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Chad Holzman A/SA 9.75, Jimmy Holzman AA/SA 9.48 Tom Meyer GT/KA 10.59 : 15 to 20 mph Head wind today, We get two Qualifying runs tomorrow before eliminations to run faster, Weather tomorrow 10 mph tail wind, if it does not rain, The mustang`s came to races apart because of indy piston problems.Tom

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A while back I posted in a thread the CJs could go 50s folks told me I was nuts, well here we are and one sets the AA record at 9.48 anybody want to bet one will go into the 20s next season !?

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Congratulations to Brent Hajek and crew on the new records, very well deserved.

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No betting against 20's from me. Especially once they have built race motors.

Anybody know the rules in stock for re-stripping blowers between rounds?

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Looks like the Cobra Jets have come out of the closet. Remember it's just a little 331 cubic inch motor and it can still pass emissions for you "green" people. Cobra Jet racers have all winter to play with their motors on the dyno and build a "real" race motor. 475 hp. version could be a real player in Superstock. Who knows? As a Ford guy, I'm feeling like the GM guys in 1969 when they kicked our *** with the ZL1. Never go to a gun fight with only a knife.

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Oh What a big surprise! Anybody remember the Factory Experimental thread? Ford made it very clear from the very beginning that it was their intent to cheat the system with this car. Big deal.

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And no pulley specs to limit boost and what's worst nhra not asking for them!

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Thats like congratulating John Force for setting the U/SA record with his Ha Ha car. When is NHRA going to wake up and put the HP on those funny cars that they should have? Probably never because they need the Ford trucks to run their circus next year.

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Terry like I said in the other thread, put them where they belong in SS

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Terry,

Brent and those guys work hard and spend money on there program to attain there goals. Yes its a great combo, but without the time and effort it would never have reached this level so soon.

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Say what you want to say but its like using a sledge hammer to kill a fly.

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Records Kearney open today,; Chad went three quicker 9.72, Jimmy went 4 quicker 9.44, Tom Meyer went 7 quicker 10.52, No head wind but more humidity today,Temp. 41 degree, Chad run`s before att. correction 9.97, Jimmy 9.68, Tom

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Lets start by saying yes those mustangs are very fast, but now only one person can say they set the AA/SA record at a sea level track, they didn't. Racers like the Sorensens or De Armond or Shaul and there are others that have a car that was sold to the public and you could get registation and Lic. plates for, And have worked as hard as these people have to achieve what they have will always be a bigger achievement than doing what these guys did. What happened to everybody crying about Altutude corrected records or do we only cry when it happens out on the left coast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS, by the way my piston doesn't measure right so please change the spec. so i can pass tech. Thanks Any Racer?

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what kind of car is the GT/KA , and what engine is it?

Terry,

sometimes it takes a sledge hammer to kill a fly!

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GT/KA record was set by my 66 chevy II with a 283 and a powerglide. Some say the corretion is bogus but this same combo went 10.49 at earlville last year uncorreted. There is no difference from SS/LA and GT/KA same HP and index so just change the letters on the window. With the next hp hit this combo will no longer fit the 13 lb break { Thanks Alan} so I am going to have to run GT/JA next year due to the fact that I can not get the car down to the 12 lb break with out spending some dollars. Thanks Tom

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I don't have a dog in this race but.
nhra had the wrong specs for pistons in my spirit. Made me pull a piston for a record setting. The dish height was off by .375. if their specs were right I would have to have been running diesel.
After taking the piston back to their motel for the night. They gave it back to me. Said they would check with California and let them make the call but I was not allowed to race.
In the end they gave me the record, but never gave me a dime back after not allowing me to compete.

So the Indy deal could have been legit

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Soooo, if its about free trucks. No wonder GM cars have been doing so much winning. I knew there would be a real intelligent answer. Where did everyone bitch back in 1969 before the internet? Oh, they just kicked their dog. I see it clearly now.

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Where did everyone bitch back in 1969 before the internet?
On the CB Radio

QUOTE=FECARMAN;144309]Soooo, if its about free trucks. No wonder GM cars have been doing so much winning. I knew there would be a real intelligent answer. Where did everyone bitch back in 1969 before the internet? Oh, they just kicked their dog. I see it clearly now.[/QUOTE]

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FE Carman,
No it ain't about free trucks. It's ABOUT an OEM that openly admits that they designed these cars to cheat the nhra system and a lowly sanctioning body that is so hard up that they let them get away with it.

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Bruce-

When did Ford openly admit that they built the Mustang to cheat NHRA's system? I'd like some facts, please.

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Sean,

A quick recap of information that has been posted on this site many times.

Ford staff told me and anyone who would listen at 2008 SEMA that these cars were putting out close to 800 horsepower, but they would not publish the numbers because they did not want nhra to know the real horsepower numbers.

A friend bought one of these cars and was told that the motors put out about 750-780 horsepower but they would not offer a dyno sheet because they did not want nhra to find out.

A fellow by the name of Steve who works for Ford Racing Parts told me the motors could make up to 780 horsepower but he would not give me a dyno sheet because Ford did not want nhra to find out about the real horsepower the motor is producing. Apparently Ford told nhra the motors produce approximately 450 horsepower.

nhra learned the truth about this scheme earlier in the year but refused to correct the situation. Now the numbers are out and the car is in fact making the power that all of the Ford staff said it would make.

This is certainly enough information for a reasonable person to conclude that Ford is cheating the system.

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Popcorn anyone?

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Popcorn, Coke, (large) and peanut M & M's. This is gonna take awhile.

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Jeff,

Just ordered two xtra large pizzas and settled into the easy chair.

Sent a letter to Fiat asking them to produce paper work for a 8-71 blower on a Max wedge, the HP will be 427, 2 over regular Max!

JimR

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Jim They have to grant my request first. I want a Challenger with a 2.4 turbo automatic(100 hp would be nice) and make it RWD.

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In all fairness. I doubt that it would have been any harder for Ford to make a piston that met the specs. The cars were going to be legal like it or not. Would the "illegal" pistons make the car go that much quicker?
So what's the point?

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Bruce -- Good to see that you're back in action .It's taken you some time but I see that your soapbox is back together and your voice is being heard .That said its a waste of time -- your estimates may not be too far off ( and I hate admitting it ) but stirring the pot here is useless .My advise ( yeah , I know, you didn't ask for it ) -- time is going to have to take car of this -- and it will . Have some faith in the system ........the horse ( no pun intended ) is already out of the barn .

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I,m with Bruce and Bob on this, but I agree with Jack that time will tell and they will dig their own hole. 139 on MPH and 111 in the eighth you will eventually get in trouble. They are not done at .40,s.My freind just ordered one for Comp Eliminator.

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I posted a bunch of pictures from Kearney on the Photo gallery page

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Ford did not do anything different than what Government Motors racing group has done for the last 40 years or so. Remember the 255 hp 350 back in 1969 or the Oldsmobiles of the 1980's or the LS1's of the 1990's. All were underfactored in their day. The car Companies want their race cars to go fast, to sell new cars, so they used the system to their advantage, but saying they cheated the system is your words, not Fords. How come no one complained about Irvin Johns Drag Pac Challenger being number one qualifyer at the Columbus Sportsnationals last week? Bruce is still sore because the Cobra Jets rained on his A/sa Corvette parade, but the Cobra Jets aren't the only game in town, so get used to it. Maybe the Performance Group at GM will step up to the plate with a competitive new Camaro, if they can get it by Congress.

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Dear no-namer Ford Guy,

GM never showed up at SEMA and said they were hiding their Horsepower numbers from nhra. The rest of your post is hooey.

Jimmy - Jeff,

I hope you guys brought enough junk food for everybody.

Jack,

The barn the horse escaped from is smoldering. Glad to see you have seen the light.

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Do you really think that GM or Chrysler would openly submit their Horsepower Sheets to NHRA ? My real name is right there in Black and White ( or maybe Gray) if you can figure it out. I will give you a clue, as I go by Dennis.

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Dennis,

GM never said they were hiding their numbers from nhra.

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Bruce -- All the car companies "fudge" a little -- its their job .If you remember I had the first '97 Firebird Formula ILE Ram Air with an automatic transmission - did you think I had " Job One " ? ( that even sounds a little like Ford ) Anyway the new wave of muscle cars are here - get used to it .I'd still like to have one of those Mustangs - they really are neat ................

PS - You also must have forgotten about my factory backed Olds Cutlass in the Eighties - they did more than fudge - but like all the rest it does catch up .........As you should be able to tell by now I'm well aware of whar factories can do ........look what they did for the Hemi .

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Jack,

They are neat race cars. I have said it many times. Fudge a little?

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Bruce,
Will you be racing at the Dutch? George and I are thinking about going and I would like to meet you as it seems that you are as passionate about sportsman drag racing as the best of us. Of course I will bring the popcorn, Jeff can bring his goodies, the fella that suggested the Italian beer (can't remember his name because somehow his post is missing, or maybe I dreamt up that one) can bring the beer, I think Dennis will go, maybe Jerry Maxwell, love to meet Jack as well, anyway if you go, that might just be enough to get the rest of us there- we will all have a grand ole time. Do you think you could get behind the wheel of the CJ? I am not kidding, you would absolutely love to drive this car. ANY one of you are welcome to come by our pit, ask anybody that knows me, at the track, I talk to everybody, maybe too much at times- sorry for that! Thanks, Jimmy

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Jimmy,

I do plan to go to the Dutch. But as a spectator. I don't drink any booze but I'll take you up on the popcorn.

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Maybe the time has come to classify stock and S/S by another means other than Factory, factored, or "Dart Board" HP per wt.???? They ALL seem bogus except for the ones that are not competitive. Cubic inches maybe? Add 1 1/2 times the cubes for a blower or turbo? Naaaaa, none of that would work either.

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crystal ball 101...

now that ford is selling bodies in white & drag kits (remember when we talked about just 50 of them?) soon mopar will follow, and whenever gm gets its $$ better theirs will be out too...

2010 us nationals :
top 128 qualifiers are all one of the three (or two) and EVERYONE else is not in the show...

did ya'll think wally was an idiot to insure EVERY class was represented in the eliminator ???

jack mccarthy

fast guys get thier way...and sometimes it bites them :)

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