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Travis Miller 06-15-2010 04:10 PM

2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
The 2010 Camaro is now posted in the NHRA Class Guide for Stock and S/S.

http://www.nhra.net/tech_specs/classification/classfiles/2010CHEV.xls

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Jack Matyas 06-15-2010 04:38 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Travis -- None of this make sense but it looks defactored ------ but surely not enough -- 376 HP is a tough crowd to hang out with -- looks like 9.45 will be a B@8.5 - 3366 LBS
C@9 - 3554 LBS
D@9.5 - 3742 LBS

Oh boy -- 'gotta go run down to the Chevy garage and get me one ...............

W J 06-15-2010 05:33 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Well, at least they're finally in the book and maybe some will be making appearances before seasons' end......nice... WJ

Ed Wright 06-15-2010 05:35 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 192587)
Travis -- None of this make sense but it looks defactored ------ but surely not enough -- 376 HP is a tough crowd to hang out with -- looks like 9.45 will be a B@8.5 - 3366 LBS
C@9 - 3554 LBS
D@9.5 - 3742 LBS

Oh boy -- 'gotta go run down to the Chevy garage and get me one ...............

Which engine Jack? The automatic cars come with an L99, the stick cars with an LS3.

Alan Roehrich 06-15-2010 05:40 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Somehow I just don't see anyone killing themselves to go out and pony up $50K+ to get one of these to the track. Not unless GM is going to pony up some help. Some serious help.

1299 06-15-2010 05:48 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
ha jack maybe i miss something but that look like 400 in auto and 426 in stick??
so auto would be 400 X 9 +170 =3770 yes??

Travis Miller 06-15-2010 05:48 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
The horsepower is 400 for the automatic and 426 for the manual. Cubic inch is 376.

400 X 8.5 + 170 = 3570 B/SA
400 X 9.0 + 170 = 3770 C/SA
400 X 9.5 + 170 = 3970 D/SA

426 X 8.5 + 170 = 3791 B/S
426 X 9.0 + 170 = 4004 C/S
426 X 9.5 + 170 = 4217 D/S

Travis

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1299 06-15-2010 05:50 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
so i did not miss something ok

W J 06-15-2010 05:52 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Also: Convertible is rolling off line real soon......By the way, did they factor the 2010 V-6 Camaro model? Supposed to be a potentially strong motor.....WJ

Jack Matyas 06-15-2010 06:25 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 192611)
Which engine Jack? The automatic cars come with an L99, the stick cars with an LS3.

I used the L99 as an example ...........

Jack Matyas 06-15-2010 06:29 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Miller (Post 192619)
The horsepower is 400 for the automatic and 426 for the manual. Cubic inch is 376.

400 X 8.5 + 170 = 3570 B/SA
400 X 9.0 + 170 = 3770 C/SA
400 X 9.5 + 170 = 3970 D/SA

426 X 8.5 + 170 = 3791 B/S
426 X 9.0 + 170 = 4004 C/S
426 X 9.5 + 170 = 4217 D/S

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

Travis -- I read it as they were defactored as they usually put the HP on top not the CID -- 400 HP carrying 3970 LBS -- don't think we'll be seeing too many ..........

Alan Roehrich 06-15-2010 06:37 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Looks like it needs 8 lug axles and spindles. :cool:

Rich Biebel 06-15-2010 06:40 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Maybe they could make a "Camaro Drag Pak" version

Shed about 500-700lbs and drop the HP by about 100.....and add a Tunnel Ram Intake with a carbon hood and a big fresh air opening....

or maybe a blower.......or a hairdryer.....

Just havin some fun here men.......

Chris1529 06-15-2010 07:20 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 192631)
Looks like it needs 8 lug axles and spindles. :cool:

I like that!

Jack Matyas 06-15-2010 07:50 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 192631)
Looks like it needs 8 lug axles and spindles. :cool:

Alan - It could be the 2010 version of the "Black Widow" ...................

Alan Roehrich 06-15-2010 07:58 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 192642)
Alan - It could be the 2010 version of the "Black Widow" ...................

Black Widow? Jeez you're old! :D

Ed Carpenter 06-15-2010 09:36 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Stick car at 4200 lbs isn't going to happen. Nobody is going to build a car like that. Hell where is my dad's 427 biscayne at. It's lighter than that.

Ed Fernandez 06-15-2010 10:53 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Let them lighten it up,fudge the HP,have NHRA add 2 F/X classes and let them pummel themselves into oblivion.Bring on the show.

Geerhead55 06-15-2010 11:08 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
What about the independent rear suspension? Are they going to be allowed to swap it out in stock?
Danny Durham

Bunkster 06-16-2010 12:12 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 192658)
Stick car at 4200 lbs isn't going to happen. Nobody is going to build a car like that.....

Oh....yeah....it has, and can happen again.

http://image.highperformancepontiac...._Side_View.jpg

Michael Beard 06-16-2010 07:18 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
All steel, runs 8.70's....

http://www.beaversprings.com/index.811.jpg

W J 06-16-2010 07:25 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
A number of the 5th gen "body in white" cars are out there....is this a Top Sportsman car, or??? WJ

X-TECH MAN 06-16-2010 07:48 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 192674)
What about the independent rear suspension? Are they going to be allowed to swap it out in stock?
Danny Durham

Anything is allowed these days. Just look at the DP cars....they dont even come with a rear assembly.

X-TECH MAN 06-16-2010 07:50 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunkster (Post 192686)
Oh....yeah....it has, and can happen again.

http://image.highperformancepontiac...._Side_View.jpg

And it was one bad hot rod in its day. Won several national events and I remember it only breaking a trans once and that was "BJ" ("Before Jericos")

Michael Beard 06-16-2010 08:23 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by W J (Post 192713)
A number of the 5th gen "body in white" cars are out there....is this a Top Sportsman car, or??? WJ

Tube chassis bracket car. He had ordered a body in white, but the delivery date kept getting pushed back, so he bought all of the parts separate. Here's some of the story and buildup pics.
http://www.zoocrewracing.net/newage/...eno=2&pageno=3

Lew Silverman 06-16-2010 08:57 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
The Classification Guide lists one model - SS (Super Sport) and one engine! There couldn't have been a whole lot of thought put into this - did they scale a car right off the assembly line to come up with that weight?:mad:

It kind of makes you wonder if GM even cares if anyone races a new Camaro or not!

Lew

Alan Roehrich 06-16-2010 09:08 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Sure, it can happen, and it happened back then, but why would it happen now? Other than someone who is loaded and will pay whatever it costs to build a "new Camaro", because they just have to have one, who even wants it? Relatively slow, heavy, and no real advantage to the HP factor, it doesn't inspire anyone to go spend big bucks to have one. The Mustang and the Challenger have it covered easy. Where's the incentive?

W J 06-16-2010 10:24 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Once things are sorted out, and with some fair classification for ALL the new Camaro models/combo's, I think you'll see a good amount of the 5th gen Camaros running in Stock and Superstock classes. The heavier convertible models could also end up ok, as well as the V-6 models in stock classes. Body-in-White-built cars will show up and be impressive, especially in Superstock. Another positive--- it's new and needed work for racecar fabricators and engine builders.... Some have been chomping at the bit to get these cars in the guide...Chevy finally has a new dog in the hunt and everyone's wondering if it'll be a good hunter, or just a plain dog....well, they've been pretty good hunters in the past, so let's see what they've got this time around....Soon they will be raced---just like all the other new cars we're seeing trackside, pricey or not..... Actually looking forward to their appearance at coming events, just like many others here as well. Good luck to anyone putting one of these cars together....This is my .02 cents only.... WJ

X-TECH MAN 06-16-2010 10:39 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by W J (Post 192746)
Once things are sorted out, and with some fair classification for ALL the new Camaro models/combo's, I think you'll see a good amount of the 5th gen Camaros running in Stock and Superstock classes. The heavier convertible models could also end up ok, as well as the V-6 models in stock classes. Body-in-White-built cars will show up and be impressive, especially in Superstock. Another positive--- it's new and needed work for racecar and engine builders.... Chevy finally has a new dog in the hunt and everyone's wondering if it'll be a good hunter, or just a plain dog....well, they've been pretty good hunters in the past, so let's see what they've got this time around....Soon they will be raced---just like all the other new cars we're seeing trackside, pricey or not..... Actually looking forward to their appearance at coming events, just like many others here as well. Good luck to anyone putting one of these cars together....This is my .02 cents only.... WJ

They couldnt cost more than a fast SS/AH hemi car.....could they?

W J 06-16-2010 10:51 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 192750)
They couldnt cost more than a fast SS/AH hemi car.....could they?

Terry, Yes, the Mopar SS/AH cars are "off the chart" to build and keep running, just as the 427 Fairlane Thunderbolts, but it also seems to take WELL over $100K to put a good Challenger DP stocker, or Mustang CJ stock or superstock car on the starting line these days, as well. (and maybe a certain few 427 '69 Camaros and Corvettes, too!) Time will tell how much $$ and effort it'll take to make the 5th gen Camaro go fast.....:D WJ

Clay Arnett 06-16-2010 11:29 AM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
GM submitted a real production car to the guide. What a novel idea!

Ed Wright 06-16-2010 01:16 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
GM should have asked ford or Mopar how to submit a new car.

sscrewcheif 06-17-2010 12:20 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
well guess we will be selling a 2010 body in white (gray)

Greg Hill 06-17-2010 03:35 PM

Re: 2010 Camaro now in NHRA Class Guide
 
Out of all the new cars it's the only one you can walk into a dealership and drive home. It's the only one that has the correct shipping weight and the only one that has a SAE net horsepower rating. Based on these three things it doesn't look competitive with the other new cars. However, we can only hope for crate motors.


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