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Peter Ash 03-23-2011 12:56 AM

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Dave Thomas from PA has become a Ramchargers guy and is the owner of this 2011 Drag Pak V-10 Challenger Number 2011012. It is just being finished at MPR Racecars before he goes to the track with it.

Roush did a nice job on it and like all of the 2011s they use MPR suspension kits and a Nine Inch axle. The Bogart wheels are the same as all of Bogarts welded R/Ts with a Mopar logo added to one of the spokes.

Just scaled, the chassis adjusted, a weight box added, a few other things and Dave can run it next week.

Peter

Andys dad 03-23-2011 01:09 AM

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Looks great

My hats off to Rousch Racing on ours for an extremely excellent - perfectly flawless assembly. The pant job is the best one I have ever had and I have had a lot of them from the very best - it is exquisite - this is worth every penny and then some - Thank YOU God

We had Phil Mandella add our weight box and fuel sample valve

We will be at Vegas with our #005 car this weekend

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...207765&theater

davidhuff 03-23-2011 02:06 AM

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Sure looks great.Congrats

Lew Silverman 03-23-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ash (Post 247939)
Dave Thomas from PA has become a Ramchargers guy and is the owner of this 2011 Drag Pak V-10 Challenger Number 2011012. It is just being finished at MPR Racecars before he goes to the track with it.

Roush did a nice job on it and like all of the 2011s they use MPR suspension kits and a Nine Inch axle. The Bogart wheels are the same as all of Bogarts welded R/Ts with a Mopar logo added to one of the spokes.

Just scaled, the chassis adjusted, a weight box added, a few other things and Dave can run it next week.

Peter

Shouldn't it have an 8 3/4 or a Dana 60? I thought the 9 inch was a Ford rear end.

Lew

Ed Wright 03-23-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 247954)
Shouldn't it have an 8 3/4 or a Dana 60? I thought the 9 inch was a Ford rear end.

Lew

You would think....

But you had better have your 9" Ford rear in an iron case, when installed in your Mustang. Right? :D

Greg Hill 03-23-2011 10:45 AM

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They let the Mustangs run powerglides so I guess anything is possible.

Ed Wright 03-23-2011 10:53 AM

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Forgot about that one, your right. Just as bogus.

dartman 03-23-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 248006)
They let the Mustangs run powerglides so I guess anything is possible.

It's not a powerglide,it's a c-2

Ed Fernandez 03-23-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 248005)
You would think....

But you had better have your 9" Ford rear in an iron case, when installed in your Mustang. Right? :D

And Robert Pond and Kenny Miele had to remove the rear end from their cars.

Quote Andy's dad:We had Phil Mandella add our weight box and fuel sample valve

What happened to the days of working on your car?

Jeff Lee 03-23-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 247940)
Looks great

My hats off to Rousch Racing on ours for an extremely excellent - perfectly flawless assembly. The pant job is the best one I have ever had and I have had a lot of them from the very best - it is exquisite - this is worth every penny and then some - Thank YOU God

We had Phil Mandella add our weight box and fuel sample valve

We will be at Vegas with our #005 car this weekend

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php...207765&theater

For us non FB subscribers (yes, not everyone on the planet is in that rabbit hole!) please provide a link.
Jeff

davidhuff 03-23-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 248068)
And Robert Pond and Kenny Miele had to remove the rear end from their cars.

Quote Andy's dad:We had Phil Mandella add our weight box and fuel sample valve

What happened to the days of working on your car?

Please ED, be nice to fellow racers because there are so few us that still love the sport of drag racing.

Ed Fernandez 03-23-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 248079)
Please ED, be nice to fellow racers because there are so few us that still love the sport of drag racing.

Don't any of these new car owners do ANY of the assembly work on these HP wonder cars?
Well I do know of one DP car that is complete and ready to test that was completely built
by a real master technician in a two car garage.***** even I put in my own fuel check valve,
two step and other parts.I even put the engine and trans after rebuilds in my driveway and I'm no mechanical wizard.That's the satisfaction I get of running a stocker,not reaching into my bank account and getting a cookie cutter stocker.But I guess to each his own.
David,the" so few us that still love the sport of drag racing" is getting to be a minority.I don't think they would take exception to my remarks.And if they do then so be it.

BlueOval Ralph 03-23-2011 04:25 PM

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It's a Ford-O-Matic they had a big deal as this was something new in 1959 my dad bought one with a 292 V-8 you could walk faster to 30 mph than it. And as I remeber the 2-speed in the Chrysler products were Powerfilte's


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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 248006)
They let the Mustangs run powerglides so I guess anything is possible.


davidhuff 03-23-2011 05:01 PM

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[QUOTE=Ed Fernandez;248084]Don't any of these new car owners do ANY of the assembly work on these HP wonder cars?
Well I do know of one DP car that is complete and ready to test that was completely built
by a real master technician in a two car garage.***** even I put in my own fuel check valve,
two step and other parts.I even put the engine and trans after rebuilds in my driveway and I'm no mechanical wizard.That's the satisfaction I get of running a stocker,not reaching into my bank account and getting a cookie cutter stocker.But I guess to each his own.
David,the" so few us that still love the sport of drag racing" is getting to be a minority.I don't think they would take exception to my remarks.And if they do then so be it.[/QUOTE I agree!

Andys dad 03-23-2011 05:06 PM

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OK I know you guys who have to sit at the kiddie table will jump on this

I work 50 to 60 hours a week - nights, weekends to earn the money - and I can choose to spend it anyway I want to

I consider that working on my car

Plus, the time is a big factor and my physical and health conditions prevent me from doing what I once did - did you ever think of that?

I relish the idea of beating the crap out of you whinners, who think less of me, because I can not do, what I once did with my hands, but I still can do with my mind

Enough said

novassdude 03-23-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 248085)
It's a Ford-O-Matic they had a big deal as this was something new in 1959 my dad bought one with a 292 V-8 you could walk faster to 30 mph than it. And as I remeber the 2-speed in the Chrysler products were Powerfilte's

I am curios if any one has worked on one of these transmissions from either the DP or the Mustang? Are they really different from the powerglide or are they using the majority of powerglide parts. If you order a converter is it a powerglide converter that just happens to fit these trannys?

Ed Fernandez 03-23-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 248102)
OK I know you guys who have to sit at the kiddie table will jump on this

I work 50 to 60 hours a week - nights, weekends to earn the money - and I can choose to spend it anyway I want to

I consider that working on my car

Plus, the time is a big factor and my physical and health conditions prevent me from doing what I once did - did you ever think of that?

I relish the idea of beating the crap out of you whinners, who think less of me, because I can not do, what I once did with my hands, but I still can do with my mind

Enough said

So what's wrong with letting someone do some of the work,like the fuel valve and weight
box in your garage with you supervising the work.I'm sorry to hear you can't physically do some of it yourself but wouldn't you feel more involved by supervising the finish work yourself?
I had an industrial accident in 1998 that left me with a broken L-5 vertebrae,my neurogolist told me I'd never be able to pick up more that 10-20 lbs.I hate when someone tells me I can't do something.I can pick up way more than that now.I'll be 66 next month and realise I don't have the stamina I used to have,but I'll be damned if I going to roll over and vegatate away.
Besides,you're only one of the large bunch who have these new cars.There's some out there who are healthy enough to do their cars,but they're either just shell out the money cause they can or don't have the skills to do the work and that's fine.My point is years ago the average S/SS racer didn't farm their cars out,they built them themselves.That is not the case anymore.

Andys dad 03-23-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 248120)
So what's wrong with letting someone do some of the work,like the fuel valve and weight
box in your garage with you supervising the work.I'm sorry to hear you can't physically do some of it yourself but wouldn't you feel more involved by supervising the finish work yourself?
I had an industrial accident in 1998 that left me with a broken L-5 vertebrae,my neurogolist told me I'd never be able to pick up more that 10-20 lbs.I hate when someone tells me I can't do something.I can pick up way more than that now.I'll be 66 next month and realise I don't have the stamina I used to have,but I'll be damned if I going to roll over and vegatate away.
Besides,you're only one of the large bunch who have these new cars.There's some out there who are healthy enough to do their cars,but they're either just shell out the money cause they can or don't have the skills to do the work and that's fine.My point is years ago the average S/SS racer didn't farm their cars out,they built them themselves.That is not the case anymore.

You are exactly right "years ago"

I would never assume to be able to supervise someone like Phil Mandella or any other craftsman

Why argue - I am not going to roll over and vegatate away as you put it

In case you have not noticed - I grew my replacement - and have not given up yet

He has college to finish right now

As a matter of fact I am sure I am still taking bigger risks than you ever have

I do not need to make excuses to someone like you who is so superior

davidhuff 03-23-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 248128)
You are exactly right "years ago"

I would never assume to be able to supervise someone like Phil Mandella or any other craftsman

Why argue - I am not going to roll over and vegatate away as you put it

In case you have not noticed - I grew my replacement - and have not given up yet

He has college to finish right now

As a matter of fact I am sure I am still taking bigger risks than you ever have

I do not need to make excuses to someone like you who is so superior

I think your new DP is great and I hope you really enjoy racing it.Congrats on one of the best looking DP I have ever seen.David

Ed Fernandez 03-23-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 248139)
I think your new DP is great and I hope you really enjoy racing it.Congrats on one of the best looking DP I have ever seen.David

xx

Ed Fernandez 03-23-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 248128)
You are exactly right "years ago"

I would never assume to be able to supervise someone like Phil Mandella or any other craftsman

Why argue - I am not going to roll over and vegatate away as you put it

In case you have not noticed - I grew my replacement - and have not given up yet

He has college to finish right now

As a matter of fact I am sure I am still taking bigger risks than you ever have

I do not need to make excuses to someone like you who is so superior

Ah well I guess you're going to join the class of elite snobs who can't take criticism.Good luck with your self proclaimed overpriced lump of metal and glass.Hope it didn't cut into your retirement nest egg to much.You can always make a car show queen out of it when the bug wears off
And if you bothered to really read and absorb what I posted you'll see I didn't say for you to have built the whole car.Just for you to do the final finishing touches.Your silly last sentence requires no consideration.
As far as risks,I can't imagine what that means.But if you indeed did risk retirement money into this bottomless pit then lots of luck.

Peter Ash 03-23-2011 09:18 PM

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Here we go again, lol!

Carl Weisinger 03-24-2011 12:02 AM

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Congratulations Dave. Hope you enjoy the car.

Are you keeping the "sports car"?

Best of Luck,
Carl

SSDA Hemi 03-24-2011 06:56 AM

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Back to the topic:

Is this the Dave Thomas from Wendys??

J/K! Dave, Good to see you back in a mopar! I can honestly say that with this new batch of Challengers, the factory is making it very hard to hate this late model stuff. Andys Dad, love the color and graphics, and the Ramcharger cars, When Peter Ash had it as his Avatar, my eyes nearly fell out squinting to see it !!

GOOD LUCK DAVE and hope you have the same success with the Challenger that you have with the 'vette!

Mack Reeves 03-24-2011 07:37 AM

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Congrats on the car Dave.... It looks great!!!!!! Good luck with it... Hope to see you at a track real soon.......

hemidup 03-24-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 248154)
Ah well I guess you're going to join the class of elite snobs who can't take criticism.Good luck with your self proclaimed overpriced lump of metal and glass.Hope it didn't cut into your retirement nest egg to much.You can always make a car show queen out of it when the bug wears off
And if you bothered to really read and absorb what I posted you'll see I didn't say for you to have built the whole car.Just for you to do the final finishing touches.Your silly last sentence requires no consideration.
As far as risks,I can't imagine what that means.But if you indeed did risk retirement money into this bottomless pit then lots of luck.

Please don't include me, (plus the many other DP owner's that actually work on and build their own cars) in your class of "elite snobs who can't take criticism." Yes, the combo's are under factored, but PLEASE give it a rest. Some of us hands on DP builder's are actually getting sick of your BS.

PS. Had a couple of brandy's after dinner tonight . ;)

Ed Fernandez 03-25-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hemidup (Post 248455)
Please don't include me, (plus the many other DP owner's that actually work on and build their own cars) in your class of "elite snobs who can't take criticism." Yes, the combo's are under factored, but PLEASE give it a rest. Some of us hands on DP builder's are actually getting sick of your BS.

PS. Had a couple of brandy's after dinner tonight . ;)

The one who has to come clean is NHRA and Chrysler/Fiat.You guys are OK.

stefan callender 03-26-2011 09:41 AM

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Congrats to my friend Dave Thomas, when Mopar was talking about this project, Dave told me, If they are building these Challengers, I want one.
Good luck in your new project, I know it will be fast, just like the Corvette.

Peter Ash 03-26-2011 11:46 PM

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Mmmmmmmm!:)

Andys dad 03-27-2011 09:01 AM

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Very nice - special memories for me

That is a real piece of history in more ways than one

The V10s are going to be historic cars

Ours ran great yesterday - once we got after it a little on the starting line

#5-12 V10 was #5 quailifier - what a coincidence

:-) peace

Frank Castros 03-27-2011 10:40 AM

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I can't think of another paint scheme that is so clean, simple, attractive and professional appearing.
Good luck to all.

goinbroke2 03-27-2011 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 248997)
I can't think of another paint scheme that is so clean, simple, attractive and professional appearing.
Good luck to all.

X2
Excellent paint scheme

Love the new Challengers....and I'm a die hard Ford guy! LOL! (obviously love the mustang just a liiiiiiitle bit more hehehe)


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