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Paul Ceasrine 04-24-2010 08:20 AM

Musclecars That Should Have Been Made
 
1967 Chevelle Malibu SS427
A L-72 427/425HP engine.
That would have been 'one sweet combo' for the street.
Paul

Dennis P Chapman 04-24-2010 08:29 AM

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I had 67 chevelle ss convert with 427/435 vette engine in it fun car to drive.

Floyd Gomez 04-24-2010 08:37 AM

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67 Chevy II with the 427/435hp aluminum head 4spd. Now that would have made some serious cash on the street.

Ron E 04-24-2010 08:47 AM

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440 6-pack Darts would have been a piece of cake. Engine cradles, exhaust manifolds, radiators, etc. already existed.
Or, to avoid burned plug wires, they could have used a hemi instead.

Oh well, at least we eventually got the K-car.

Jeff Niceswanger 04-24-2010 08:54 AM

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Paul, I Know for a fact there was a 66 SS Chevelle in our town(Zanesville Ohio) with a factory 427 in it. I was always told it was a 425 horse, and they made like 1100 of them. I don't know that for a fact, but it did have SS 427 Badgeing in the grill and the finders. The guys name was Rambo. It was silver with black interier and a 4 speed.

Bruce Witherspoon 04-24-2010 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 183850)
Paul, I Know for a fact there was a 66 SS Chevelle in our town(Zanesville Ohio) with a factory 427 in it. I was always told it was a 425 horse, and they made like 1100 of them. I don't know that for a fact, but it did have SS 427 Badgeing in the grill and the finders. The guys name was Rambo. It was silver with black interier and a 4 speed.

Jeff, I remember a similar all black 66 here in Michigan. I saw it being delivered to the dealership when my father was having service done on our car.

MYRONARL1119 04-24-2010 09:42 AM

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Since I have a soft spot for the early 1975-1980 Chevy Monza, I think that the 350 4 barrel should have been an available option with factory 4 speed and 1 gear overdrive. Know that the 1975 smogger was in Calif as the 262 would not meet pollution specs...so I don't know why they didn't stick a quadrajet on it and sell it everywhere. Would have one quick little sleeper. Not to mention a damned good class car.

Greg Reimer 7376 04-24-2010 09:56 AM

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64-65 Chevelle Malibu or 300 post car with a 409/425,4 speed,3.73 posi 12 bolt.

Alex Denysenko 04-24-2010 09:59 AM

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Here a good one that should have been built.

67 Shelby Mustang GT-500
428 CID
Single 4V 850 Holley with aluminum intake
428 CJ heads
Solid lifter cam
:p

427_ED 04-24-2010 10:12 AM

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1965 Nova with a 327/375hp Corvette fuel injection combination.

Paul Ceasrine 04-24-2010 10:50 AM

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I've heard about the 66' Chevelle SS427, but never saw one.
Would have been classed in A/S in 66'. But never seen any results of one campaigning in that class.
Here's one that almost got done. A very-late project for 1967. 1967 Plymouth Barracuda/Dodge Dart with a 383/343HP dual-quad Carter-carbed set-up, just like the 62' 383/343HP combo. Unfortunately, the exhaust manifold problem could not be remedied, restricting exhaust flow. Not a bad combo for a 3150lb. car on the street/strip.
Car would have fit nicely in C/SA for 1968, when the wt/hp breaks got straightened out.
Paul,,,,,,,Keep them coming, great wish list!

CaptCobrajet 04-24-2010 11:43 AM

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'67-68 Mustang Fastback with a 2x4 Cammer FE. Enough units for Stock and Super Stock. That would just about do it for me.

Chad Rhodes 04-24-2010 11:55 AM

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68 vette with the 2x4 302 motor. that would have been a super fun car

dakota tom 04-24-2010 12:31 PM

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S/C 401 Hornet

I've thought of a 409 '64 Chevelle also.

I think it was Norms that put together 440 Darts for public sale.

W J 04-24-2010 01:06 PM

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2002 Camaro coupe and convertible w/Corvette "LS" Zo6 motor......both available w/a HD automatic trans, and a good 12 bolt rear, the coupe 3200 raceweight, and the convert 3400....... WJ

danny waters sr 04-24-2010 01:08 PM

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70 SSChevelle Station Wagon call it a "so mad " 2-door 454/450 .4 speed. git ya some o dat.

Alan Roehrich 04-24-2010 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptCobrajet (Post 183867)
'67-68 Mustang Fastback with a 2x4 Cammer FE. Enough units for Stock and Super Stock. That would just about do it for me.

At least it'd be interesting to see them try to get it in between the shock towers.

W J 04-24-2010 01:21 PM

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1964 Chevelle with the '64 Corvette 327, 365 HP option, 12 bolt rear, available in ALL models......:cool: WJ

W J 04-24-2010 01:45 PM

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Let's also add the 1964 Chevy Nova, ALL models, available w/the 327, solid lifter, Holley equipped, 365 HP '64 Corvette engine combo.....;) WJ

Alan Roehrich 04-24-2010 02:04 PM

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A lot of the neat ones, such as a 440 six pack Dart, and a 64/65 Chevelle 409, have already been mentioned.

Instead of trying to shoehorn the SOHC 427 in a Mustang, put it in a "taxi cab" trim version of the 67 Fairlane.

Or a Falcon with a 427 Tunnel port.

1969 Chevelle, 427/430 with aluminum heads.

1970 GM X body cars from all Buick, Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac (yeah, they didn't all have X body cars in 1970), with the top of the line 454/455 engines from the appropriate manufacturer, in "stripper" trim, with rubber mats, light seats, no air, etc. A Stage I 455 Apollo? A 455 Ventura? A W-30 Omega? Cheap, unusual, and quick. Real sleepers, too.

The 70 1/2 Camaro with the 454 LS-6 (and make the LS-6 available across the board with the L-89 aluminum head option).

For something bizarre but fun, a real hot rod 292 version of the GM OHC 6 cylinder, with a 3x2 carburetor setup and a 4 speed, in something light, say a 66-67 Chevy II.

The 67 Z28 302, in a 67 Chevy II.

Two Q-Jets on a high compression 500 Cadillac with a big cam, in a Coupe de Ville, with a switch pitch 400 turbo, and a 4.11 gear.

A 409/425 in a 64 Chevy C-10 short bed step side, sort of like the "wannabe" 1990 454 SS pick up, but with a REAL hot rod engine.

A 350 TPI from an 87 Camaro, in an 87 Monte Carlo SS, with a 5 speed.

danny waters sr 04-24-2010 02:15 PM

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Just thought of another one. A 71 Comet with a 429 loaded. A shame they only made the Comets with 2 bbl carb only .

Paul Ceasrine 04-24-2010 02:26 PM

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Too bad the guys on this thread didn't work for the manufacturers.
Man, you guys could have put out some "BAD" machines.

WJ, Seems you're partial to the 64' models.

Nobody mentioned a 65' Buick Gran Sport, equipped with the Buick Riviera 425/360HP dual-quad. A 'Granny Grocery-Getter'.

That 68' Vette with a 302 dual-quad/cross-ram. A nice combo.
Paul

Jeff Lee 04-24-2010 03:12 PM

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1965 442 with the 425 Toronado "Ultra High Compression" 370 HP engine with W-30 upgrade. Call it 385 HP.

1970-1971 Maverick / Comet with 302W 4bbl instead of 2bbl. Maybe even the Shelby GT-350 351W engine or Boss 302 in the 1970 model. How about a Boss 351 in the '71 models?

'69 AMX with Superstock cross-ram 390 engine. 1970 also since AMC wanted (and tried) to get away with it.

'71 - '74 Gremlin and Hornet 401.

Mopar 6-packs in anything they fit in in the years offered.
Same with the Z-28 302's & even LT-1, any model for years offered. If it fit under the hood, it was good!

Boss 429 F-100 in 1969-1970.

greg fulk 04-24-2010 03:16 PM

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how about a 63 Belair with a 327/375 FI? or better still a 63 Chevy II with that engine? I like the 68 or 69 corvette with the 302 also ;)

greg fulk 04-24-2010 03:19 PM

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I just thought of another one that would have added some punch to the 74 line up...74 Nova with the Corvette 454 (yea I know it was a turd but in 74....thing would have been bad!)

Billy Nees 04-24-2010 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 183857)
64-65 Chevelle Malibu or 300 post car with a 409/425,4 speed,3.73 posi 12 bolt.

Would somebody please correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember reading years ago about a run of 1964 Malibu SS hardtops (200 cars?) with 409/340 engines and all were Powerglides.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 04-24-2010 04:06 PM

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i wish they had a put a 427 tunnel port in the 66-67 Fairlane . :D

jasondearduff 04-24-2010 04:27 PM

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how about a ls6 70 camaro. should have been a no brainer?

Paul Ceasrine 04-24-2010 05:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen & Horace Johnson (Post 183903)
i wish they had a put a 427 tunnel port in the 66-67 Fairlane . :D

That would have been one sweet ride.

Or the 1966 Pontiac GTO, since the 421 was still being installed in the larger vehicles, a nice retro-version of the 63' HO 421/405HP dual-carbed
12.0-1 compression engine in the 66' GTO.
Paul

Jeff Colvert 04-24-2010 05:51 PM

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67 Mustang 427 Med. Riser 2 4v crab intake 4 speed.
70 Mavrick Boss 302 4 speed.

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

W J 04-24-2010 09:08 PM

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2010 Chevrolet Cobalt coupe. 2,500 unit-build, street legal, rear wheel drive model w/HD 12 bolt rear, HD auto or 6 speed, ZR-1 Corvette powered, 2900 shipping weight......to compete w/the CJ and DP cars......:eek: WJ

nhramnl 04-24-2010 09:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Witherspoon (Post 183851)
Jeff, I remember a similar all black 66 here in Michigan. I saw it being delivered to the dealership when my father was having service done on our car.

There were factory-built L72 Chevelles and Camaros back in the late 60s. They were the COPO (Central Office Production Order) cars, and they're worth a ton. GM executives and certain performance-focused GM Dealers were allowed to place these special orders. That's where the ZL-1 1969 Camaros came from; they were all COPOs.

treessavoy 04-25-2010 12:07 AM

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71 Demon with a 440 bottom and a max wedge top just like Mopar planned.

67-71 Mopar A body with street Hemi.

65-66 Mustang Fastback with a 427/425 Hi riser.

70 LS 7 in the Corvette.

73 455SD in the Tempest.

64-65 Valiant with the Hyper Pak Slant Six and 4 speed.

70 Nova with LS1...from the factory.

JimR

Mark Yacavone 04-25-2010 02:06 AM

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74 GTO with a bolt in SD 455 , tugboat bumpers and all..

X-TECH MAN 04-25-2010 08:54 AM

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Since AMC is now considered a MoPar how about a race HEMI Pacer.....lol.

Paul Ceasrine 04-25-2010 08:10 PM

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X-Tech,
A Hemi Pacer. Would love to see the Super/Stock springs work on the
egg-shaped car!

Someone mentioned the 70 AMX. A softer version of the S/S package.
The 390 with the new 70' Dog-leg style exhaust port heads, with
Mopar 440 valves. 11.0-1 compression, solid-lifter cam .(485 lift),
an aluminum dual-plane high-rise, and 750cfm Holley.
A nice HP-rating of say 360-370 (D/S or SS/G)
Paul

danny waters sr 04-25-2010 09:54 PM

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Ok ,heres more . Vega with the 454/450. and a pinto with the BOSS 429. oh how bout a Chevette with the 454 also just for the AMC egg fans. lol

Chris "drooze" Wertman 04-25-2010 10:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by W J (Post 183948)
2010 Chevrolet Cobalt coupe. 2,500 unit-build, street legal, rear wheel drive model w/HD 12 bolt rear, HD auto or 6 speed, ZR-1 Corvette powered, 2900 shipping weight......to compete w/the CJ and DP cars......:eek: WJ

Thats got even me drooling.......I can sport a bowtie....

bill dedman 04-25-2010 11:53 PM

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1964 Plymouth Valiant 2-door "post" with a '64 Stage III Wedge and a 727....

mopar68 04-26-2010 05:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 183840)
1967 Chevelle Malibu SS427
A L-72 427/425HP engine.
That would have been 'one sweet combo' for the street.
Paul

Yeah, that would've been great, Paul, but as we all know, GM had that IDIOTIC anti-racing ban in effect that limited the cubic inches (400 cu. in. max) in the very popular mid-size supercars up 'til the Fall of 1969 when the new '70 models came out with the mega-cube big-blocks.

The ruling only effected the drag strip and not the street, where more than a few street Chevelle SS's had a 427 swapped in place of the factory 396 of whatever version that was originally in there.

M68


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