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It looks like 3.25% for the '09 5.7 Drag Pak and the '10 5.4 CJ Tuesday.

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lovin every minute of it

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Hi Larry, Xmas early!

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Like me loosing ten lbs, not near enough.

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Ya, uh if your talkn about Lynch's run dont forget boys
Vegas is not going to get you HP !!

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Altitude factored track?

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Yes, Vegas is an altitude factored track. You must run 1.25 under the sea level index to get 3.25% on Tuesday.

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Runs of 1.250 or more under the index will be reviewed and adjusted Tuesday following the event. Runs at National Events, Divisional Events, and National Open Events, including those at altitude factored race tracks, are included in the 1.250-second-or-more-under analysis. This is done to better react to any out-of-line indexes or under-horsepowered combinations. Therefore, at all such events, a 3.25 percent horsepower adjustment or index reduction will be initiated Tuesday following the event. The decision to adjust horsepower or to reduce the index will be at the discretion of the NHRA Tech Department

I think they changed the wording this year but the way I read it 1.25 under gets you HP at Vegas or any altitude track.
-Matt

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Nope.. Been there ,done that, this year... Also ,McClanahan's run at Fallon got him hp ,by accident...Since rescinded.

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Mark we will know Tuesday.

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Won't make any difference if it is 50 lbs over C/SA weight as Toby reported.

It will still make B/SA and will not have to change the weight

:-) peace

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Grossi went 1.251 under at Vegas Jan a year ago and got 9 HP.

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Mark Yacavone, it still shows McClanahan 2002 Pontiac Firebird got hp. on 7/10/10. Tom

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Frank ran an 8.997 which was 1.403 under the sea level index. It was 1.663 under the altitude adjusted index. 1.4 under the index received automatic HP last year.


-Toby

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Well, if it's true they can't get it any lighter, it will be a C only car next year because you can't weigh more than the minimum for the next heavier class. Once they get some more HP it won't be a problem though.


-Toby

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That is what I am saying Toby

Give it 20 HP and it is a "B" car and it is already the correct weight

If it does not get HP- it moves down to "C" and will be an even faster "C" car to the index

Complicated sometimes to figure out what should be done

Of course I am hoping for a couple of FX classes with one for V10s only - LOL

:-) peace

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The 12 HP that the LS1 received was returned, its back to 342 for the ram air/ss hood combo. However, it was not because it was at a factored track. It clearly states in the new rules that factored tracks are included in the instant hit when going 1.25 or more under. The LS1 was singled out when it was given the 12 HP (there were several other cars that went more than 1.25 under and did not get HP) This was pointed out and presented to the committee.

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Okay, whatever the reasoning behind it, no cars got hp this year for running 1.25 under a factored index. I was one, Byron Setters, Angelo Phillips and a couple more.
Seeing it's still the same year, I wouldn't expect to see it happen.
Next year , with a revised or rewritten rule and a prominent warning, it probably WILL happen.
Then again, who knows?

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Did Roy Hill receive h.p. last Tues.?

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For those who don't know...(not you Sean)

Yes, his combo is now 534 as of 11/2.

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This was just pointed out to me by someone else.
So again, what we have is NHRA operating with NO consistency ,NO rhyme or reason, NO plan, and doing what they want, when they want.

What a way to run a business ...

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Yep, and Im pretty sure thats why they added this last sentence to the AHFS rules.
So does the AHFS mean anything when they pull that crap ?? NOT !!

The decision to adjust horsepower or to reduce the index will be at the discretion of the NHRA Tech Department.

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5.7 L Dodge is now at 372 as of 11/9/10

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Discretion
–noun
1. The quality of being discreet; circumspection. See Synonyms at prudence.
2. Ability or power to decide responsibly.
3. Freedom to act or judge on one's own: All the decisions were left to our discretion.

Big word. Lots of meaning.

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5.7 = A natural "A" car now with the automatic. Who's going to be the first to put a stick in one and go 9's in F/S? LOL

Looks like the SCJ only needs one more hit before it's in SS/AA only.

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Teuton.

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With Kevin Helms driving maybe?

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Stick shift under construction, plus our new AA/SA Challenger.

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Well let's see. 67 Hp since Bristol. Looks like a working system to me. Maybe some more in Pamona?

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No the system isn't working
Not even close yet
But then you knew that didn't ya Jeff....

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See, there ya go. When there's no accountability, there's no consistency with these guys.

They must like lawsuits or something.
I'm just a layman ,but it seems like a slam dunk to me.

What about it, Jared?

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Are you saying .......

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Almost half way there already, right Jeff? :-)

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If anybody is thinking about a lawsuit remember I got 13 HP at once 152 HP originally added 13 HP to 165HP in one shot.

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15 for the '10 CJ and 12 for the '09 DP 5.7. What will be fun is the new 5.0 CJ.

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If NHRA changed the AHFS part way thru this year and didn't info the stock/superstock folks then there is room to complain, but tell me that the cars that recieved HP in Vegas this past weekend have to much power on them now. I DON'T THINK SO, they could get another 3.25 and still be at the top so quit cryin and take your HIT. You may have to open the throttle more than 50% or remove a couple hundred pounds.

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Seem's the focus on the new DP's have been with the 5.7 combo. Any new's on the 6.1 Hemi combo?

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A little math: The 372 hp 5.7 is now a natural A car as a 2009. As a 2010 it is a natural B car. I don't think they can get to the minimum in A (3146) but they can get to the max using next years rules @ 3330, which is also the minimum for B or add another 185 or so, claim a 2010 and run C @ a little over 3500 lbs. Look for the 392 6.4 to appear @ 375 hp; same motor, 2 pts less compression, but 47 more cid. It's gonna be a long year next year. And of course there is always the new car that is official.

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Jeff, You're on the sportsman racer advisory council, i heard they are going to change the auto. hp. hit to 1.0 under? all runs count. Tom

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Not very likely that it would go anywhere. When the Pro Stock Trucks got thrown out the class as a whole was shut down and all of a sudden guys that spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on their racing operations had a pile of junk. THOSE GUYS had some damages to complain about.

Stock/SS? Not so much. No the playing field isn't level....yet, but we all still have a place to race. The most any of us would probably be damaged is a couple hundred bucks for low qualifier and class winner. Even that is speculative.

In any event, NHRA would be able to argue they're taking measures to remedy the problem (67 hp in 7 months is good evidence of that IMO).