey, it's my money, and my choice of how I choose to spend it (besides, I feel it's an investment in my racing future, that will show IHRA, that I'm happy they're trying to come and play in our part of the country)! If you don't like it (even though you're closer than I am), then don't show up...I don't really care! I'll tell you one thing, it's a whole lot better paying $200 for a national event (with a chance to go to the world finals), than pay $305 to the monopoly and the enhancements that go with it!

As for you (the Deuces Wild) Ed, I hope you get your clutch together, and I'll look forward to seeing you there. I have some friends there who've been bugging me to come visit them for 10yrs., and now that IHRA is in Az., I'm going there to show my appreciation to them for trying to give us westcoast racers another venue by which to enjoy our passion for drag racing (that actually seems to appreciate us, by giving us more coverage in their magazine, and allows us to spend less money to participate in the races w/o the enhancements we've been blessed with by Glendora). It's nice to have options for a change! :)

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WHAT?? I have no idea what you are talking about! It's almost nine hours each way for ME! I have no idea (nor do I care) where you live or how long it takes you to get there.
Get over yourself.

Btw, Houston is about the same drive for me, No Problem is 12 hours each way for me.

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I was thinking the same thing ED. Where the Hell did that come from? It clearly isn't a smart move considering what you have to risk and what the payoff might be. Once again, Throw a T/S payout and we are driving the 8 hours to be there too. Ain't making it as it stands and I'm quite sure there are multiple cars with less driving distance that think the same way. It just isn't worth the money and time vs other races.

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As I said, Hagen, I'm none too bright. I just like to race. I ran the 2009 race there. Didn't get to last year. Only got to race 4 time all last year. Going to try to make more races this year.

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45mins for me. Ill be there

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I will be out spectating as work has me in the area for 3 weeks. If anyone needs a pit bitch, let me know.

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Gary ed wasn't talking about you at all. Can't we all just get along. Geez

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I know exactly what your talking about. We went to every IHRA race within 800 miles of us a couple years ago. Even made a cross country trip to the Rock and hung out in the cold rain for 4 days for no reason. I get it. If you want to race, you'll be there. Problem is that neither org is making it worth it finacially, and IHRA won't get the cars just because they put on a good race and they are nice to you. Its still a better value to save vacation time and money for NHRA races. I guess I'll be like most other racers and be drawn to the glory of NHRA untill IHRA makes it worth it for us to travel. If you asked me 2 years ago, I'd say that was the dumb move and you have to support IHRA if you want them to succeed. Well, Good word hasn't brought anyone over. Wonder if money would. We might just have a mental breakthrough with these $5,000 to win IHRA races coming up. To bad they arn't anywhere around us.

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Hagen that is the silliest thing I've ever heard. I'd rather take a shot at one in 15 or 20 to win $6,000.00 with contengency than a one in 50 to 100 shot going to an NHRA race.

Yeah the chances of drawing a duck at an IHRA race is slimmer as one out of two is a hitter, but you still have to run those people at an NHRA race, just not as close together

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I'd love to know where you get that $6000 from. How long has it been since you checked the list? I also noticed that you didn't show at Baton Rouge. Was it not worth your trip to come to my home track from San Antonio? Actions speak a little louder than your words Mr. Blackmon, and it seems you agree with me. You aint traveling for IHRA either. This isn’t about how easy the money is, maybe you, not me. Its about car count and getting people to support IHRA. So Yeah, You think its ridiculous, but I'd rather make my way through more cars for more money. That’s the glory of NHRA I was talking about. And its not 1 in 20-30 vs 1 in 50-100. Odds go by rounds, not cars. So its more like 1 in 5 vs 1 in 6-7. That aint much different odds where I come from. If you figure in these ducks you’re talking about, you ought to get 1 or 2 rounds for free.. right? How silly does it look now?

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Hagen I'm going because SA is only an hour away. I have family there to stay with (no hotel bills). So it's cheaper for me to go there than Dallas or Houston. Just a money deal to me. Hope to see you at the next one. Ed

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Hey Paul duck here LOL Do you still have your car or did you sell it. Ed

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Yeah, that’s a good risk vs reward for you. I'm not saying racing IHRA is a dumb move. Not at all, in fact, I'm saying the opposite. I'm not going to miss a race in my back yard (Baton Rouge) just because its IHRA. But there are quite a few cars in the area that don't make it, yet travel further to NHRA races. That’s what I've been trying to get at. People aren’t going to go to IHRA races just because everyone says they put on a good time. You have to give them some incentive that will make them give it a shot. More reward will make people risk more (drive further, more fuel, time off, entry fees, and wear on your nice piece). Give us a bigger payout and its only a matter of time before anyone with business since realizes that its worth it to travel. More people realize this = more cars. You only need 10 more cars to add $2000 to the payout structure. Probably don't even need 10 when you count the crew member tickets. Who doesn't bring someone with them? I know we would be in SA if we thought we had some shot of recouping half the expenses to go, but we aren’t going to drive 7-8 hours, put wear on the cars, and end up spending $1,200 with the most we can hope for if we aren’t one of the 2 cars in the final is $150. A runner up would barely make that money back. I know we choose to have an expensive piece that we don't want to put a bunch of useless runs on, and a big F'n camper that gets terrible gas mileage, but so does 90% of the NHRA cars that don't go to IHRA races. They would rather save it for NHRA.

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Hey Hagen, in answer to your question about the total payout, with contengency it ended up being $5500.00. To me it doesnt look too silly now, three rounds for that kind of payout, You can take the "glory" , I'll stick with the money !!!!

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That was a unusually low car count in your back yard. Congrats. Something tells me you won't be at Baton Rouge this weekend were all that easy money is. I don't know who you think your fooling with claiming $5,500. I guess you can claim $1,100 more than Myron Piatek can even though he knows exactly how to claim the most money. We will all see if your claims are true in just a few days by going here. www.ihra.com/contingency/

I'll give you that it still a good payout considering the rounds, but that doesn't happen at 98% of IHRA races. I'm going to have to go more rounds this weekend than yall did for a lot less payout. So, load it up and drive the exact same distance you can't believe I didn't. You have two shots at claiming all that money. I'll see you there......

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Well congrats to the Blackmons for taking there car out of mothballs and coming to the race and winning to boot. That had to be one of the strangest finals ever. Also congrats to Latino for his win in stock. I would like to thank RJ for all the help he has given me. I hope to see you guys at Dallas.

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No we wont be at Baton Rouge, we broke the car on the run against Larry Cummings, now gotta go back to work on it. We arent fooling anyone, everything on that list is legit !!!!

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Mr. Blackmon. I like to deal in fact, not overinflated talk. The facts on how much yall claimed hasn't been posted yet. You can say $6,000, then $5,500 all you want. Don't make it fact. If you were to wait until the facts came out and then posted, It would carry a lot more weight with me. I just can't believe you can claim $2,500-$1,100 more than the people who claimed on the other two nitro jams. I could be wrong.

Another fact is that you haven't been to any Crandall, Lufkin, or Baton Rouge IHRA race, and then you tell me I'm silly because I won't drive to San Antonio from Lafayette LA because the Risk vs. Reward isn't there compared to other races. I don't believe there has been a Blackmon car at any race besides San Antonio in the last 8 years, but all of us are crazy for not supporting IHRA. Go ahead and say you won't be at Baton Rouge this weekend because your car is broken (sorry for your misfortune), but that doesn't explain why you weren't there for the Nitro Jam earlier this year. I can only assume you weren't there because you ain't traveling for a race that’s not worth the potential reward.

WE (us who go to more than one track a year) have to pick which races are worth the time off and money spent and wear on our cars and rigs. If IHRA is paying less than NHRA, even though its usually 1-2 rounds less, it isn’t worth it when you figure all risk and rewards in. It isn’t just about money. Lord knows we don’t do it for money, but if IHRA would increase the purse substantially, it would bring a lot of cars over which would make the non-money reward greater also. IHRA has all the ingredients to take over sportsman racing besides the motivating factor to draw large car counts. That was my point. It wasn’t “rounds vs money is better in IHRA.” That goes away when more cars show.

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Hagen you are somewhat correct in that we havent been to many races recently, but way over exagerating the time frame. At the end of 2008 when the track here lost it's sanction & the closest IHRA race was near 350 miles we decided to quit just due to the time away from work. In short I'm not traveling for any race.

We have had all of our stuff for sale since early 2010 & sold most of it. With a race in our back yard again it was just too close to not put the car back together & go, maybe it'll help to sell it. Who knows, after a win we may go on & fix it & get to a few more races

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Ok, you went to Tulsa in 2007 and 2008 according to DRC. Other than that, you haven't been to a race outside of San Antonio since 2004. What I'm saying is that you can't say IHRA is a better value because you have no basis for judgment. That’s all, not bashing. Just saying you have no idea what is the overall better value when you figure in every aspect, monetary and emotional. So don't say my statement is the silliest thing you've ever heard. Its true, and obviously a lot of people agree with me. That’s why they choose to tow further for NHRA races. More value for their time/money. Obviously IHRA sees my point also, or they wouldn't be experimenting with the two big money races they are offering this year. I hope everyone floods these races and shows what a payout will do to attract cars.

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Great job Kirk good to see you and RJ again. Congrats to Cody and David as well. I can't make Dallas see you guys in Houston I hope. Ed

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Congrats to David and Kirk.
Wish I could of been there on Sat.
I had fun hanging out with the Fairlane bunch
and cooking burgers on Friday.

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My apologies to you Ed...I mis-understood what you were getting at with your comments. I met Ed Carpenter, and he set me straight on what your situation was. I thought you were taking a jab at me, and not speaking about your situation there. I wish you could've made it here (I know a few guys with Dave Latino being the most greatful of them all for showing up), because I had a lot of fun being here, and look forward to coming back again next year. It's been awhile since I was able to be online for a decent amount of time, so I'm getting caught up a bit, while still here in San Antonio vacationing with friends who live here. I hope you'll accept my apology, and we get a chance to meet sometime down the road...I feel I owe you a beer (your choice too)! :)

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It does not make you a bad person. Hope the glitch is gone. Safe trip and good luck. You truly are determined to race. 9 out and back !

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Just wanted to bring this thread to the top to give Hagen a chance to call out Blackmon for winning "only" $5,400 at San Antonio, and not the $5,500 he said he was going to make. I know, it's only $1,800 per round won, but... :rolleyes: I would've been happy to win a round this weekend, even if it didn't pay anything, let alone that. :p

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Yea, Mikey boy. Congrats to him for backing up the talk with facts. You must have been real anxious to shoot your mouth off about this one, cuz I checked the list this morning and it hadn't been posted yet. If you read (and comprehend) my previous post (#19), you will see that I said I could be wrong, but I didn't think he could claim $1,100 more than Mryon Piatek. So I was wrong. I don't claim to know everything (unlike You), but I'm going to go ahead and say that since he just threw the car together for a race close to home, he might not be claiming all that once proof of recent purchase is required. Things have changed since the last time they tried to collect.

BTW, It was $1,800 a round because nobody showed up. With the way IHRA runs "Stock", Now I see why.

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>> You must have been real anxious to shoot your mouth off about this one, cuz I checked the list this morning and it hadn't been posted yet.

I happened to check this afternoon when I was inbetween projects this afternoon. The information was there, so I posted it. I wasn't sitting on the page hitting refresh/reload constantly, and I'm going to be rational and civil enough to NOT assume that you were doing so this morning, either. Had it been there this morning and you had posted the information, for good or bad, I wouldn't have accused you of "shooting off your mouth."

>> If you read (and comprehend) my previous post (#19), you will see that I said I could be wrong, but I didn't think he could claim $1,100 more than Mryon Piatek. So I was wrong.

It wasn't about right or wrong to me. I thought your tone wasn't very civil, and I chose to give Blackmon a little due. Text doesn't carry emotion well, so if I misconstrued the feeling behind your posts, I apologize.

>> I don't claim to know everything (unlike You),

Where did that come from? The personal attacks are childish and unnecessary. I express opinions, like anybody else, and support those opinions with information. We can have differing opinions and agree to disagree without getting vehement.

>> BTW, It was $1,800 a round because nobody showed up.

Correct, which was my point: It was a high return on investment precisely because of the low car count. Is this good for the sport in the long-term? No. But short-term, gentlemen like Blackmon and Latino have certainly cashed in. The people staying home aren't helping themselves or the sport. Just my opinion.

>> With the way IHRA runs "Stock", Now I see why.

Please explain that assertion.

$.02,

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I guess I must have misinterpreted your tone.... right? Excuse me for saying so, but you have no business in the debate between Mr. Blackmon and me, but YOU chose to bring it back up to the top and "shoot off your mouth". I decided to challenge Mr. Blackmon on his 1 in 20 to win $6,000, and I proved half of it wrong. He came very close to getting to that $6,000 mark. I'll have to say, he was right on that, but from the info I was able to dig up, he wasn't getting there.... and he still might not. That’s between him and me. Not you, but you don't even give me one day to admit he was right. That’s where the "anxious to shoot your mouth off" comes in.

I guess his tone was the most civil thing you've read when he claimed that my post was the silliest thing he has ever heard. That’s the tone the debate was started in, so I continued it. Just like I'm continuing your tone here.

Me saying you believe you think you know everything just might be one of those side effects from you jumping in everyone's post and interjecting your "opinion". I apologize for that one, it was uncalled for.

On the IHRA thing. That’s in the works. I don't want some of the IHRA loyalist misreading my point and taking everything the wrong way like I believe you did on my last IHRA post. You interjected your opinion and took my thread in a totally different direction than I intended. I'm working on wording it so people don't get confused. Your gonna love this one. Don't believe you're going to get it, but you're going to love it.

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I had $2400 in reasons I wish I would've been alongside David Latino in that Stock final, because that's what I had a chance to get? However, even if I'd have garnerd a r.u. there I would've been thrilled with the $400 in contingency money plus whatever the r.u. payed...the best part having color photos of my car in action in the DRM publication to show my boss and my companies marketing manager for possible sponsorship opportunities??? More motivation for Salt Lake City.... :)

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Forget it Gary. No problem. I don't drink, might take a diet Pepsi if I get to meet you.
Take care, Ed

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You're on for the diet Pepsi, and you too on the other part... :)

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>> I apologize for that one, it was uncalled for.

Thank you. Truce.

>> On the IHRA thing. (...) Don't believe you're going to get it, but you're going to love it.

Someone already PM'd me about it.

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If you need a 8x10 of the starting line photo I posted
cheap, and it might help let me know.

I will have all the NJ photos posted this weekend.

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I wish I would've known that Sat. morning before I added $40 to my debt for the picture that I'm uploading from the other photographers that were there...great photo and frame, but I don't know about it being worth $40 (it was better than nothing though, which is why I bought it). Thanks anyway though....:)