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In Stock at Indy the #127 qualifier is -.744 -- the #128 qualifier is -.744 and the first non-qualifier ( Dan Fletcher ) is also -.744 -- anyone know how this works ? Who gets picked ? Is it speed? Or is it who went first ?Or who has the shinyist car? Or ...............

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Jack,
My understanding is in qualifying it is the 1st car that runs that number, so Fletch likes to be the last one down the track, this may cost him, but I doubt it because there will be some alternates racing tomorrow.

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Alternates ? Do you know something you'd like to share ? Inquiring minds ................

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Bob- Broken motors stay on the ladder ................Barn is another story.....maybe Fletch has a chance ! !

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There should be some brought up from the DNQ list due to a few broken motors
during quail and maybe some from who dont make it through the Barn Correct??

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Jack,

I think you are right , it is speed when you have the same ET..
Unless they have changed it in the last 5-10 years, it was based on MPH in Div. & Nationals .... But I do agree with Bob, there willl be a couple of move-ups based on the Barn ....

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I don't think it could be speed. The higher class car would always have the advantage. It is speed in the heads-up Pro ranks, but first to run the number is first in for Sportsman.

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Jack. Alternates are called for no-shows (broken etc)

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It is determined by who ran the number first. If 2 cars go down the track and both run identically under the one the got there first would be higher on the ladder.

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Artie -- I believe Alternates are only used for replacing contestants that are tossed - once a racer is qualified he ( or she ) stays in ..............

OK - this is a test -- everyone get out their Rulebooks please ( And use the "East Coast" version thank you ) .

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Thats what I thought !!! We have not seen a full field plus alternates all season and in a normal full field there would be no alternates so everything stay's the same...

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This issue popped up at a national event several years ago. We were told the computer in the tower read ET's to .0000 - I believe that is one ten thousandth of a second..

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I lost a race in S/C up at Lebanon Valley in 2004 that was shown as a .0006 MOV a few years ago.......so I agree the computer goes out to .0000. I ran 8.90 and so did my opponent....he got there first by .0006....

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Fletch is in..
Larry Hill lost a motor.


Hammer

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They don't go to the ten-thousandth. The first -.744 is first, second second and so on! The computer puts them down in the order they are run.

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The way it has been done in the past at Indy was there are no singles first round. If there is a no-show they will fill it with an alternate and yes the first one that went .744 under gets that spot, that is how it's done in the sportman classes, at least in Stock and Super Stock.

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Correct, and I believe as a alternate you can win the money, but no points are awarded.

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I'm confused,who's on first,what's on second,i don't know,third base.So many different answers.

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I believe it was at Las Vegas in 2005 or maybe 2003. The nhra guys produced a print out that showed the winner by .0003. They may not use it for qualifing.

Alternates race for the dough; no points.

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LOL

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Could only find my "west coast version", IE...second Vegas Nat 2009, over a 128 field, 2 cars no show for Rd 1 and 129 and 130 came in and replaced them in the broke car spot.

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Also, there's no rhyme or reason on how they insert the alternates. Whatever no-show they happen to notice first they go to the first alternate, if they're not there they go to the next alternate etc...

So, as an alternate you could possibly be inserted into a heads-up situation. If you know that one of the no-shows could mean a heads-up race for you, you might want to make yourself "unavailable" while they're looking to fill that spot -- provided there are other spots available.

I know I know, everybody loves to race heads-up, but if you're an alternate I doubt you would want to race a qualified car heads-up especially when you're not hopped up.


-Toby

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I just took a look-see at the sheets. The first person does get the higher spot on the sheet.

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Evan, I believe you get the round points less 20 , because you don't receive the qualifying 30 but you get the 10 show up points.

Greg

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I'll bet these two guys could make the AHFS work better than the current crew.

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Good point Toby, But if it were me and I traveled a thousand miles and ended up
in a heads up alternate in the first round we all know stranger things could happen at the starting line also lol, I would still take my chances any day then be put on the trailer because of the wacked out HP on these new Hot Rods its BS.