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Chad Rhodes 03-26-2010 02:16 PM

Impact Racing
 
"March, 2010

March 26, 2010 - NOTICE OF DECERTIFICATION; NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST AND TERMINATION OF ALL CONTRACTS OF PARTICIPATION ISSUED TO IMPACT RACING

SFI Foundation, Inc., has issued a Notice of Decertification; Notice of Cease and Desist, and a notice terminating all Contracts of Participation to Impact Racing. Effective April 27, 2010, all products manufactured and/or distributed by Impact Racing pursuant to SFI Specification Programs 3.2A, 3.3, 16.1, and 16.5 are decertified. Evidence obtained by SFI shows that over a period of years Impact Racing has engaged in the production and use of counterfeit SFI conformance labels and patches, and affixed them to Impact products for use in motorsports. Under the Contracts of Participation between SFI and Impact, SFI conformance labels and patches may only be obtained from SFI and no other source. Evidence shows that Impact had counterfeit SFI labels and patches made in Asia and then affixed them to Impact products it distributed to members of the racing community. To SFI’s knowledge, Impact never advised its customers that its products contained phony SFI labels and patches. Impact never advised SFI of its systematic and longstanding practice of counterfeiting and distributing SFI patches and labeling.

Impact has been directed to cease and desist from this practice. SFI has directed Impact to immediately notify all affected customers to remove the counterfeit labeling and to offer the affected customers a full refund of the purchase price. SFI is requesting that all counterfeit conformance labels removed from Impact products be sent to SFI.

SFI has elected not to decertify these products immediately in order to minimize the potential hardships to members of the racing community that have been brought about by Impact’s counterfeiting activities.

SFI has also elected to terminate all Contracts of Participation with Impact Racing effective 90 days from March 24, 2010. Under the terms of the Contracts, either party may terminate the agreements without penalty upon 90 days notice. This means that Impact will no longer be able to participate in any SFI programs after this 90 day period.

SFI has taken these actions in the best interests of the safety and integrity of the racing community. This is in keeping with SFI’s mission and purpose."

Ed Fernandez 03-26-2010 02:47 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
This is a pretty sad commentary on where we've come to as a society.Simpson was pretty much the leader in safety equipment to the racing industry.If the info is correct these
people should be jailed.This is peoples lives they are playing with just for a buck.
I guess anyone with their products are in the market for new safety equipment.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 03-26-2010 03:23 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Indeed sad, Im glad, after last year and seeing certain products decertifed on SFI website of theirs I choose to stay away from them.

Good info thanks for posting it here.

I would ask for my Money back from Impact AND if you bought it at Summit, attempt to return it explaining you bought it thinking it was a KOSHER Item and now SFI Is saying its not. Summit may let you return the stuff.

Explain how it reflects badly on them for selling it to you, etc....Ive seen summit take returns on things that shocked me, why not this ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 177611)
"March, 2010

March 26, 2010 - NOTICE OF DECERTIFICATION; NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST AND TERMINATION OF ALL CONTRACTS OF PARTICIPATION ISSUED TO IMPACT RACING

SFI Foundation, Inc., has issued a Notice of Decertification; Notice of Cease and Desist, and a notice terminating all Contracts of Participation to Impact Racing. Effective April 27, 2010, all products manufactured and/or distributed by Impact Racing pursuant to SFI Specification Programs 3.2A, 3.3, 16.1, and 16.5 are decertified. Evidence obtained by SFI shows that over a period of years Impact Racing has engaged in the production and use of counterfeit SFI conformance labels and patches, and affixed them to Impact products for use in motorsports. Under the Contracts of Participation between SFI and Impact, SFI conformance labels and patches may only be obtained from SFI and no other source. Evidence shows that Impact had counterfeit SFI labels and patches made in Asia and then affixed them to Impact products it distributed to members of the racing community. To SFI’s knowledge, Impact never advised its customers that its products contained phony SFI labels and patches. Impact never advised SFI of its systematic and longstanding practice of counterfeiting and distributing SFI patches and labeling.

Impact has been directed to cease and desist from this practice. SFI has directed Impact to immediately notify all affected customers to remove the counterfeit labeling and to offer the affected customers a full refund of the purchase price. SFI is requesting that all counterfeit conformance labels removed from Impact products be sent to SFI.

SFI has elected not to decertify these products immediately in order to minimize the potential hardships to members of the racing community that have been brought about by Impact’s counterfeiting activities.

SFI has also elected to terminate all Contracts of Participation with Impact Racing effective 90 days from March 24, 2010. Under the terms of the Contracts, either party may terminate the agreements without penalty upon 90 days notice. This means that Impact will no longer be able to participate in any SFI programs after this 90 day period.

SFI has taken these actions in the best interests of the safety and integrity of the racing community. This is in keeping with SFI’s mission and purpose."


Jim Kaekel 03-26-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Ironically, owner of Impact Racing, Bill Simpson, was recently inducted into the International Drag Racing Hall of Fame. Take a look at Impact's home page.

http://www.impactraceproducts.com/

top452 03-26-2010 03:42 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
How about the 3.2a/5 ?

mannymen 03-26-2010 03:45 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
What does this mean for current impact belt users? I just had mine recertified 2 weeks ago.

Jim Kaekel 03-26-2010 03:52 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
SFI has elected not to decertify these products immediately in order to minimize the potential hardships to members of the racing community that have been brought about by Impact’s counterfeiting activities. - Quoted from SFI web site.

jmarkaudio 03-26-2010 03:56 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Those SFI numbers are for ALL seat belts, arm restraints, and all 3.2A/1, 3.2A/5, and 3.2A15 jackets pants or suits. Recerts are junk as well after 90 days. Wonder how much money will have to change hands for this to go away...

top452 03-26-2010 04:08 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Is it strickly on the recerts. Mine were new last July

Rick Blake 03-26-2010 04:15 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Well, I just hung up with Impact Racing whom stated this is now in their attorney's hands and to expect a statement to be released some time next week....

stay tuned....

It is my understanding this relates to all of Impact's SFI rated safety products.....Helmets are not SFI rated, they are Snell rated.

BOO BOO 03-26-2010 05:09 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Great news I just got my belts back late yesturday. Will they be good for Indy? Do we just change them and be over with it? How long to re-pay everybody if guilty?
Chuck Siegler
2007 Div3.
s/g Champ

7820 03-26-2010 05:52 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
There is NO IF GUILTY!!! SFI has finished up their investigation and stated that Impact is using bogus SFI labels.

Impact..now there is a company that does not give a tinker darn about racers safety.

Rob Petrie E395 03-26-2010 07:03 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
I could be wrong but was it not Impact that SFI busted with pants and jackets that were not made to SFI specs a year or two ago? If so you would think they would be carefull after that mess.

casper 03-26-2010 07:37 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
So... in real world terms, how long can a person use the said bogus safety items ? 90 days from today ? or ? ... This should get interesting. I will probably get my refund about the same time Barry Grant pays out on the class action suit.

Floyd Gomez 03-26-2010 07:58 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
http://www.meetthegrants.com/images/RedneckTimeOut.jpg

IMPACT research and development department!!!!!!!!!!:D

Floyd Gomez 03-26-2010 08:04 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
http://www.vfwpost7392.org/humor/redneck%20skier.jpg

IMPACT recirtification test!!!!:D

Floyd Gomez 03-26-2010 08:15 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffar....pobj.MINI.jpg

IMPACT overseas SFI sticker department!!!:eek:

Stick Racing 03-26-2010 08:19 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Didn't he resign as head of Simpson Racing about the time Earnhardt died in the crash at Daytona? Something about his belts cut/broke?

____________________________

Andy Stone 1102 A/S 1112 SS/C

JP 03-27-2010 12:56 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
As I understand is this for all mentioned products all years. Not only recerts.
Time for you guys to look for new gear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by top452 (Post 177636)
Is it strickly on the recerts. Mine were new last July


james schaechter 03-27-2010 07:05 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
I think they need to take the person or persons responsible for this and let them live and die with their own decision that they forced on unsuspecting racers that trusted them with their safety. Have them strap in their own harnesses and be crash test dummys, until they fail. That would be a good SFI test for the money grubbers.

C and W Racing 03-27-2010 07:54 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
The way I read that story, it has nothing to do with the quality of the product, but everything to do with the stickers. SFI sells the patches, decals, etc to the manufacturer's. So by impact having there own made, SFI is not getting anything. We all know that those stickers are not sold to them at cost, I'm sure that they have some sort of fee's attached. That being said, what impact has done is deceitful and was all done in order to allow them to make more profit.
Chuck

DIAPERMAN 03-27-2010 09:02 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
For our 7.2 SFI diapers they make you put 2 on the diaper at $ 3.oo each

FED 387 03-27-2010 10:10 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
For what its worth EVERY/ANY PRODUCT manufactured or distributed with an IMPACT label on it is no longer eligible to be recertified and as of April 27 2010 will nt be accepted by the racing organizations as a SFI eligible/accepted safety item--- NOTHING IS EXEMPT --shoes/gloves/helmets/suits /jackets/pants/belts etc.--- NOTHING the entire IMPACTproduct line is affected per SFI---Friend of mine just got a letter from SFI to that effect----SFI is suggesting you might want to go back to IMPACT or your place of purchase for a refund---Comp387

njk53 03-27-2010 10:15 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Regarding Dale Earnhart, Simpson was not found liable for anything. Earnhardt was warned for years by Simpson and other people he was using the seat belts incorrectly and stated that they wouldn't be liable if he continued to do so. He was notorious for wearing his sholder harness loose also. Teresa Earnhart received $0.00 from their lawsuit of Simpson. I am really surprised Impact would take such a risk in using bogus SFI labels.

Ron Zenzen 5402 03-27-2010 11:41 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Maybe I missed something, but what is NHRA 's stand on this?

Ed Fernandez 03-27-2010 12:41 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Zenzen 5402 (Post 177801)
Maybe I missed something, but what is NHRA 's stand on this?

Until their lawyers speak they're standing there with their fingers up their you know what.
There should be a criminal prosecution started in this case.

Ron Zenzen 5402 03-27-2010 12:58 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Agree with that. What a deal for all the racers!!

et7333 03-27-2010 01:10 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Posted on Impacts Web Site 3-26-2010 Quote

"SFI has posted on the internet an announcement that effective April 27 our products will be decertified. Impact is legally challenging this proposed action by SFI. Impact strongly disagrees with the statements on SFI's website. This is a dispute over SFI tags. Our products are certified. They are safe and we stand behind them."

http://www.impactraceproducts.com/

Floyd Gomez 03-27-2010 02:46 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
I have an IMPACT helment. According to Summit tech, they will not refund my money nor take the helment back. I have to deal with Impact.

Rick Blake 03-27-2010 03:45 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez (Post 177842)
I have an IMPACT helment. According to Summit tech, they will not refund my money nor take the helment back. I have to deal with Impact.

I guess I am not understanding the statements that Impact Helmets are impacted....???? They are Snell Rated not SFI rated and SFI has nothing to do with Snell.

Maybe someone could try and clarify this....??????

DIAPERMAN 03-27-2010 04:45 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
I think you are correct on that I hope so I just paid 750.00 for a Impact helmet

Floyd Gomez 03-27-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
My helmet has an SFI rating of 31.2A also has a snell. If NHRA bans Impact items I don't think it will matter.

Tony Curcio 03-27-2010 08:21 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
It was announced several times at Cecil County this morning that racers have 90 days to replace all SFI rated Impact products: belts, jackets, pants, gloves, arm restraints etc.

They also said helmets do not have to be replaced. As stated above, helmets are Snell rated, not SFI

Hokes Racing 03-28-2010 06:55 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Curcio (Post 177930)
It was announced several times at Cecil County this morning that racers have 90 days to replace all SFI rated Impact products: belts, jackets, pants, gloves, arm restraints etc.

They also said helmets do not have to be replaced. As stated above, helmets are Snell rated, not SFI


If they did this to the belts, jackets, pants, gloves, arm restraints etc why would you not thing they didnot do the same thing to the helmets. I think i read somewere they had fake hans hooks on there helmets last year also

Rick Blake 03-28-2010 08:21 PM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hokes Racing (Post 178132)
If they did this to the belts, jackets, pants, gloves, arm restraints etc why would you not thing they didnot do the same thing to the helmets. I think i read somewere they had fake hans hooks on there helmets last year also

As stated before I believe and have heard it is due the the helmets having the "Snell" rating.....now is that label counterfeit :confused:

JP 03-29-2010 12:40 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
A SNELL helmet with built-in SFI head sock from Impact will not be approved.

Hagen Gary 03-29-2010 10:54 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Am I missing something here??
As far as I know, Impact is a outstanding safty equipment manufacturer.
Doesn't all their equipment pass the SFI test?
Is this just a misunderstanding about legitimate/illegitimate tags?
All we own is Impact because it fits well, looks good and is allmost inexpensive. Don't they pay you when you win? on time? You can even send in a competitors belts and get new Impact ones for a steal. All I'm sayin is we are now on page 4 of mostly people bashing a brand that should be highly respected, and needs our support. Or do you want them to go away to be replaced by a brand that might not do as much for you..the sportsman

I'll wait for NHRA's stand I guess. Surely they can't ban all Impact equipment. Thats gonna be a hard lick. Belts, pants, jacket and helmet. On two cars.

BlueOval Ralph 03-29-2010 11:06 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
This COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAID BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary (Post 178266)
Am I missing something here??
As far as I know, Impact is a outstanding safty equipment manufacturer.
Doesn't all their equipment pass the SFI test?
Is this just a misunderstanding about legitimate/illegitimate tags?
All we own is Impact because it fits well, looks good and is allmost inexpensive. Don't they pay you when you win? on time? You can even send in a competitors belts and get new Impact ones for a steal. All I'm sayin is we are now on page 4 of mostly people bashing a brand that should be highly respected, and needs our support. Or do you want them to go away to be replaced by a brand that might not do as much for you..the sportsman

I'll wait for NHRA's stand I guess. Surely they can't ban all Impact equipment. Thats gonna be a hard lick. Belts, pants, jacket and helmet. On two cars.


Floyd Gomez 03-29-2010 11:28 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
I posted the pictures as a bit of humor. However, if we already know that the stickers were bogus, who is to say that the test were actually performed. SFI is banning their stuff if it has an SFI sticker. I am pretty sure NHRA and any other venue would have to follow suit. Just my 2 cents

Jim Kaekel 03-29-2010 11:29 AM

Re: Impact Racing
 
Unfortunately, this is not the first time Impact Racing has been in hot water.

NHRA Tech Alert: Temporary Product Decertification
Thursday, July 09, 2009
NHRA has received notice from SFI Inc. that a Notice of Temporary Product Decertification was issued today to Impact Racing Products Inc. regarding certain products (listed below). Therefore, effective immediately, the products listed below will not be accepted for use in NHRA racing at this time. The products are:


Driver suits, pants, and jackets manufactured in 2007 identified as compliant with SFI Specification 3.2A/15 or 3.2A/20

This temporary decertification applies to Impact Racing all driver suits, pants, or jackets manufactured in 2007 whether or not the item has been updated, upgraded, rebadged, or recertified by Impact Racing.

This temporary decertification applies even if a product that was manufactured in 2007 now has a 2009 SFI label affixed to the product. The date of manufacture of the product is determinative.

SFI has informed NHRA that Impact Racing has challenged SFI’s findings in this matter and is conducting its own review of the findings. SFI also has informed NHRA that SFI’s investigation continues. In addition, SFI has informed NHRA that this decertification may be modified, withdrawn, or made permanent.

The earlier recall of the following Impact Racing items remains in effect:

Driver suits, pants, and jackets manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant with SFI Specification 3.2A/15 or 3.2A/20

Driver shoes and boots manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant with SFI Specification 3.3/15 or 3.3/20


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