Current SS A/H car in NNS?
 

As everyone knows Hemi Shootouts are dying off and I still want to race my car. Please help guide me here because this NSS stuff is Greek to me
My combo is a A/H Iron Block and Iron Head motor. I run a billet intake so that puts me in AAAA/FX to A/FX. I run a Clutchless 4 speed so that also is allowed the same classes. I have to put on smaller tires because my 14.5’s are not allowed. Guys am I missing anything else? Is there a minimum weight? Our 1968 Darts and Barracuda’s had light weight front ends from the factory so is that an issue?

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138 looks and I feel the love! Not one reply! I wouldn’t want me in the class either! Lmao

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I could be wrong, but arent NNS races just bracket races? I'm not putting them down, just asking because if you have a NHRA legal SS/AH car, why wouldn't you run divisionals and Super Stock/Stock association races along with the shootout races? Then you wouldn't have to change anything on your car.

There is a Hemi Shootout at the Dutch Classic in 3 weeks.

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That’s what I did this year I hurt my engine so no Dutch for me this year. The reason is I have a spare motor and can change cams and some other stuff to slow it down to say 8.75 and not be as hard on parts. A/H racing is super hard on parts but I hear you

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Contact Jim Bailey for the NMCA NSS questions you may have , but there are other groups that have different specs on which class they want you in.
Some of my friends and I are also contemplating the same thing. More races, easier on parts. Oh and the Fun factor. I have been to a few NMCA events and they were GREAT!

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You can have a taller than stock hood scoop or one that doesn't belong there at all ;-)

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I would think one of the appeals of these classes is making your car less maintenance intensive so with a intake and transmission change you could run one of the NSS classes and still have a lot of fun. Not sure how engaged Jim Bailey is right now with Ian’s aftermath but he could probably entertain recommendations on rule changes that would make your switchover even easier.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...mErt-5x3p/edit

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Any reason for not running NMCA's Super Stock class?

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Jim,

Give me a call. I can run thru all the avenues you can go down with Wendell's old car.

I sold the twin to Benny in 2020. He's been at INDY the last two years with it. Think I saw picture of both taken during TT.

I now race in NHRA divisional, National, and NMCA, and Stock/SuperStock associations. Raced 14 times year.

Thanks, Bill Kraft seven one six- 55three-zero 9 89

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I might have an issue with the intake but not the Trans because it’s legal

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NSS classes are not bracket racing, It is based on indexes. Can't just go and change your number around, and you need to be on your number. I ran a 10.007 on a 10.00 index and was 11th qualifier at Indy. Quite a few ran dead on with a 0.
Rules for NSS are posted on the NMCA website.

https://www.nmcadigital.com/championship-classes/c606

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I see how both are right!
It really is a bracket race with targeted dial in’s every 1/4 second. For example the fastest index they have is 8.50 so I would have to slow down just for that. I think at 8.75 I would not hurt as many parts because I could run that shifting under 9k
Now everyone in this class picks an index based on how consistent they can run dead on! These guys are outstanding in running the number

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Correct. And after your index is set you cannot change it after 1st rnd qualifying. You will see everyone scrambling to put weight in early in the mornings, then dumping weight as the day goes on. I have raced NMCA since 1997 and it is a great bunch to race with. Most of the NSS cars could win a car show.

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Hey guys! After a week of no power, cell phone, or internet, things are finally getting back to normal. If you'd like to talk, give me a few more days, if you don't hear from me, give me a call. Also, NOW is the time to suggest rule changes for 2023. See the NMCA web site. Jim Bailey 330-858-1842.

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I run with a couple NSS groups and our rules are pretty basic. We really dislike anything that gives the driver any enhancement. We allow transbrakes but frown on the plunger or programmable switches. About the only electronics we allow are two-steps. Ideally, no hood scoops unless the car had it available from the factory. My car had Outside Air Induction and I do still use it. Cars must appear as ‘60-‘70 Stock/SuperStock. We don’t run indexes, but one group only allowed dialing to .5s and .10s and whatever you dialed first round was your dial for the day. The group I run the most with, allows any dial and it can be changed. We’re all good friends just looking to have a good time. We wanna kick each other’s *** on the starting line, but once we cross the stripe, it’s back to laughing and making fun of each other. If somebody breaks, we all pitch in, lend parts, lend tools, and help each other make the next round. It’s a lot of fun and purses are healthy.

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James, several things (ideas) come to mind about converting your AH car to a NSS Index car. These are the same things we would check for in TECH - Rear Tires: spec size. Wheelie Bars: cannot extend beyond the rear bumper. Data Recorder: Not allowed. Digital Dash: Not allowed. Two Steps: Not allowed. Programmable Ignition Sytems: Not allowed. If equipped with Auto Trans: No electronic or Air shifters. Trans break only if using a toggle switch for reverse, no buttons allowed. Finally, you'd have to use a cast intake manifold and an engine diaper.... If I were you, I'd just consider running our Super Stock Eliminator program. Our indexes are 3 tenths softer than NHRA, and they're all run programs. You could back your car down and run very competitive without changing a thing. Same HP / Min weight as NHRA. .... Our NSS program and its racers are purest - to an extreme. Trust me, that class is self-policing, old school, foot breaking. And they intend to keep it that way! If you have any other questions, give me a call or stop by the NMCA Booth at the PRI show.

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I read the rules and it said 2 steps for manual transmission only allowed?

Yeah too much to change otherwise

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James,

I run a 9.00 coronet in the class. Been running for about 15 years.

* 2 steps are allowed on sticks
* sheet metal intakes are allowed at 9.25 and quicker
* I assume you have a Grid iginiton in the car... which is somehow legal.
* Engine is all legal... 2 holleys.. good

Can't have:
* Data logger
* Racepak dash.

Throw some 33x10.5's on that thing and come have some fun.

Casey FJ

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I actually haven’t bought a grid yet! I run a Programable digital 7
I don’t want to buy another intake because we haven’t ran sheet metal intakes in A/H for like 15 years! Mine is billet!
It was a wild thought I had to try to come play with you guys but I am the poorest guy in my class and just can’t justify another Intake

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I say sheetmetal, however let's go with "fabricated". Nowhere does it say you CAN'T run a billet intake, so to me... you are good as long as you run 9.25 or quicker.

Thanks,
Casey FJ

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James , you may be the 2nd poorest behind me!

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Behind you! Lmao!
Hemi car and a 1320 stocker plus plus plus!
Yeah you sound poor! Lol

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James: There is a Nostalgia series at Cecil County. UNSS. The 2023 schedule is not up yet. Any legal NHRA, or IHRA Stock, or Super Stock car is legal. It's dial your own ET. The last race for this season is Saturday Oct. 22nd. Many Division 1 Stock, and Super Stock cars have supported this series. Nothing fancy, but it's fun. This year it was a $60.00 entry. Most races pay $800 to $1000 to win.

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Thanks I will look into this!

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I will post the 2023 schedule in the Nostalgia section. I forgot to mention it's cars from 1955-75. But that doesn't affect you.

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id say just show up...i doubt anybody would run u off..........