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I believe NHRA should get rid of the 1000' run slip readouts on all STK/SS runs. It would speed up the HP factoring and make all the 1000' dump racers work a little harder on figuring out what they "can" run. Your thoughts?

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Be careful. I've been saying this for a while but have been chastised for it.
It seems a lot on here want to change everything that does not effect them.

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I know you have Art; however I commend you for sticking to your guns. I race flat out, dial hard and make them earn it. Let everyone do the same.

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All it would do is slow the program down even more when they start dumping at the 1/8th mile. They'll still have plenty of incrementals to interpolate their 1/4-mile ET. Any bandaid fix you can come up with, whether it be no 1000' times or no reaction timers, is going to hurt the everyday racer a great deal more than the pro. If the suggestion is made in order to fix a problem with the AHFS, then go straight to the source and fix the AHFS rather than institute a bandaid fix that will generate unintended consequences.

$.02,

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I say we get rid of ALL the incrementals AND reaction times...lets make things as challenging as possible...

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Yeah thats the ticket.....X2

And how about a visual lane blocker from the 1000' to the finish, and instant green, Yeah now were talking! Now that would be a challenge!!

RJ

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Dan, that is exactly the right idea

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I remember those days. After a run.... i think i had a good light , no dude ,you were late, ya think ,i dont know maybe not....

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I'd say, get rid of Dan ...and all the drivers! Replace them with an NHRA approved robot.

Maybe China could provided us one for under 4K . That would be less than a good racing transmission or a set of "Stocker" cylinder heads.
Of course, you'd have to replace BOT BOY every two years...for safety of course.

Now, that would be fair.

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now your talking ! Id bet a lot couldnt find their azz with both hands if that was to happen !

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If it were in my power, I would base the factoring off of 1/8 mile ET's and eliminate reaction times. Reaction times serve an important role though and that is for a racer to see and do the math on how he won or lost. Although it's possible to dump before the 1/8 mile, it would produce erratic results IMO, Paul.

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I'm with Dan! I've thought that for a long time but didn't have the nerve to say it. LOL!

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100% with Dan, I have been saying this for years, believe it or not i was racing before RT's and back then you knew if you got a light or not, you didn't need the ticket to scare you. At nat trails we paid $1 for RT's the first year.

Best line I ever heard about RT's was from my father, he said
"RT's made the good drivers back in the day back off and the bad drivers step way up"

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LOL... Brer Rabbit! :cool:

MAAAAAYbe back in the day, but the genie is out of the bottle. Unless they're changing the rollout between rounds, the good drivers would absolutely destroy everyone with nothing but an E.T. They know how to adjust, and they know how to drive the stripe. Joe Average that's just hanging on is a sitting duck.

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Just think how much less stressful life would be at Fletchburg racing. You wouldn't have to obsess for hours why your car was off by .002 in a certain incremental time. You'd be able to relax with a Michelob Ultra and enjoy yourself for a change! LOL

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I concur, lets return to E.T., MPH and win/lose time slips. Remember that some of us raced for many years without incremental times. The only way you had positive confirmation of a good leave was winning a heads-up race while posting a slower E.T. Uh-oh, I guess that's heresy; giving value to a heads-up race. If the skill gulf between touring drivers and the remainder of us is as great as some have indicated, why would any below that elite level ever enter a race competitively?

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Giving data to the racers also acts as a checksum on the timing system. Racers can catch errors or anomolies that race officials might never see. Even though such errors they are infrequent, they do happen, whether its a hanging stage beam or an errant piece of debris blowing through the finish line beam.

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If we got rid of time slips all together, imagine how much ink and paper we could save. Wouldn't you guys like to save a tree?

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Something like this?
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...945/002-10.jpg
Maybe they could dress up Trickey Ricky Stewart in white pants and shirt and dump the straw hat for a white Stroker McGurk
peacap,waving his flag.

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I remember those days Ed. A hand written time slip with ET,MPH and with R/T`s during time trials only. During elims,no R/T`s until the final. A lot of racers today wouldn`t know how to dial a car with that little info in the middle of elims. Oh yeah,no weather station/ET predictors either. Maybe a cheap temp gauge in the pits was all you had. Was a lot more simple back then.

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I'm with Dan! I am a so-called average racer/driver and if my odds of winning go from say 15% to 10% because of this change go for it!!!

I personally think my odds would increase not decrease! IMO.

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Yes, let's eliminate ET and MPH as well.


-Toby

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Way to go Toby.Let's get rid of the cars too while were at it.How many of you guys could physically run a 1/4 mile?
I'm definitely past that point in time.

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I think we should all leave the race cars at home and go to the track with lawn chairs and beer. This whole idea is F***ING stupid.

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SERIOUSLY!!! How much more enjoyable it would be to just put an et and mph in the book. Talk about making life easier for those of us with OCD. Please, take the gun out of my hand...LOL...

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I still think it's a good idea.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dan fletcher
i say we get rid of all the incrementals and reaction times...lets make things as challenging as possible...


And Instant green to go with it!

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Thats already been done, he was built in an east coast warehouse by a man named Sam. Goes by the name Peter.

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Can you all spell "PINKS". LMAO!

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Yeah, really!

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That guy Sam built two models.The prototype was called Sal.Not too shabby.

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Not a Mic Ultra How about some Sailor Jerry. Come on man.

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We could pair up and stand at the starting line and flip a coin. That would solve the noise problem.

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Unfortunately we have not been attracting enough new young racers.

Let's try a Le Mans Start:

Stage Driver and park Race Car at 60' Line with engine off.

It seems most of good drivers are at least 30+........Heck a lot of the best ones are 50+. This system would let the kids be immediately competitive from first race and handicap everyone as they got older and more experienced.

If anyone is old enough to remember..... their was an Article in Car Craft in Early 70's about Los Angeles Street Racers that talked about me foot racing for a $1000. (I was 300 LB. + then)

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Did you get a break of the Keds?Did you win?

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Always won......Because I could figure out how exactly how many car lengths I needed. No help from Keds but got paid every time from "Fruit of Loom" due to positioning of trousers at Finish Like...... Contingency Sticker always in full View!

Sure Miss those Days.

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How about get rid of the incrementals and just go Heads up !
No more shoepolish ! Case Closed lol.

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My best racing years were without all the extra times and reaction times . Had a lot of W's on them hand written time slips like Ed showed.......

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OK.....Use cubic inch to factory shipping wts. If its blown or has a turbo just DOUBLE the cu. inches used to figure the class. Yeah.....the new Mustangs will run at 662 cu. inch factor and the V-10 DP can run at 512 per cube. Anything goes inside as long as it P&G's correctly so you dont have to tear down as long as it looks stock like in the F.A.S.T. Muscel car races. Stock is almost there already. Sounds about right to me....lol.