NYIRP back under Metcalfe management
 

Bob & Donna Metcalfe, who leased NYIRP this past year but held paper to the facility, have announced that they have taken back ownership of the business and plan to operate it in the upcoming '09 season.

There is a very short notice regarding this posted on http://www.nyirp.com.

Plus I received a personal phone call from Bob himself informing me of his decision.

Details and specifics of the upcoming season will be posted on the website as they become available.

Mike Paz, Motorsports Announcer

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good news

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he never left, that's the biggest reason the place didn't get much better. now he can really run it into the ground.

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I'm glad to see Bob & Donna back at NYIRP as the new owners, I would rather go there than to that S@#& Hole Lancaster that they call a race track. Not really sure how you (Sam) thinks that Bob will run the track in to the ground as you say. He's done a tremendous job keeping it going through tough times. I've been a NYIRP faithful for many years and will remain doing so!

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i've been going there since bob re-opened in early '80's. loved going there through the '90's until he screwed up the empire nationals deal. the years since have been a downhill slide.

nearly the same purses (or less in the case of 1/8mi nat. weekend) for 20 years, little or no improvements in the facility( the stone that was added to pits was an ******* move), flat tires on a regular basis, dragging events out in order to make a couple dollars for himself on dial-in BS, i've pretty much given up on that place.

had hopes that vito would do better, he made a good effort, but, having bob involved this year was the worst thing he could have done. wasted my time there once this fall on the top-gun shootout sunday, poor decisions on their part turned it into a joke. doubt i'll ever be back.

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what was the deal
vito never bought the track? just lease
why does bob have it back?
i like going there bob has never treated me bad and i also like vito
best of luck to who ever is incharge

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w h y ? ?

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why not?

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Funny I don't recognize the name as a weekly points racer, it is obvious that this is nothing more than an Antonicelli deciple and thus did not get treated like trash like most everyone that was not in Syliva's inner circle.

FYI had Bob and Donna not helped them out it they would have folded in a month because not only did they treat people like crap, they are totally clueless on how to run a basic points program.

It takes alot of pieces to have a race track profitable. That is Wed, night fun nights, Friday test and tune, and a FULL Saturday program from Jr. Dragsters, through the Super Pro drivers ( some who think they are more important than the rest).

Tell Sylvia and her husband they can purchase Lucky's Drag city and set up national events there. That way the people that go to NYIRP 3 or more times a week will be happy and the "occasional" visitors can have a national event to solely judge the track by.

Question, How could Vito afford a National event when they would not even buy trophies for the kids running Jr. Dragsters?

Welcome back Bob and Donna, the majority of the western and central NY racing community could not be happier!

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rgarvey Anyone but him, this is like re arranging the patio seats on the Titanic! Just give me one good reason to be a customer! Go ahead youve got all winter.

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pretty tough talk from "silver fox", use your real name jackass. if you don't recognize me by name, you must not have been racing in western NY very long.

i have never been a points member at that dump,(or gravel pit as most people know it), i don't waste my time there much since the downturn it took a few years ago.

car counts there have been dropping for years, as people realized everything was being geared toward street cars and money in bob's pocket. this was long before the economy began affecting racing.

everyone is entitled to their opinion, but facts show that people are tired of the same old crap. all of us that have been around long enough, and have been to tracks around the country, can see the difference. it's funny how the people that hate lancaster are usually also the same ones that think things were fine at nyirp. lancaster has had several different owners and is still thriving. the difference is that real racers can make due with 1 or 2 time trials and race without making a mess out of an entire day.
if racing at nyirp is all you know, it's time to get out more.

as far as getting personal about vito and sylvia, that shows alot about you, maybe you and all the other people that can't deal with change are the real problem. HAVE YOU EVER WON A RACE OR EVEN A ROUND AT ANOTHER TRACK? DOUBT IT.

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Truth usually is tough talk.

I said I did not recognize it ( your name) as a weekly points racer. Learn how to read.

And since you admittedly only went ONCE late in the season you are in no position to comment on how good or bad a job the change in ownership brought to the facility. Bob and Donna have run the place over 20 years, Vito could not hack it one, Or should I say his wife because if you had been going there you would know she ran everything and he was hard to even find. Yea I have a problem with change, as you would if it were change for the worse. Bob might not be the best but he is a hell of alot better than what NYIRP got in 08.

Lancaster was not thriving, they were on the verge of closure and extinction. And to be totally honest if it were not for those STREET cars on a Wed. night filling those pockets they would hardly be "thriving" at all.

If it takes street cars to keep a facility open then so be it. You are just another super pro driver that thinks that your entrance fee is more important than the next guy.

That is the nice thing about a properly run bracket racing program, there is room for everyone at every level. Not just a dwindling field of fast cars with nobody to fill the future because the owner only gives the time of day to a select few.

Do everyone a favor and go to your tracks around the country. I cannot speak for Bob but to me I am sure your once a year entry would be a good trade off for a few street cars that do not whine and complain about everything. The stones are a problem but no more of a problem than stock car parts on the oval at Lancaster.There is always a paid paved pit space. Same as any other track.

As for winning races, I know of people that have raced a long long time and never won a race, some hardly ever getting out of a first round. That does not make their money any less green than the next guy and it certainly does not make thier opinion any less important.

If you do not like it there, stop trashing it and don't go. It is not like you went and supported Vito or Bob anyway.



Again, WELCOME BACK BOB AND DONNA!!

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Silver Fox you really cant blame Vito or Sylvia for all the failure to NYIRP.I cant be certain but the sagging economy and the weather KILLED almost all chances of making any type of real profit! I do not care who owns the track, as Ive never had any problems with the Metcalfs or the Antonicelis. But I do certainly commend Vito for trying his hardest at turning something into something bigger and better. I say this because I know of Vito and his accolades. He has a true passion for this sport, and is a succesful business man. I would feel sorry for you if you tried to make a go at your passion and had it fail. Also I did race at NYIRP this year, just as much as LMP.Good luck to whoever owns a track as you will need it with racers who are quick to bitch about whats in it for them! Silver fox for me to respect you on a racing website I would ask you to reveal yourself? Mike Hayek 1648

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Why I am Big Daddy Don Gartlits

There now I fit in with all the ones that think they are anyway.

Can you blame Vito's failure on Bob being there helping him out? Seems that was the point.

Who cares? Either way it will be back the way it used to be which is a good thing. Attend if you want or shut up and stay home. People around here do not know how good they have it with several tracks to choose from in a short driving distance. For now anyway.

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Silver Fox Seems you missed my point! X3. I dont see anything wrong with your opinons as they are like *******s everyone has one. Re read my post, did I mention anything deragatory about you? I believe my point is valid nothing personal to anyone. I would just like to see that an owner wants whats best for the racer as he would himself ! I am a paying customer who expects that. Also, Don G a r l i t s I am not! but At least I told you who "I" am. Did you think the new elect President won because the people didnt want change? Valid point?? Good luck in "09" ( If you even race)Hopefully I will see you in the other lane.No hard feelings local racer! It is what it is.

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No I did not miss your point and there are no hard feelings towards anyone.

Your point about a paying racer is exactly the point I was trying to make. Bob and Donna treated people pretty much like family and get trashed by some, but last years owners treated most of the weekly people like garbage and get a pass. I just do not get it.

It is nothing personal against them, alot of us just left and went to Skyview instead. You go where your money is appreciated.

I will introduce myself to you when I see you at the track in the spring.I am not comfortable with posting a name on the web.

As for Obama he got elected because people are pretty stupid and misinformed combined with a bad Bush presidency and a weak Republican ticket. I really do not see the parellel, I do not know any majority that wanted to elect a new owner for NYIRP.

www.howobamagotelected.com

Enough on politics, including the tracks and their owners.

Good luck!

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ok so let me get this straight would you rather the track was closed? instead of having a choice where to go race?

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There is good and bad at all tracks you just have to make the best of it.
i race for the fun of it but when you win you would like a couple of bucks .
if you race just for the cash there are some big dollar bracket races to go to.
but i understand that when your entrance fee goes up you woul like a bigger purse.
but you have to have fun or no sense of going.
just my opinion

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First of all I have raced points at nyirp and at lancaster and do some traveling, vitos intentions were to make nyirp a better place for all of us ,you can not make everyone happy he had alot of obsticles and we forget FOR HIM IT WAS A BUISNESS ! .now as for Bob and Donna i wish them all the best they always treated me good.As for silver fox you should try some other tracks most do run street and trophy,you be suprised how good other places are ran.

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first of all whoever runs the track this year best of luck and hopefully that slut mother nature will let us race a little more. Second i love when the keyboard racers bash all the people who have been around since before i was born. Silverfox should be a grown *** man and reveal himself so everybody actually knows what car you race or which section of the bleachers u sit in after the buyback round either way i could care less. CIRA JR.......if you dont know the name you must suck BYE

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I know the name, you are the one that got bitch slapped by Bob on Esta's board for slandering him a year ago. Come visit me in the bleachers after the buy back round I will be the one with the dozen donuts waiting just for you. My treat.

There was no intent to bash any racers, the point is how Bob and Donna get trashed for treating people like family by people that seldom (if ever) even attend. They get blamed for the failure of the past seasons owners for helping them out.

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I have been to several other tracks, as was stated there are good and bad with all of them. Either way the good news is it will be open for another year.

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bitch slapped nobody bitch slaps me that i assure still wont say ur name.................SHOCKER

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instead of **** talking,bashing other racers and tracks and track owners,you guys should try to get in touch with track owners and have a meeting about the 09 season.discuss the good and bads about the track,come up with some diffrent ideas.i'm sure the track owners would like to hear our input we are the ones that put the $$$$$ in the owners pockets.its hard to please everybody but we all love to race i'll race anywere i can!! just my 2 cents HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!!!! Joe Fiano Jr

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OK, who stoled JoJo's password & wrote this????

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Joe, we the racers dont put money in the owners pocket. Its the wensday and friday test n tune cash cows. Remember no payout for them and no track prep.

Bob is too comfy with things the way they are to make any changes that would benefit the saturday night racers. Payout structure based on car count, its fair. All i ask for is a pro am and maybe a change in the laborday weekend payouts.

Vito had good intentions, but mother nature and a couple accidents didnt help his effort. Oh well he tried.

John Beasaw III
'70 chevelle
F/CM 1096
G/CM w/ Cira Jr. LOL

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Sorry Jo Jo but thats some funny **** right there!

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glad to hear nyirp is still racing in 09. we have nothing on long island. went to all empire nats, 1990-2001.
as a fan with a big family. looking forward to visiting the track in 09, hopefully racing.

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glad to hear nyirp is still racing in 09. we have nothing on long island. went to all empire nats, 1990-2001.
as a fan with a big family. looking forward to visiting the track in 09, hopefully racing. do the still race at the 1/10th mile williamson. i went there in like 95, fun time watching the left lane dip.

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Yes Chris they still race at Spencer Speedway and yes its still 1/10 long. New ownership there too. Had some rough spots but they are getting better. Track has teeth.

I think with the IHRA's "flagship" track mansfield having the plug pulled. It would be the prime time for a track like NYIRP, to step up and make the improvements so it may become the new flagship as we all know the there old ship set sail for greener ($$$-nhra-$$$) waters.

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I am going to be a new racer there this year. And some of you are painting a dim picture. I knew lancaster is not all that hot but its going to be 10 minutes from where i am going to live And if its that bad ill make the tow to thompson. Is the money good everyweek no pay out problems?

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I see where they are going to keep entrance fees the same as last year

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I always enjoyed racing with Bob and Donna...Yes it took the whole day up but it is a more relaxed deal than the Friday night thing at Lancaster. Although I like what Ralph has done with the classes an payout at Lancaster...some of you may remember Vito's comments years ago when it was suggested to combine the classes:D. I wasn't to impressed with a guard being at the bottom of the tower during Vito's term at NYIRP either...part of the attraction of that track is the family atmosphere.

I wish them both good luck...Bob and Vito..and hopefully I'll make a few races up in NY this season.....

PS....whats up Sammy, Mike and JJ....;)

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I guess racers really get board in the off season. I know the some of the names here and pretty sure you like myself are not racing for a living every track no matter who the owner will have pros and cons be happy you can race and you do have a choice of where to race

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I Just Like Racing ill race at lancaster and nyirp but fees also play a part

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Hello everyone,Dave here(Dave Dailey) kinda easy to figure out with the screen name.I also enjoyed having Vito owning (or running the track) last year because he did have new ideas for it.There were alot more going on it seemed,quick 8 show's,class racing and so on.I never had a problem with Bob but i'll be another one to say it would probably have more shows and diierent races there with Vito a the owner.It takes money to make money.
On the other hand i'm also a racer that goes to other track(and yes i do win at other track)..lol,had to ad that one..lol..I enjoy going to Dunn Tire aqnd racing.The only hard part is getting there on Friday night as i live eighty miles away but i'll still continue to race there as i enjoy the track along with the fellow racers and owners.
I also enjoy going to ESTA which takes me an hour and a half and cost thirteen(times two) to get in the front gate then another 45 to race.I also enjoy the people and thewy also treat me well when we race there.
All said and done i hope all the tracks has a great turn out this year.
Hey Samand the rest of the guys from Dunn,"i hear you and know where you're comming from"keep the good word going.

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thanks for the comments dave, it's good to know that there are atleast a few racers out there that pay attention and have a clue.
funny how some people are quick to blame vito for "everything that is wrong with the world" -bob was right there holding his hand all of last season! why is it only vito's fault?

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I had to take the year off so i cant say how it was run but there was a lot of rain last year it would have been tough for anyone .

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Opening Day! 270 Plus cars on Saturday. Lots of venders at the swapmeet lots of great deals. Heres to a great year of Drag Racing at the Big Track, NYIRP in 2009!