NHRA Auxiliary Pit Vehicle Policy - Is this new?
So I log onto the NHRA National Event Entry website today, and I'm presented with the message below in a pop-up window that I must accept to continue. Now, I know that NHRA had a policy regarding pit vehicles, but I don't remember there being a $1,500 fine per occurrence for violation of the policy. This also seems to be much more wide ranging and specific than previously.
Is this something new, or did I miss something? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is in the best interests of the sport, racers, sponsors, fans and vendors to reduce and better control auxiliary pit vehicles. Therefore, the following apply: --------------------------------------------------------- PENALITIES FOR VIOLATION OF AUXILIARY PIT VEHICLE POLICY --------------------------------------------------------- � THERE IS A $1,500 FINE PER OCCURRENCE FOR VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY � YOUR VEHICLE MAY BE IMPOUNDED � YOUR PERMIT MAY BE REVOKED � OTHER PENALTIES DEEMED APPROPRIATE MAY BE IMPOSED --------------------------------------------------------- AUXILIARY PIT VEHICLE OPERATING RULES --------------------------------------------------------- • Pedestrians have the right-of-way. Be observant and courteous at all times. • Auxiliary pit vehicles may be used for necessary transportation only. • No Joyriding, cruising, or recreational riding. • Use perimeter roadways and avoid high-traffic areas, such as the Pro pits and Manufacturers Midway, unless absolutely necessary to do otherwise. • The maximum speed limit is 15 mph or lower where posted. • Must be at least 16 years old and have a valid state driver�s license. • Never operate any vehicle while impaired by alcohol, drugs, medication or injury. • Never transport passengers whose judgment may be impaired. • Obey traffic signage, directions, signals and instructions by officials, security and/or law enforcement officials. • Each passenger must have an OEM seat and remain seated while vehicle is moving. No passenger overloading. No passengers sitting in a backwards position on the front cowling, riding on front dashes of golf carts or on ATV handlebars. • Never operate any vehicle without proper authorization, at excessive speed, recklessly or without due consideration to pedestrians. • No parking in pedestrian traffic areas or where parking would create an obstacle. • Must display current year valid pit vehicle sticker at all times. Any stickers from previous seasons must be removed. • Pit vehicles operated after dusk/sunset must have a working headlight. Taillights may also be required on an individual basis depending upon vehicle design. • All vehicles must be operated according to manufacturer and applicable industry specifications regarding seating capacity and operating controls. It is the owner�s and operator�s responsibility to be familiar with such specifications. • Owners and Operators specifically ASSUME ALL RISKS of any type regarding the operation of any auxiliary pit vehicle. • Report all incidents/crashes involving the vehicle to NHRA Official or Security and/or law enforcement officials. REPORT CRASHES/INCIDENTS REQUIRING MEDICAL ATTENTION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS IMMEDIATELY. • AUXILIARY PIT VEHICLE OWNER/OPERATOR (hereinafter �LICENSEE�) UNDERSTANDS, ACKNOWLEDGES AND AGREES that all auxiliary pit vehicles operated at any NHRA event, regardless of ownership, must be registered with NHRA. LICENSEE FURTHER UNDERSTANDS, ACKNOWLEDGES, AND AGREES that Licensee assumes and shall be responsible for the risk of loss to Licensee, its invitees, NHRA, track owners and operators, racing participants, and each of their respective officers, owners, officials, sponsors, contractors, employees and agents from the acts or omissions of Licensee, its invitees and guests with respect to Licensee�s use of any vehicle at any NHRA event, including without limitation the operation of an auxiliary pit vehicle by Licensee and/or its invitees. Licensee shall maintain its own comprehensive general liability insurance. LICENSEE FUTHER AGREES to indemnify and hold harmless the Released Parties as to all lawsuits, claims, damages, costs and attorneys� fees, including claims as to Released Parties� sole or contributory negligence, arising out of or related to Licensee�s auxiliary pit vehicle being on site at the event. |
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Hey Jason.............how about the Rental Carts !!
Had to check off on, just to see the entry page !! They just suck ! And wasn't one of the largest crimes committed on a cart by a racer, was at Joliet nat. event and by a Pro Stock team !! Rick |
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Jason, these races are very serious events,you are not there to have fun. Some days a sportsman racer can make up to four runs in ONE day, how could anyone be bored enough to feel the need to wander around on their deadly scooter when they may have spent up to forty seconds on the race track that day ! D-bag rule makers .
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I hear it in the distance: cha ching,Cha ching,Cha Ching,CHA CHING.It's the NHRA money train.
They need cash to buy the extra clean up equipment to speed up the show. You don't think Compton and Co is going to reach in their own pockets to buy the extra equipment do you? |
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Does ANYBODY understand the last paragraph? Jim
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Jim--basically it says the operator of the PV is financially/legally responsible for any problems caused by the operation of the PV---It goes on to say that the operator agrees to hold harmless(NOT SUE) NHRA any sponsors dadada!!! comp
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Thanks. I ain't no atornee. Jim
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Did you happen to notice that with all the "new" equipment purchased, there was NOTHING mentioned about the PEOPLE it will take to operate said equipment. I thought they were operating bare bones as it is.
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Does this pertain to bicycles too?
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Bare Bones ? yea thats why they hired 2 Lawyers.
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How do you get this permit. Do you have to have it at Division races too?
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$1500 fine? Isn't that what NHRA pays for a win in Stock at a National event?
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I like how it says "Auxiliary Pit Bikes are to stay away from high traffic area's such as the Pro Pits and Manufacter Midway" Hmmm I wonder if John Force takes off from his trailer and loses control of his bike and takes out 3 or 4 spectators if he will get fined? Prob Not they will just find the closest sportsman guy and fine them for something they didn't do.
Prices raised for entry to National Events, If you Oildown the track twice you get fined, If you ride your pit bike to fast or in the wrong area you get fined.....Hmmm when does it not become FUN anymore??? |
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Glad I walk at the track. ('cept when I bum a ride with the Legend!) :cool: I need the exercise anyway. |
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Pit vehicle accidents are by far the most common cause of claims against NHRA's liability insurance, their underwriters have noticed, and their premiums have gone up and they have probably been threatened with non-renewal unless the risk is addressed. No insurance, no drag racing - it's that simple.
I bring a bicycle to divisional and national events and it does not count as a pit vehicle. It looks like an ATV convention at most races and an underwriter walking in from the parking lot would see all the zipping around close to walking spectators and crewmembers and run screaming into the night...right after he dropped off the cancellation notice at the tower. Those are the facts from an insurance guy's perspective. Racers refuse to downsize their pit vehicles or get control of their underage drivers, so NHRA's insurers are doing it for you. |
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If any of you guys have seen the Pro Stock teams and Pro Stock Bike Teams coming
down the return road at Sonoma threw the pits at 40+ mph you would be laughing at this crap right now !! |
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Same here on the East coast.And they have an attitude about it too.The lead vehicle is usually an NHRA official also.
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I want to apply for the job: Paul Blart Track Cop!!!
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Nobody is totally self-insured for the tens of millions in liability potential from a single quadriplegic pit accident (or whatever) victim. There is an excess policy somewhere, I'm sure, probably through Lloyd's or possibly a U.S. surplus lines carrier.
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This is the second time you've tried to confuse us with the facts-those damn facts get in the way of our biases, so quit it! |
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Since we were just enhanced with a increase in insurance costs for the national events you would think that would cover the pit bikes.
OH, I forgot this is NHRA. No Happy Racers Allowed is what it stands for. My 2 Cents Rick Cates |
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1. To enjoy myself. I don't enjoy riding a bicycle, and if I did, I wouldn't be at the races...I'd be somewhere else riding my bike. 2. To race my car (see #1). That's it. IMHO, NHRA is the one who caused this problem. As somebody else mentioned, they park us sometimes LITERALLY more than a mile away from the starting line and where all the vendors / utilities / officials, etc. are located. Maybe instead of restricting what the RACERS can do, maybe we could restrict what the FANS do. There's a novel idea, huh? Rather than making the pits one big freaking free-for-all, how about painting some lines on the freaking ground telling fans, "Walk here", and "No admittance", like on the return road. I'm not saying you need to remove fans from the pits completely, but how about just a few restrictions for them? I realize that one of the draws for fans to NHRA races is the unrestricted access to the pits, but maybe the other racing bodies (i.e. NASCAR, IndyCar, etc.) got it right. Their competitors don't have to deal with the clusterfornicate that we do that is called trying to get around the pit areas without killing somebody. Plus, I ask you, how am I supposed to go get 5 gallons of fuel or water for my race car on a bicycle? I would have to guess that riding my ATV responsibly with a 5 gallon jug of liquid is safer than trying to ride a bike doing the same thing. Put some signs up, paint some lines on the ground, and put a rent-a-cop or two in strategic locations to keep fans from going in those dangerous areas (e.g. the return road where the fuelers are returning from their run at 50 mph), and we can probably avoid this situation altogether. My guess is that even the pros would appreciate this. NHRA can suck it. |
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I got hasseled at the Summit Nationals in Norwalk last year. I was riding my bike with my sticker. If I would have had a scooter the cops said I could ride it as long as I had my sticker. Who knows what is going on?
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In years past I have been to lots of NHRA nationals and there are tracks (more than one) who do not allow bicycles to be ridden into the staging lanes. Not sure about where you can not take a bike now but there are restrictions by track.
Scooters and golf carts and all kinds of utility 4 wheelers but not a bike. Go Figure. Rick Cates |
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So is it 1500$ per incident? If your caught cruising with a Bud Light is it 3000?
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NHRA has excess liability insurance coverage thru Wells Fargo Motorsports a division of Wells Fargo Insurance---they handle the liability and probably lay a portion of it off to other insurance companies however they I'm sure will not share any of that info aboutwho the other carriers are--Comp
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Don't laugh Daran.Here in the Socialist State of NJ you can get a DUI on a bicycle at the track.
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If I won the mega million or power ball for a ton of money Id buy both IHRA and NHRA, get rid of the Pro's except for maybe Pro Stock. Trash the alky cars and all the circus acts including the heads up motorcycle stuff. Then get Travis Miller and Dave Ley plus a few from IHRA to run it for me while I sat up in the tower and drank beer (or whatever) with Keith and a few others.....LOL. I would call it the RHRA.....Racers Hot Rod Association.
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Better snag Wesley too.
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It says right there in their rules that you can't give any of NHRA's upper management a ride.
"Never transport passengers whose judgment may be impaired". Jerry |
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