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Dan Fahey 11-07-2019 05:41 PM

SBC Pink Rods
 
How good are the GM SBC Pink Rods?
Seems everyone used them through the 90's successfully.

Have a set in the 350/255 Stocker Engine.
Are they good above 7000 rpm?
Getting different feedback.

Is there a preferred Piston Rod Combination?

Rich Biebel 11-07-2019 06:22 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
That was about the best you could do 20-30 years ago.....but I'd never use them today with aftermarket rods legal and available at reasonable prices.

By the time you fully prepped a stock rod for race use you would spend a fair amount of $$ and would be far better off buying aftermarkets...

Manley rods would be preferred....

Eagles also have worked in a number of engines I built or raced myself and never had one fail...

Stock GM rods will fail way easier than aftermarket...

richie 2 11-07-2019 06:40 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
and try to put togeather a set of eight that clean up size/length/weight/centered pin bore wise...quite a difficult job.

Tim H 11-07-2019 07:28 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
As with any used rods, unless you have owned them since new, its unknown how many cycles they may have been previously subjected to. Not worth risking "catastrophic failure" when so many decent alternatives exist. Sell them to a Corvette or Camaro purist and move on IMHO.

Alan Nyhus 11-07-2019 07:37 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Well, you've got them already so that's a plus, provided you don't go upside down getting them in shape.

If your goal is for something modest, that's one thing.

If you're going have the intake/heads/cam combo that gets you north of 7,000 regularly, that's another thing.

The Manley Sportsmaster rods are a great value:
http://www.manleyperformance.com/dl/cat/rods.pdf

Mike Pearson 11-07-2019 09:07 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Properly rebuilt with some good bolts and resized they will hold up just fine. I ran stock rods in my super stock engines for years with no failures. When I had a stick in the car I left the line above 9000 rpm and crossed over 8000. Now it’s not worth spending the money on an old rod Whalen a new set is not much more. The Manley sportsmaster is a good rod for the cost.

carl hinkson 11-07-2019 10:03 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
The older version was not as good as the later ones after 1979 more material around the rod bolts and they changed the beam as well. They were only a 1038 steel same as the steel cranks were made out of.

Adger Smith 11-08-2019 02:17 AM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
GM Steel cranks were 1053 Steel

Dan Fahey 11-08-2019 11:03 AM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Thanks
The Pink Rods are in the engine.
Originally prepped by Budd Rowe.
Just had Rockville Ring and Bearing go through the block.

HP HUNTER 11-08-2019 11:03 AM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie 2 (Post 601250)
and try to put togeather a set of eight that clean up size/length/weight/centered pin bore wise...quite a difficult job.

Yes.....this will be your problem

Mark Yacavone 11-08-2019 11:30 AM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 601302)
Thanks
The Pink Rods are in the engine.
Originally prepped by Budd Rowe.
Just had Rockville Ring and Bearing go through the block.

That's what I thought you were getting at. So they were new ,with 0 runs?
I'd worry more about the component weights.How are they?

Dan Fahey 11-08-2019 05:26 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 601304)
That's what I thought you were getting at. So the were new ,with 0 runs?
I'd worry more about the component weights.How are they?

They were from a street driven SBC.
Bud Rowe did the engine about 15 years ago.
It got Dyno'ed and then stored it.

Are Powder Metal ones any better?

D

Lee Valentine 11-08-2019 07:27 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Scat or eagle are less expensive than blueprinted stock rods,powdered iron suck,broke two 305 stocker engines with them before I smartened up.

Dan Fahey 11-08-2019 07:45 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Valentine (Post 601335)
Scat or eagle are less expensive than blueprinted stock rods,powdered iron suck,broke two 305 stocker engines with them before I smartened up.

Thanks Lee
Got two engines to worry about.
Want reliable engines
So need to consider proper parts

D

james schaechter 11-08-2019 10:35 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 601337)
Thanks Lee
Got two engines to worry about.
Want reliable engines
So need to consider proper parts

D

If you really feel that way, get the best aftermarket rods available and sleep well at night.

Dan Fahey 11-08-2019 11:21 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 601345)
If you really feel that way, get the best aftermarket rods available and sleep well at night.

Not about feeling.
Lot of Racer’s did well with Pink Rods.
Just maybe wiser to sell to restoration market.
Seems Pink Rods did well when prepared like any rod.
Now Stocker engines freely go above 7000.
8000 from some combinations which use to be SS range
Just too much.

james schaechter 11-09-2019 06:42 AM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 601348)
Not about feeling.
Lot of Racer’s did well with Pink Rods.
Just maybe wiser to sell to restoration market.
Seems Pink Rods did well when prepared like any rod.
Now Stocker engines freely go above 7000.
8000 from some combinations which use to be SS range
Just too much.

Just saying. Good rods are really a small price to pay for a real stocker effort that will be raced. Sure there are lots of things I did in the 90’s I wouldn’t do now. I don’t know about you, but the few times I broke engines, I always FELT bad. It was definitely about my feelings. And my wallet. LOL

Dan Fahey 11-09-2019 09:07 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 601354)
Just saying. Good rods are really a small price to pay for a real stocker effort that will be raced. Sure there are lots of things I did in the 90’s I wouldn’t do now. I don’t know about you, but the few times I broke engines, I always FELT bad. It was definitely about my feelings. And my wallet. LOL

Got the wallet part.
Only blew one engine.
The piston made a nice ashtray

Ed Wright 11-10-2019 07:17 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Manley has some nice, light, easy to fit rods. Mine goes past 8K all the time with no failures yet. Been using them for many years.

Dan Fahey 11-10-2019 10:59 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HP HUNTER (Post 601303)
Yes.....this will be your problem

They are already in the engine.
Budd Rowe fitted the Pink Rods with Forged pistons, about 8 years ago.
Engine has been in storage and Rockville Ring and Bearing just went through the block with fresh bearings.

If i kept them what RPM range would be safe?
One racer posted he used them in a SS engine at much higher rpm than 7000 rpm.

Only have so much tine and money..

D

1347 11-11-2019 10:18 AM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 601455)
They are already in the engine.
Budd Rowe fitted the Pink Rods with Forged pistons, about 8 years ago.
Engine has been in storage and Rockville Ring and Bearing just went through the block with fresh bearings.

If i kept them what RPM range would be safe?
One racer posted he used them in a SS engine at much higher rpm than 7000 rpm.

Only have so much tine and money..

D

What rpm will your combo see? Some combos will never see 7000 rpm, some will go over 8000 as you noted.

If you are second guessing yourself and want to upgrade, get the Eagles. I run them in my Boss 302, making 540hp shifting at 8700 and going thru at 8900 in good air with no problems. Just make sure you get them with the arp2000 bolts, and check the big ends and small ends.
For 500.00 you can't go wrong.

Eman 11-11-2019 05:54 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Have they been bushed for floating pins or are they still press fit which is what they were new.

Makinchips 11-12-2019 12:41 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Are these Hbeam rods or I beams that are turned 8000?

Ed Wright 11-12-2019 08:56 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 601491)
What rpm will your combo see? Some combos will never see 7000 rpm, some will go over 8000 as you noted.

If you are second guessing yourself and want to upgrade, get the Eagles. I run them in my Boss 302, making 540hp shifting at 8700 and going thru at 8900 in good air with no problems. Just make sure you get them with the arp2000 bolts, and check the big ends and small ends.
For 500.00 you can't go wrong.

I tried a set of those, cheap and a set on the shelf here in town. I may be too anal, but the big ends were all over the place. Had to re-size them, and length varied. Had to sand some piston tops to set the deck. (No mill)
Mine only goes ~8400 in the lights. Best I have found are Manley. Light, and all sizes dead nuts. This was three years ago. Eagle may be better now.

Dan Fahey 11-12-2019 11:24 PM

Re: SBC Pink Rods
 
Sucks moving from Pure Stock to Stock..
Both engines SBC and LT1 were originally designed for under 7000 rpm.
With stock stuff...

Prepped Pinks and LT1 rods seem to be ok to 7200 rpm.
Stockers are mini SuperStock Engines hitting ridiculous RPM.
Above that a lot more costs and still questionable reliability.
Then adding roll bars, reinforced rear ends, replacing harnesses every two years, European priced fuel for racing.

Where is the fun?


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