Front Passenger Seat Removal
 

It has been brought to my attention in another thread that I am a big cheater for electing to sometimes run in D/SA to avoid some heads up runs in my division by weighing in at 3800 pounds.
I would like to start a discussion as to why or why not should the front passenger bucket seat be allowed to be removed.NOBODY SITS THERE ANYWAYS!
While it may take away from the "stock appearance",I think wheelie bars do to.If wheelie bars are required for safety,then why not allow lightweight race seats?
In all honesty,I really think the original rule should have been left alone.You must run your original class,or drop down one.I realize that there is no going back to that,but the seat is allowed to be removed in TOP STOCK,so why not STOCK?

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Wheelie bars are not required.

I don't really have an opinion on the passenger seat issue. (I have a bench seat, anyhoo)

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I only use one seat & one door, maybe doors can be removed before they get blown off.....

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Buy an old London taxi made by Austin.No front passenger seat included at no extra cost.
Or maybe you can convince tech that your 442 came with no dashboard,backseat,rugs,insulation.Pretty silly right?Dont be so thin skinned about being called a class dodger,it's done all the time,sometimes by the elite stock class racers.

Ed F.

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What does a seat weight, 25lbs, is it really worth it? I think cars with one seat look STUPID. Even POS Bracket Cars we have owned have always have 2 seats.

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Hey, if you can't legally make D then ADD weight and go to F! That's why they had to change the rule, to give everybody the ability to run more classes! If you don't need to fit the class that you're running then what's next? You can move up or down 5 classes?

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Nice, isn't a stocker basically a POS bracket car, just more expensive? I like stockers and bracket cars and I don't think either looks stupid with one seat.

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i CALLED MY CAR THAT....NOT ALL OF THEM....READ THE POST....

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Sorry, I just read the WE part of it.

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I'll second that...

However, race cars just don't look right without the second seat.

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I actually have 2 seats in my bracket car as my wifes bracket car has only just b/c the inserts pulled out of the bottom of it. Would like to put it back in just to make some room in the garage.

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Its always "just one more change". It will make it simple for me......I wont break parts.... I wont do wheel stands, I have an old gas tank. Heads are hard to tech.. Valve jobs dont make a difference ......Cranks cant be seen, Rods are hard to get at to weigh. Take the sum total of Stocker changes over the last 10 years and Wal Ah.... SS cars of the 60s and 70s. The SS cars are now the COMP cars of the 70s.
Unfortunately the Technology of the Racing Industry from Pro levels is being brought to the Stk and SS level more each day so the companies can afford to stay busy, and profitable and the racers are all looking for the "edge" Tech committee just keeps bending and giving in due to the needs for a skilled crew and cost of their employment.

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all racers should have to run with three seats

front
middle
rear

9 passenger wagons rule :)

captain

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LOL....Thats funny.....I dont care who you are.

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That's funny, I'm on the other end of this one. My Nova bracket car only has one seat. My dear wife, whom I met long after I built the old car, thinks it needs a second seat!

On the other hand, I'm cogitating on how to keep the REAR seat in this 79 Firebird, we're building to run in the IHRA crate motor class. I can buy a commercial roll bar but most of those necessitate the removal of the rear seat.

Robert Swartz

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Jack,

Is this why you did not elect to race in T/SA at Belle Rose?

Is your car simply TOO HEAVY?

As I'm sure you know,you had a better chance of getting struck by lightning and winning the Powerball in the same day than beating that Caddy in U/SA.

I think it would be really cool if it was legal to use "space age " materials to get your car down under 2000 pounds and race in A/SA.