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Does anybody know what the mile an hour was on Stinnets 9.81 pass? That's a hell of an improvement from Pomona.

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I think it was just over 133.
Not bad for a "street car"!

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How is that an improvement? -1.088 at Phoenix and -1.117 at Pomona

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10.18 @ pomona 11.30 index
9.81 @ Phoenix 10.90 index

Isn't that an improvement?

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he was 101 mph at Pomona at that run..i'm pretty sure they have not removed any weight yet...or are way ower..

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If this is a Cobra Jet I saw one run 138 MPH at Fontana.

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138 mph on ONLY 425 hp.... amazing!

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Word is: 107 mph @ 1/8 mile @ Pomona in A/SA = 10.18 @ 103 mph
108 mph @ 1/8 mile @ Phoenix in AA/SA = 9.81 @ 133 mph...in better air.

Doesn't sound like the car is having traction problems any more!

Two weeks!

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No, I think you saw Brian McClanahan run 138 in his Pontiac.

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Did you read the Robert Pond article at Drag Race Central? It seems he made a pass in Calvert's car and only ran in the 11's @ 136mph.
I have been piecing togther a '67 shelby for stock eliminator and I decided to change plans after the new mustangs came out. I am no longer trying to build an A car but will try to put together a combo for C.
No sense being down over 100hp in a heads up race.

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Wrong again Bruce!

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Alex,
Easy to say that. How so?

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Alex has informed me that I was off by 1 mph on the !/8 mph of the Cobra Jet @ Pomona. But it appears he was using the wrong run.

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108 at half track on a 9.81 is about normal. I don't think there was any sandbagging there.

Whose car is Rusty Hall driving

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..Someone said 200+* heavy..but maybe not true..

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are any of these 50 cars for sale? I know someone very interested in buying one!

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9.786 on a 9.78 dial and Stinnet still goes home in first round. Another 133 mph run. He gave up a little too much on the tree. But, that car is flying.

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They havent pulled out the smaller pulleys--YET :eek:

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Believe me!!! They have just scratched the surface on the potential of those cars.

Jerry

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They havent pulled out the smaller pulleys--YET



Come on with the I heard stuff.
I heard it was 1000 pounds too heavy! I heard it was 1000 pounds too light! That's called RUMOR for the purpose of STIRRING THE POT! A couple more chev and dodge guys want to chime in with their conspiracy theories??

Running a dodge I reaize it's not ALL chev and dodge guys

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Heard from a guy talking to one of the drivers..so maybe those are the one's wanna stirr the pot...but those cars may have hard time getting to the minimum in AA as they are "street cars" with nothihing really ""Stock"" done to them.....YET!!

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What is the reason Stinnett moved to AA/SA from A/SA? Does he get to take weight out?

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Weight, if want to known if someone is running heavy? or on the min weight, it not rocket science, all you have to do watch them when they scale after run or ask the tech person how much number 5704 weight at the scale, heard all the story about being 100 pounds heavy or 200 heavy

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Yes, the AA/SA weight break is 7.50 - 7.99 lbs/hp; the A/SA weight break is 8.00 - 8.49 lbs/hp. Assuming that he was running at the class minimum weight in A/SA, he can remove .50lbs/hp which=212.50 lbs (.50 x 425hp).
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

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These cars on kill will run 9.20's possibly teens all day long with a pulley change and some tuning. Next topic.

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Word is: last qualifier 109.80 mph @ I/8. The person who ran with this car was walking around the track and showing the ticket to anyone who wanted to look. He also checked the weight and said the car was 170 pounds heavy. This stuff isn't going away.

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Several years ago, I attempted to get the Pontiac GTP's into the Classification Manual. Ironically, even though Pontiac was the "Car of NHRA", they didn't have any of the 1997 & up Grand Prixs listed in the Manual. Len Imbragno tried for several years, and even made extra classes for the FWD cars. But they weren't classified until after he left.

The reason I mention all that is, at the time, I asked about changing the pulley diameter. I was told that only the STOCK pulley diameter would be allowed. Rules for Supercharged Stockers aren't addressed in the rulebook, but back in the old '57 Ford days they had to use the STOCK pulleys. Hardly anything else has changed in Stock since then, so I was just wonderin'.

Jerry

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>>>" Hardly anything else has changed in Stock since then, so I was just wonderin'.<<<

Jerry... you're a funny man.... lol!




Bill

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I think that the first step in this whole deal would be to get some kind of rules clarification from the NHRA in regards to allowable changes to turbos and superchargers. I was under the impression that they have to be unmodified OEM. Maybe Travis could write something in regards to what they do check?

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One must remeber in the day (1957) Ford had 2 sets of pulleys one set for Stick and one for set for auto.

see
http://www.vs57.com/

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I have been told that the stock OEM pulley with the correct tooth count and part number must be used on the new Ford. As far as the turbos, I have been though many tear downs and can tell you NHRA has all the specs they need to check the housings and cartridges. They check both wheel diameters and for clipping. The turbo must be completely stock as produced with the correct make and part number. Jim

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What's funny about these boosted cars, and I know we are beating this issue again into the ground, is that as you keep loading these vehicles down weight wise they will get faster. The CJ's, no matter how they get weighed down, if the chassis is set up right they will not slow down. Break parts, yes, slow down, no.

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Now they can defy the laws of physics too? Please explain.

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Thanks for clarifying. I was pretty sure that the forced induction combinations didn't have a "blank check".

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Mike at MPR has one for sale
greg

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It looks like the "blank check" has already been cashed. The current AA/SA record holder has never posted a 109.80 mph figure in the 1/8 mile. And this is only the second race for these cars.

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Jim W,

Respectfully, who gave you this info on the pulleys? Why is it that everyone has all this information and no sources to back it up. Hearsay is CRAP! This must be a really smart person who fed you this because they don't know the first thing about late-model supercharged vehicles. The CJ does not use a cogged blower drive, so there are no teeth to speak. Have fun counting those teeth! This goes for the drive pulley, or the driven pulley as the blower is driven by a serpentine belt with a sprung tensioner.

Furthermore, the rulebook states "aftermarket pulleys permitted." It currently says nothing about pulleys used to drive blowers, nor does it state anything on NHRA.com. Where do you people get this information from? Please, I know many of you are bothered by the CJ, but if you are going to come on here and post, at least properly inform yourself in order to sound intelligent about the topic and list facts backed up with a legitimate source. Only then will you be taken seriously.

And who is "loading them down with weight." Simple physics, a lighter object can be accelerated quicker than a heavier one.

Evan

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No Evan, your wrong. They're fords, therefore they defy the laws of physic's and logic, they are evil, EVIL I TELL YOU! They have special cogged serpentine belts which add hp! I heard they put a cj engine in a dumptruck to "load it down" and it went 9 flat!!

THEY"RE EVIL!

EVIL I TELL YOU!!!!

THE VIN NUMBERS ALL START WITH V FOR VOODOO!!!


MUHAHAHAHAHA, YOU ALL WILL NOW SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!!!

Seriously, this has been beat to death will logic and constructive input. Now it's just demonizing them.
There is nothing left to add so others will "I heard" or "I think". Again, it's all ford bashing and sour grapes unless the uproar is levelled against the turbo dodges/etc too.

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I had a responce for this but it wsan't very nice so I will take the 5th.

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Evan,
With all due respect, and I have known you for a long time, you shouldn't come out here and cherry pick these threads and hammer people. You know a lot about these cars but you have chosen brand loyalty over offering the Stock racers any clarity on this issue. I know you are wearing many hats, writer/editor for a Mustang magazine, Mustang racer, SRAC member etc., but take a look at what is going on with this mess.

In addition, the FRP folks are unwilling to publish any performance data on the new CJs - is there any wonder that misinformation becomes a problem? You could do all the racers a serious favor by posting some honest numbers on these cars before others do it. This is a hot story and many folks are very curious about the real performance of these cars.

Right now, it looks like Ford has pushed a ringer into the regular Stock classes. On their second outing, the CJs are out performing the best cars in the country. One of the members from the Ford camp in Phoenix said they have not tried to push the cars yet. We are a small community of people and we need answers.

Thanks.