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http://www.ihra.com/article/730.html

nice article for sportsman to think about

I just read it in the article, but is it true? The sportsman racers were told they would be fined $250 for trying to leave the facility with "their own property"???? That sounds like a field day for a lawyer if I ever heard of one. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Joe Pinkston
2155 S/ST

nhra is really starting to be a piece of **** the way they treat us.

s/g 1620

It sure is STRANGE the only place you read it is on IHRA's website !!!
Not a racer on the S/SS board that were there has said a word about this..........STRANGE !!!

At the NHRA D1 open at Atco the NHRA D1 crew did us the same favor. They ran the race to completion on Saturday to avoid the bad weather on Sunday. Trust me the ' IHRA treats the sportsman racer better' is all myth. We ran plenty of their national meets last year . . . Super Rod gets pushed all over the schedule and into the nite and dew. They won't let you park with your friends unless you arrrive at the gate back to back . . . and thats tuff if you and your friends are coming from completely different directions. I heard itt said that the all nite parking is terrific, except that at Cayuga Rich busted *** to get there friday nite at about 8 PM only to find that since it was raining all the gate staff left early and then they threatened him when he complained. You can have IHRA, I'll race with NHRA.

Al Kenny

Al Kenny
S/C 177K S/G

John;

I am hoping someone that was there in Houston will reply and verify that it is either true or false.

I was not there, so I can't say one way or the other, but it is stated that way on the IHRA web site, and in this day and age of lawsuits over the most trivial things I would think someone incharge of that web site would be very careful about putting out false information.

Hopefully someone that was there will post on this subject.

Joe Pinkston
2155 S/ST

My favorite quote in that article ... The sportsmen sat and waited in the rain all day Saturday without running.

Wasn't Saturday a complete washout for everyone?

What should NHRA have done in that situation? Attention in the pits ... OK guys, it's raining hard now, Super Comp to the lanes.

NHRA implements an oil down fine. 8 years of sportsman racing, 1 oil down for our team. Would have been one $250 fine over 8 years. Thats $31.25 per year. At 10 nationals per year, thats about $3.12 per race. With 4 cars, thats about $0.78 increase per car.

So for our team, our NHRA fee went up about $0.78 per car per race.
Our IHRA fee went up about $40 per car per race.

My NHRA win in 9.90 = $14,600
My IHRA win in 9.90 = $4,500

NHRA semi-final finish = $650
Dad's semi-final finish at IHRA = $150

So how exactly does IHRA treat the sportsman racer better? Rich Dorr, tell us about your gate treatment at Cayuga. Ray Sawyer, when you were first in line at Rochester, where did they park you? Where did the park everyone who arrived after you? Shane Carr, what happened with the 1995 Quick Rod points? You race a lot, why don't you IHRA race anymore?

Jason Kenny

You can afford to go to 10 NHRA nats a year with four cars? Where do you work? Thats ten grand in entry fees alone! Must be nice...

I was in Houston and the reason they didn't want you to leave was 1st off you were stuck in the mud and the second reason if yu happened to get out you would leave the return road full of mud. It would have been a huge mess and they wouldn't have been able to run the pros.

If I were Polburn, I'd be embarrased... IHRA does'nt have to worry about same day TV coverage.

My job title is Public Relations. I work for IHRA.

And Mr. Lyons, don't forget we have also budgeted an extra $31 this year for our average annual oil down fee.

you work for IHRA... boy, that was rich. wity...

That brings up a good question.. if the same racer oils the track in both of their cars, does the second one cost $250 or $500?

LOL Jason... All you need is a big x on the side of your rigs to look like john force rolling into an open or divisional! Good luck to all the Div 1 guys this year, i won't be attending any events as of right now b/c of dad's death unless you want to let me drive one of the 4 cars you got..*wink* LOL

Slick Vic Gordy
107 S/ST/G
87' Cavalier

I was there today to get my motorhome, the roads in the pits were covered with dried mud and they were working to get it cleaned up, there is no way they could have raced the pros with the pits roads looking like that, everyone had to be pulled out, some took 30-45 min to get through the mud onto the road and most stopped and wash the mud off afterward which made a bigger mess. I know of 1 person that left last week and not sure if he was fined or not, I was told today that he was fined but not for sure..

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NHRA semi-final finish = $650
Dad's semi-final finish at IHRA = $150
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NHRA Entry fee: $235-$260??? Don't even know these days. Try to find that info online anywhere! Last year, it was likely somewhere about $100 higher than IHRA.
Extra day off work to run an NHRA National. (let's say $360 for a .. "well-funded" team)

Difference between NHRA/IHRA semi-finals: $500. Difference in expenses: Almost $500.

Regarding oildowns, the money's not a big deal, but when it comes to return on investment it is a big deal? It's only a few cents per car, per race, right?

I won't defend what IHRA wrote, though. IMHO, it was a 'feel good' story from Mooresville, and it could've been left at that.

$.02,


Michael Beard
Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing
Duck Tape/Loctite Racing
J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum - World Record Holder

Most people that complain about NHRA never do anything about it, so stop complaining or stop racing NHRA. IHRA is a smaller organization, but thats good for sportsman racers because you are not jumping through
as many hoops and dealing with pencil necks.

I live in the heart of Div1 NHRA and I am going to be traveling 500-700
miles for IHRA div/nat events. IHRA helped me with the marketing
work I needed to help secure sponsorship for my two sportsmen cars.
Your lucky NHRA gives you a pit spot.

I get more expose from IHRA for my sponsors as a sportsmen racer than
anything NHRA would ever do to help out a sportsmen racer.

Good Luck NHRA racers.