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1 5333 SS/AA Randy Hopkins, Scandia MN, '10 Mustang 8.473 9.70 -1.227


Wow. Only .3 better than the next qualifier and .25 better than any SS/AA car has ever gone (factored #'s excluded).

Underrated? Naaaah.

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Gotta love them Fords. I wonder if I can get an "A" plan or some other plan on one of those cars from work. I could put a trailer hitch on my Buick and use that as a tow vehicle.

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So, Fezell just went 39 at E-town. # 1. Whats new ? Change that, now 9.37
Now here is a car I can respect,
2 1134 B/SA Tom Kreeber, Rensselaer NY, '62 Fury 10.139 11.25 -1.111

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Did he pull the chute?

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I guess C.W. is glad that the Mustangs dont get to run his class.

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its official, the Hemi cars aren't king anymore.................................add some more people with VERY expensive race cars to the PISSED OFF list, but at least they don't have to run them heads up.

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The question of the day is does the SS/AA have the correct cage?????????

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8.47 eh!
Got to have a SFI 25-5 cage for quicker than 8.50.

Ask Bo Butner....got a year off for that.

FJ

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With nearly a 20 mph headwind as well - just wait until tomorrow morning to really see what it will run. From what I remember, it looked like an 8.50 cage and not a 25.5.

Tim

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Jason Fuller's post was removed because it was obscene. Enough said!

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If your that worried about the cage, why don't you check it out personally. You seem to be an expert on everything else.

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Thank you Bruce.

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My thanks also......

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So that little engine is making like 900 plus horsepower.

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It is probably closer to a 1000HP. The classification guide lists the coupe at 500HP with a shipping weight of 3220 lbs which gives it a factor of 6.44 making it a natural SS/A or SS/AA car (6.00 - 6.49). In order to run at the class minimum, 220 lbs would have to be removed from the car. Assuming that it was possible to do so, Hopkins would be at the same weight (3000 lbs) as the SS/AH cars. His ETs and speeds are pretty much equal to what a Westcott or Barton powered SS/AH will run, and I am pretty sure that they are right around 1000HP.

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The CJ in SS/AA trim has to weigh the same as a 4-speed SS/AH (3170) and is 40 lbs lighter than the automatic SS/AH (3210). In SS/BA the CJ weighs 3420, or the same as the Hemi B-Bodies.

The scary thing is that we still don't know how fast those cars can really be. Yeah, we've all got a pretty good idea, but what happens when one of those cars is back-halved and they can really lean on them in the first 100 feet of the racetrack? I have no idea what the 1st gear ratio is in those C2 transmissions, but all those cars look pretty lazy leaving the starting line in comparison to, say, Armstrong's Vette or Percy's Savoy.

One more thing: you think they've got the throttle blade all the way open? I don't...

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Will Jamie and Jesse issue a recal and update the 2010 or the 2008?

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Don't you mean got the throttle blade's all the way open?

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I didn't add in the 170 lbs. for the driver (3170), so our math is basically the same. I have heard that they run the throttle blades only 56% open. Wow!!

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Randy is tearing down for the record at earlville right now and not running first round. Tom

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So is this car a SFI 25-5 car or not? (would be an awful lot of work since Indy)

Don't know how the record could stand if it isn't.

Seems as though somebody really dropped the ball with these cars from the start....

Ford for knowingly sending them out with 1000+ HP and not sufficient chassis and NHRA for grossly underestimating the HP and thus their capabilities.

And all this in conditions that appear not much different than Indy.......wait 'till they get to good air.

FJ

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I think they threw out the run of 8.47, he ran 8.50`s two times for the record, this is what i heard? if he gets to keep the record i`m not sure. Tom

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I just noticed the pics of his car...are those nine or ten in tires on the back?

This is obscene! Going faster than a SS/AH CAR? ON A LIGHT LAUNCH? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

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Respecting the fact that you are chassis builder, I can see the SFI cage issue, but not having sufficient chassis, I have to disagree. There are lots of Mustangs running in the NMRA and NMCA classes in the 7's with small tires and the same type of suspension.

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Respecting the fact that you are chassis builder, I can see the SFI cage issue, but not having sufficient chassis, I have to disagree. There are lots of Mustangs running in the NMRA and NMCA classes in the 7's with small tires and the same type of suspension.

Now this is a strech NHRA doe's not make chassis rules, they pass all the blame to SFI and when you read the rule book it say's must meet SFI Spec so & so (wheels. chassis, belts' firesuits' helments and on and on). What NMRA & NMCA doe's doesn't have any impact on what NHRA doe's or has to meet. Yuall complained when IMPACT and SFI had their Tuff several months ago? but in the end SFI won. This will be what happens with NHRA, SFI will have finally say so!!! Don't forget that NHRA CANNOT afford to get on bad side of SFI as they also set the standards for Funny Car, Top Fuel, Pro Stock and all classes. Just what would happen if SFI pulls all NHRA cert's no body could race as NHRA could get Insurance to put on the meets.

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First, SSDIV6, the specs called for are called SFI 25-5 chassis specs. Look it up.

Secondly, the pics and a record statement are on Drag Race Central at 8.47 and definately no Funny Car cage so DEFINATELY no 25-5 spec chassis tag.

Don't know why we have rules if NHRA doesn't take action on this.

FJ

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dear lord that was hard to read

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I think Hopkins has it "in" for the Hemi boys. Only 331 cubic inches.

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im curious what 60 ft times this car runs ,this is unreal ,and there is more tweaking to get more i would imagine

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Would you feel the same if the badging on the grill or fenderwell was GM, or Chevrolet :rolleyes:

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What several racers seem to forget is it was the racing series like the NMRA, NMCA, and World Ford Events held in St Louis that brought about the need for new chassis certs. I dont quite understand a 280-290" Comp Eliminator car or SS/GT car at 2900-3100lbs needing 33x16" slicks, when a SBF with a Turbo and 2000HP can do it on true 10.5's :D

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Consistency, for breakout racing.

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Hey, Yankee, doesn't matter what kind of car it is.

For your information, I sat on the SFI committee that made these specs. Had nothing to do with NMCA etc.
At the time it had more to do with fast NHRA and IHRA modified cars and a need for a spec. In fact my personal Grand Am was used for ideas to write the 25-5 spec.

The point is, these cars are way too fast for a regular cage and should not be running this fast without the correct spec chassis.

The rules are specific and this shouldn't have happened.

FJ

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I watch those some. A lot of them can't make to to the finish line 3 out of 5 passes.

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And a lot of them are either slammed into the guard rail or on the roof. Sometimes both.

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My point exactly....but that's just to obscene...what a joke!

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Yet, another point I conveyed earlier......

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Amazing car. Alot of us saw the car in Brainerd and knew Randy was working on getting the car to 60ft with a "powerglide 1.80". Looked ar his timeslip and watched the run...1.22 60ft and out and back in the groove...159mph on the chip for awhile. Most figured 8.39 at 160 plus. Factory stuff.

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GEEE WIZZZ, now some of you super stock guys can start to feel the pain that the stocker guys have been feelin lately, and don't just think this is only going to affect SS/AA, there are some other combo's that can fit nicely in some of the slower classes too. When these new cars hit stock some were saying well it doesn't affect me it only affects AA and A, well guess again!!!!

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A 1.22 60 ft.? Holy crap! I might need to re-think going to a PG,err, C2, or was that a C3PO?

Jay