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tomcowle 01-03-2009 01:09 PM

Ohio based "90 series"?
 
This was started on another site, they are checking for interest for an Ohio centered "90 Series" for 8.90, 9.90 and 10.90 racers.

Any serious interest in a series like this?

What would you like to see in this series? Multi-day event or single day? Entry fees? Frequency of the races?

T Hall 01-03-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
National Trail Raceway in Columbus,(which is centrally located ) already has a 6 race .90 series. It has a pretty good payout with a very small entry. You also run super pro the same day and stay at your .90 dial if you like. Lots of fun, good practice.

Ryan Dillman 01-03-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
think its a good idea if it were a two day race maybe the 90 stuff for sat and then super pro on sun.

kmyers 01-03-2009 04:01 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Hey Tony,
Are you running this year

luckydog 01-03-2009 06:11 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
A .90 series here in Ohio would be great!! Two or even three events per weekend would help it's popularity. Could even make one of the races a big money event! Making sure to stay away from scheduling against I and N races would be key. Seems like every year 4 of the races at Trails is scheduled on an IHRA weekend. Also, I think a season long points chase would be nice!! What site did you see this on?

B CHILLIK 01-03-2009 06:36 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
i think barney said it best on the other site...only problem with national trails is you are there all day and night as they run all there regular points on the same nights.....i for one would love to see this happen...would give us practice for the nat and div races...plus you get to run different tracks...count me in !!!!!

lazrcng 01-03-2009 07:02 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Keep the ideas coming guys, in a few weeks a couple of use are getting to plan out the deal for 2010.

Give us some ideas of Tracks, Payouts, Entry, Dues, Etc.........

Later, LAZ

T Hall 01-03-2009 09:53 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kmyers (Post 98280)
Hey Tony,
Are you running this year

I think I am going to play with my Nova a lot more this year. I am not sure about super street.

SSTRACER323 01-03-2009 10:17 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Hey Tony

I am going to run Sportsman at 66 in my truck. I have a couple of things going but i do not think i will run S/ST.

T Hall 01-03-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSTRACER323 (Post 98315)
Hey Tony

I am going to run Sportsman at 66 in my truck. I have a couple of things going but i do not think i will run S/ST.

My nova may run s/st in good air. I will be chased at all times. Worked good for Messik. What ever happened to him anyway? Hasnt posted in a while.

SSTRACER323 01-04-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Hey Tony

have not seen any post from him lately.

JJ3159 01-04-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
you really should try to make them two races a weekend ,up here inthe buffalo /southern ontario we do that with the tnt super series and it seem to draw more cars.

Jeff Beckman 01-04-2009 02:58 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
I beleive down south they have 1/8th mile 5.0, 6.0, and 7.0 racing like this. Seems to work there.

Ryan Dillman 01-04-2009 07:08 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
yes they do jeff but there are no throttles stops allowed in those classes

R Bailey 66 Mustang 01-05-2009 12:59 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Hey Guys:

Trails has been running a pretty good Super Series program but it maybe coming to an end in 2009. Layton and a group of racers had a meeting a couple months ago to discuss the issues. One of the main concerns is the track conditions. This has been an issue for quite a while but I say for the first time in a long time, 2008 was probably one of the best years for our car but don't know about anybody elses. If they don't get the car count, then the program is going to be eliminated. These are the issues that they have run into:

1) Scheduling interference with division and national events
2) Track conditions
3) Too long of down time between classes
4) Changing the roll out

This is the only track locally in Ohio that runs throttle stop races for practice for upcoming division or national events. I do believe the interference of schedules is a big factor. They run this program for almost 5 straight weeks beginning in May through early June. What they are going to try to do is run the program for 4 races and if they do not get the revenue through the gate, the program will be pulled.

As for the roll-out, if Trails does change it, then our Super Gas racing is out the door. Rick finally was able to finish in the top 2 in 2008 and so very proud of him. The car is pretty nose heavy right now, almost 2980 1b car. The roll out is changed in division and national events so we are zeroed out in the box already. The best we can do right now is is a mid teen to low 20's. Some of the guys were complaining because they were always cutting red lights and their cars are 700 1bs lighter than ours. Wouldn't that be adding a little bit to the box? I know we can't.

You guys that run these events, you need to let your buddies know what is going on. I would hate to see this program go away. I know Trails has had a reputation of a slick track and a pretty rough left lane, but they actually used traction compound this year during the series.

Hope everybody has a great year and talk to you soon.

Ruthie Bailey

Eddie Arnold Jr. 01-05-2009 05:11 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Count me in this year ,, if there are no conflicts with Div. / Nationals .

As far as Trails Super Series ,,,,, I hve ran it in the past and I had a great time ( even with Tom Diamond there :) ,,,,,I did go one time last year but couldn't get down the track and we all know the left lane is another story !! -- I will give it a try again this year , but if the track is not up to par , I will not return the 2nd time .

Colorful Racer

Jeff Beckman 01-05-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
You think the track is slick, you should fall thru the suddenly missing grand stands the racers use to sit in!

Jason Oldfield 01-07-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Beckman (Post 98524)
You think the track is slick, you should fall thru the suddenly missing grand stands the racers use to sit in!

I was there when that happened...actually at another racers trailer that wasn't too far from there. We were wondering what all the commotion was about.

Whatever happened with that? I'm sure there was a lawsuit? What did NHRA do, simply take the grandstands down rather than fix them?

Christopher Stilwell 01-07-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
As this is my first post here, allow me to introduce myself.

I am Christopher Stilwell and I am the Facility Operations Manager at National Trail Raceway, starting in the position before the 2008 racing season. I also am a licensed NHRA Super Comp and ET racer, but this position and my brother ability to drive as well doesn't give me the chance to race as I would like. I am posting to inform you all about the 2009 Jegs Super Series at the track.

After meeting with several Super Series racers after the season, General Manager Jim Layton and our crew have listened to several thoughts about the series and are looking to make the series better for everyone. Below are a couple of points that have been addresses.

1. Schedule: The 2009 schedule for NTR is preliminary and posted on the website. The Super Series events have been placed in order for those to take advantage of practicing before several NHRA National and Divisional event in Ohio.

#1 - June 20th
#2 - June 21st (Weekend before NHRA National Event @ SREMP)
#3 - July 18th (Weekend before NHRA LODRS event @ NTR)
#4 - September 12th
#5 - September 13th (Before the Jegs Northern Sportsnationals @ NTR)
#6 - October 4th (Final points event)

These events have very minimum conflict with NHRA or IHRA National or Divisional events around the area. We also will have a points series in all three Super Series classes. Different this season is that each racer will claim their best five of the six scheduled events.

2. Time Constraits: One of the major issues raised was the amount of time it takes on Sundays for our races to conclude. It was determined that for at least the Super Series classes, on June 21st and September 13th, they will only have one time trial before eliminations. This will cut the time it takes to run the event and make the drive back for racers, and track employees alike, easier.

3. Track Conditions: The beginning Super Series event was on a "green" track at the start of the season. Those at the meeting said the track was better than ever throughout the rest of the season. It is our goal to have the best track possible every time a car stages and we will continue to do so.

4. Rollout: At the track, I also setup the classes into the computer which includes rollout. The setup for our Super Series in the computer is the same as that setup by NHRA for the Divisional and the Sportsnationals. We will evaluate the entire starting system for possible problems before the 2009 season begins.

I'm sorry for the long post, but this information may help those that are looking for other places to race .90 series classes that are not Divisionals and Nationals. Following the 4th event of the season, the Super Series at NTR will be re-evaluated for the future. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to PM me here on CLASS RACER. I appreciate any thoughts.

Have a safe and productive winter and success on the track in 2009.

luckydog 01-07-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
For the past couple years I have supported 90 racing at Columbus as much as possible. I think it's great that NTR gives us another place to race. I would greatly enjoy entering your points program ,however, in the past I have encountered scheduling problems and have not been able to do so. This year appears to be no different. Your June 20 & 21 weekend is scheduled the same weekend as an IHRA sportsman national and 2 division events in Byron, IL. Your July 18 date is on top of the IHRA Canadian Nationals and the September 12 & 13 date is on top of the NHRA D5 event in Earlville. For any racers attempting to make the IHRA Tournament of Champions, and are located north of NTR, Byron and Grand Bend are about as close as it gets! Same goes for Earlville as an NHRA out of division claim. I hardly call this "very minimal conflict". I know this is just my case and maybe most of your potential customers won't be chasing the IHRA, I just wanted to point this out. I would love to be able to run your points program.

PS: the track has always been good for me!

Christopher Stilwell 01-07-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
luckydog: Thanks for your thoughts and kind words.

I understand that their are a some conflicts with a couple of IHRA dates as well as the D5 race in Earlville. The goal was to try to stay away from as many National and Divisional races as possible. As we all know, when the NHRA and IHRA schedules are announced (along with our scheduled larger events) it can leave small wiggle room as to scheduling an series like this without stepping on something. We were successful in staying away from the NHRA Division 3 areas and the IHRA Division 3, with Grand Bend in Canada being the only exception. I hope that we can have a successful season in 2009, and hope to see everyone at the track whenever possible.

Eddie Arnold Jr. 01-07-2009 06:32 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Chris ,,,

Thanks for your post and explanation ,,, it is appreciated ,,,, I'm going to give the series a try and I'll also spread the word !!

Colorful Racer # 37

Jeff Beckman 01-07-2009 06:49 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Chris, This schedule is great! The 5% Rule, nothing works for everyone. We will be coming this year for the first time. Just thought I would shine some light on the other side of the coin.$

Eddie, Give Rocks motor back and stay home would ya, # thirtysomething!

Best Regards, Jeff

luckydog 01-07-2009 08:00 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Stilwell (Post 98766)
luckydog: Thanks for your thoughts and kind words.

I understand that their are a some conflicts with a couple of IHRA dates as well as the D5 race in Earlville. The goal was to try to stay away from as many National and Divisional races as possible. As we all know, when the NHRA and IHRA schedules are announced (along with our scheduled larger events) it can leave small wiggle room as to scheduling an series like this without stepping on something. We were successful in staying away from the NHRA Division 3 areas and the IHRA Division 3, with Grand Bend in Canada being the only exception. I hope that we can have a successful season in 2009, and hope to see everyone at the track whenever possible.

Understood! Like I said, it was just my case. Good luck with the series. If I win at Byron in June, I'll be at NTR in July! :)

Nitro Joe Jackson 01-07-2009 08:12 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Guys i dont know if this will help, but i have told Jim & Chris i would help out in the lanes at EVERY Super event in 2009
So plan on the Jackson's being there for sure.

I hope the use some of my idea's with the show.

Jeff Beckman 01-07-2009 11:10 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Hey Lucky Dog, I was not taking a shot at you. Sorry if you got that. I just wanted to say that in the opposite, it works perfectly for me. No matter what dates, some of us wont make it. Best of Luck, Jeff

Eddie Arnold Jr. 01-08-2009 10:22 AM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Hey Jeff ,,,, that made my day !!

I'll tell you what ,,, I 'll give Rock his motor back if you let me use yours ? Deal or no Deal ??

Nitro ,,,
your smiling face and wise remarks at the races always make for a better race !!

Colorful Racer # Thirty Something :)

R Bailey 66 Mustang 01-08-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Chris:

I'm going to whine like I always do but you love it though. Don't know if we will be at the July 18 Super Series race. We have never been too fond of the Night Under Fire Exhibition race same goes for Norwalk. We have stopped going to that race even when we were running the Maverick. The track was like a skating rink. The jet cars leave so much soot on the track even after clean-up, even on the throttle stop our car will be moving around. Would rather save the car. I know it is the week before the Division Race, anyway of moving the date or run the jet cars after the bracket racing is done? I have heard the car count has been down for this race in the past.

Just my opinion.

See you at the banquet.

mitch sowers 01-08-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Chris, Can you give us some info. on entry fees and payouts for NATIONAL TRAILS RACEWAY super series races for 2009. Thanks......... Mitch & Zee Sowers 366p s/st s/g

Bob Verwold 01-08-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mitch sowers (Post 98917)
Chris, Can you give us some info. on entry fees and payouts for NATIONAL TRAILS RACEWAY super series races for 2009. Thanks......... Mitch & Sowers 366P S/ST S/G

What happened to Z

Christopher Stilwell 01-12-2009 12:04 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Sorry for not answering any sooner than now. Was at Indy for the D3 Banquet and the meetings from Thursday through Sunday.

On the July 18th event run in conjunction with the Night of Thunder show at NTR, the Super Series classes will run their time trials and eliminations before the jets fire off around 7:00 PM. The goal is to run the regular ET program with the show like normal. The Super Series will be conducted before the show and the final round of all three classes will be run in succession to kick off the opening round of the show at 7:00. Last year after the show ended at around 11:00 PM, we still had about three rounds of the bracket race to run afterwards, so timing in between the show sessions should not be a problem.

The entry fee for the Super Series classes at each event (any of the three classes) will be $65. The payout structure for all three classes at each event is as follows:

Winner: $800
R/U: $250
Semi: $100

The points series payout at the end of the year has a slight difference between the Super Comp / Gas classes and Super Street:

S/C & S/G
Winner: $1,000
R/U: $500

S/ST
Winner: $750
R/U: $400

In addition to the points payout, the winner of a best package runoff between the three champions will receive a $500 gift certificate from Jegs. Entry into the points is $30 for either Super Series class.

Once again, congrats to all of the winners at the numerous awards banquets on your great 2008 seasons and continued success to everyone in 2009.

Jeff Beckman 01-12-2009 07:51 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Eddie, I gota real sweet Hemi for ya, its only missing everything! But your car will be so lite the hot air from this site alone will get down to 8.00. You will have to engineer the stop device!

Eddie Arnold Jr. 01-13-2009 10:20 AM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
Jeff ..... NO Deal !!

ITFLMAO

Show me the motor in the , in the Vette !!!

Send some of the Hot air up to Northern Ohio ,,, we need it ,, temp forcasted to single digits :(


Colorful 37

Jeff Beckman 01-16-2009 07:16 PM

Re: Ohio based "90 series"?
 
-5 in Columbus, Just called Minnesota, It is a balmy -35. NO WINDCHILL!


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