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s10stocker 10-12-2009 08:20 AM

Fords next forced induction stocker
 
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2010taur...er=N3016.Yahoo

Mack Reeves 10-12-2009 08:31 AM

Re: Fords next forced induction stocker
 
You may be on to something!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff Lee 10-12-2009 09:19 AM

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Did you look at the "My Key" video?

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2010taur...er=N3016.Yahoo

Apply that to your Ford Stock / Superstocker for AHFS protection!


The apparent big secret from Ford (as I've not seen much print) is the new Ford Fussion. It's available with the SHO engine although a -10 HP reduction to 355 HP. With 4 klids, that could be something I could talk the wife into!
When I see 355-365 HP on a twin0turbo direct injection car, I see a inlet, exhaust and tuner package away from 450+ HP. Looks like a great package to me.

Evan Smith 10-12-2009 10:13 AM

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I saw an SHO run 12.70s with a re-flash of the computer.

Dennis P Chapman 10-12-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Fords next forced induction stocker
 
Would love to make a couple runs in one. Love thoughts turbos.

s10stocker 10-12-2009 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 145690)
I saw an SHO run 12.70s with a re-flash of the computer.

Great, they would probably factor them in O/SA to run with my N/A v6 pickup

CycloneFE 10-12-2009 06:16 PM

Re: Fords next forced induction stocker
 
We might even see Fuel Injection in Pro Stock too.

bill dedman 10-12-2009 08:03 PM

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I have always read a lot of magazine articles on go-fast tech, and believe me, you can read ANYTHING.... but, the most frequent opinion I read that sets me back on my heels is, that you can make more horsepower on gasoline with carburetors, than you can with fuel injection.

I don't understand that, but I read it so often, I'm beginning to wonder if it's true....

And, should it turn out to actually BE true, why would anyone want to put fuel injection on his Pro Stocker and give away horsepower to the carbureted car in the other lane???

Just food for thought...

CycloneFE 10-12-2009 08:13 PM

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Bill,

If that is true, why doesn't NHRA allow both in Pro Stock? It could settle the question. Just asking.

Steve

Ron E 10-12-2009 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CycloneFE (Post 145814)
Bill,

If that is true, why doesn't NHRA allow both in Pro Stock? It could settle the question. Just asking.

Steve

It's been that way in several comp classes forever. And, it's still not settled.

Moparteacher 10-12-2009 09:12 PM

Re: Fords next forced induction stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 145812)
I have always read a lot of magazine articles on go-fast tech, and believe me, you can read ANYTHING.... but, the most frequent opinion I read that sets me back on my heels is, that you can make more horsepower on gasoline with carburetors, than you can with fuel injection.

I don't understand that, but I read it so often, I'm beginning to wonder if it's true....

And, should it turn out to actually BE true, why would anyone want to put fuel injection on his Pro Stocker and give away horsepower to the carbureted car in the other lane???

Just food for thought...

For the most part that has always been the rule, that is until direct injection gasoline. Direct injection allows for higher compression, for the risk of pre-ignition is diminished. Direct injection gasoline trumps carburetion, all things being equal.

Jimi B 10-12-2009 09:32 PM

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Like most everything else it is not that one is faster than the other, it depends on the setup. It has a lot to do with the efficiency of the ports/combustion chamber. Less efficient heads are going to do better with carbs. At least this is what I have seen on the dyno on multiple hemis. carbs one hands down every time. Of course at the the time I learned this, I was working with a very respected engine builder/tuner and this is how he explained it. Makes sense. Then again, I am not quite as sold on him as an efi tuner as I am him as an engine builder and carb tuner...

Jimi B 10-12-2009 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s10stocker (Post 145717)
Great, they would probably factor them in O/SA to run with my N/A v6 pickup

If everything pans out I will be running a turbo car in O/SA next year. Dont worry.. Only 4 cylinders haha. It is an if. So we will see..

Jimi B 10-13-2009 11:21 PM

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bill dedman 10-14-2009 12:32 AM

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I was astounded, recently, to learn that the 1957 Mercedes 300 SL (street car; not the race car, although it may have had it, too) had direct injection.

I didn't believe it, so, I checked the information out from several sources, and indeed, it was true.

Direct injection on a gasoline engine 52 years ago.... Who'd-a-thunkit???

Bob Bender 10-14-2009 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s10stocker (Post 145717)
Great, they would probably factor them in O/SA to run with my N/A v6 pickup


My Kingswood would have a tuff time with them also. in O/SA................lol

CycloneFE 10-15-2009 02:52 PM

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Awesome video!! Look at how far he had to spot the Stang.

Why am I even building a big block????

John Quinn 10-15-2009 03:45 PM

Re: Fords next forced induction stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 145812)
I have always read a lot of magazine articles on go-fast tech, and believe me, you can read ANYTHING.... but, the most frequent opinion I read that sets me back on my heels is, that you can make more horsepower on gasoline with carburetors, than you can with fuel injection.

I don't understand that, but I read it so often, I'm beginning to wonder if it's true....

And, should it turn out to actually BE true, why would anyone want to put fuel injection on his Pro Stocker and give away horsepower to the carbureted car in the other lane???

Just food for thought...

Warren Johnson once explained that he wanted injection primarily so he could run a smaller hood scoop and have better aerodynamics.


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