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My car is all apart and going no where anytime soon so im bored.


My vote is for a Robin Brown v Tim Nicholson match up. A pair of 66 deuces with
screamin 283's goin at it is music to my ears. A best 3 out of 5 would even be better. Ed

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Ken Miele and any of the AA/SA Mustangs he thought were a good idea when they were foisted upon the racing community with that ridiculous 425 HP factor.

Let the punishment fit the crime... LOL!

Happy New Year, Ken, and good luck!!! :)

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Rock Haas and Brian Oakes.

Turn the scoreboards off so there is no worry about anyone knowing what they can really run. First to the finish gets bragging rights, no AHFS, no whining from anyone about how far their combo can run under the index and all that.

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ALL of the new Mustangs and Challengers with every engine comb avaliable so the AHFS could do its intended job.

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That is a good one Terry!
I was thinking the same thing. Really, what if Bob Glidden and Tony Christian had new CJs and they had to race for bragging rights at Pomona. Done Deal! LOL.

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Probably fun.....but unlikely........he's way too fast for us to mess with......


CBS

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LOL Rock, you keep them small pulley's on it, and them radials off that red beast and maybe i could run with ya. Brian

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Thanks Bill, you are funny, not sure what crime I have committed other than running a Ford.

You know what they say, if you can't beat them, join them. I may not need the luck ;)

How about Paul Adams in his 64 Thunderbolt and Ralph Porpora in his 66 Corvette.

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HEADS UP ??
They do that on PINKS all the time !! :-)

Also Top Fuel,Funny car & Pro Stock & others....:-)

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I'd like to see Ed Obrien go up against Jim Wahl.Turbo city.That would be interesting.

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Ken,

I am all for factory participation in Stock and S/S; takes me back to the days of the 421 Tempests, 406 Fords, and Z-11 Chevys (which were never legal Super Stockers, but exciting cars, nevertheless.)

We have been down the path of why these cars (the 2008 CJ's) were not given a reasonable factor by NHRA to begin with, so I won't belabor the point, now.

But for me, the blatant disregard by NHRA for the individuals who have put the requisite blood, sweat, tears, expertise, and MONEY into "traditional" SS/A and SS/AA cars, cars that have acquired reasonable horsepower factors over years of test and tunes, dyno runs and unimiginable time and effort in R & D, was unconscionable.

The absurd 425 HP factor was a slap in the face to everyone who seriously was attempting to campaign any other type of car in that class (yourself, included.)

In my opinion. your only "crime" was condoning NHRA's reckless apathy when it came to setting up anything resembeling a level playing field for these newcomers, as regards HP factors. You seemed to think the end justified the means in this case.

And, you may be right, but the graphic results of NHRA's action will best be demonstrated when you see one of these 4-valve, supercharged, intercooled, no-v.i.n. "stockers" in the other lane for class.

Your sportsmanship is to be admired; I'm not sure I'd take this farce by NHRA as well as you have, but if you're going to be driving one (a CJ), I guess it goes down a lot easier, huh??? LOL!

I stand by my guns; let the punishment fit the crime..... :)

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But for me, the blatant disregard by NHRA for the individuals who have put the requisite blood, sweat, tears, expertise, and MONEY into "traditional" SS/A and SS/AA cars, cars that have acquired reasonable horsepower factors over years of test and tunes, dyno runs and unimiginable time and effort in R & D, was unconscionable

Don't you mean AA/SA and A/SA.?

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OH........if only I could.......:-)

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My god I ask a question about who you would want to see run heads up and it turns into a Challenger/Mustang hate fest.

For Mr. Kelley im talking about S/SS. This is a class website not Pro Stock.

James S Christian v Glidden would be good. I used to love watching Tony race in PS no bulls**t just run it. PS did you get my voicemail I left you? Ed

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Yes; I do, Thank you, Ed.

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I would like to see Jenkins and Stahl with their 66 cars again. The giant killing 4 speed small block deuce and the big ole Hemi.

Sam

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Ken,

Thanks for your comments, and again, I DO admire your sportsmanship and attitude.

That, however, doesn't absolve the NHRA of unnecessarily playing favorites with some high-dollar machinery at the expense of some people who surely didn't deserve it.

If they'd put a 475 HP factor on those (CJ) cars, like they needed to, none of this controversy would have happened. I don't see where it's necessary to obsolete everybody else's race car just to satisfy the big dogs at FoMoCo. People would still have bought those cars and raced them, had they been introduced with a reasonable factor.

Your contention that "Life's not fair," is surely true, but in most instances, NHRA has bent over backward to ensure that things are as fair, between cars, as they can be.

Evan Smith, an honorable racer if there ever was one, gets bounced for a rules infraction so tiny that it had no appreciable effect on his car's performance.
The great effort to provide everybody with fuel that is legal, is a well-policed and ongoing effort by NHRA to ensure that nobody has an advantage in their carburetor float bowl. Efforts to police CRANKPIN DIAMETERS have made the news in the last few years.

My point is, NHRA USUALLY mounts what can only be called a monumental effort to keep things as fair as they can be for racers... they don't just say, "Yeah; those 340 Dusters are fast..." and, let it go at that. They develop a program (AHFS) to DEAL WITH cars that are inordinately "fast" for their class... in a serious effort to reign-in the cars that can easily dominate their class... The fact that it doesn't work is unfortunate, but for now, it's there. That's another whole topic...

Because they do all of that, you'd think that "Life's not fair" would not be a part of their psychological makeup; it would seem that they DO CARE.. (about fairness.)

Then, they come along and allow this CJ/factor debacle, which throws all of the above into a cocked hat....

It makes no sense to the casual observer, and I really AM just a :"casual observer," having no dog in this hunt; I run a Bracket car; haven't had a class car for years...

It's like NHRA has a Jeckyll/Hyde rationale; oh-so-concerned about the diameter of Evan's valves (to a couple of thousandths), then turn a blind eye to this overt "factor" business.

By-the-way, I am 100-percent in favor of the ruling on Evan's valves.... no disrespect to Evan, but specs is specs. That kind of attention to detail by NHRA tech is what has made Stock and S/S the best racing going, all these years. It's obvious that he was unaware of their dimensions, but that's no excuse, and he's said so. An accident.

Because I have a Bracket car, and no class racer, I appear to be a poking my nose in where it doesn't belong, but, unless I'm mistaken, this board is for opinions, and for people who don't currently race, so I run my mouth if I have an opinion (and, when didn't I???) LOL!

But the Internet has a way of distorting things, and I almost always come off sounding like some old coot who can only find fault. I'm not really like that; I just want drag racing to be as good as it CAN be.... and sometimes, things happen that torpedo that.

I have fun with my Bracket car, and don't hate anybody!!!! Well, nobody in racing, anyway.

The Challengers/Camaros, and Mustangs are gonna have a battle-royal this coming year, I think!

Let the games begin!!!!!!!!!! :)

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Let's rent Indianapolis Raceway the week before Indy. Balls out, no time, just win light for trophy and bragging rights.let's call it "So you think your fast National"I'm in for $100

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How about the fastest stick car in a class against the fastest auto car in a class, heads-up, no break out, no AHFS? All classes... :D

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How about the Top Stock format all the way down the line, all A-B-C cars race at B weight, D-E-F race at E weight, G-H-I race at H weight, etc. Settle the "if he weighed as much as me I'd beat him" crap! :D

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Shaun LeBlanc and and any GT/AA car who wants to try him..I think it would be a very good matchup, especially Grossi's current combo

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That'd be cool to try.

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Jeff, keep going...

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I know the fastest SS/IA car is sitting in my garage!!! The car is undefeated in heads up runs!!!



I would like to see Angelo DiTocco and Byron Worner go heads up.......

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Absolutely! Ed, how about a best of 6 out of 10 instead!!! LOL :) STICK cars are just simply AWESOME! After Tim & Robin run, how about Ray Paquet & Tony DePillo run each other in SS/B. One time at Indy wasn't enough, i could have watched those two cars run each other all day long...:cool:

"If you don't have a CLUTCH, you don't have MUCH.." ;) Thanks UMTR

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Jack McCarthy and Clayton Wright.

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Winner runs you! Right?
Happy New Year, Bob!

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I like the multi-class deal where three classes are combined into one for the purpose of Class eliminations. Of course some will think this is a terrible idea, but that's OK, everyone is entitled to an opinion. The bright side is that it would (for the most part) ensure that there are multiple cars running for Class (i.e., actual racing!).

I know, I KNOW, it's not your fault if no one shows up (I've singled for Class many times), but Herbie Null was right in that no sponsor wants to pay out for multiple single-Class wins. Plus, how can you stick your chest out and feel good about winning if you didn't beat anyone? It's not the fault of a single-Class car racer, but that doesn't mean a problem doesn't exist. I'd go as far as to try to combine stick and autos for Class runnoffs. It seemed that in Top Stock and Jr. Stock that if a combo was good that it didn't matter what transmission was in the car. The autos out 60-foot the sticks and the stick run better mph.

Every three classes could be combined, however, make it so if you don't want to move your car, you don't have to.

Evan

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I would pay big bucks to see Bill Dedman against Dick Butler, no matter what class it was.

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Sam Shinabarry and Hillbilly Duncan

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I'll second that.
The class could be A/M

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Lance Line and Bill Hawk in A/SA trim.

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Sonny Stancil's Stratus in SS/AM trim vs. any SS/AM car with the guts to run against him.
We would see the first side by side 7 second race in Super Stock.

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i would pay to see charlie wescott and daniels side by side and its coming this year and can't wait.also robin brown and tim nicholson and rob youngblood and david manning all side by side at the 4 lane charlotte race track.also the a/m daytona can hold its own i think his name is scott gove.hey ed i think it would be fun to see robin,tim,danny coffman and yourself all at charlotte at 1 time,i know bob rice would be there for that.4 chevy 2's at once,awsome.

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john force vs robert hight?

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That must be "A / MOUTH" LOL!

What else???

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and, the winner gets to race Keith Berg's "Olds Action."