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Larry Hill 08-21-2021 10:16 PM

Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
Any ideas ?
Could it be when the combustion occurs the bearings take a hit in the middle causing the outer parts of the shell to move away from the housing just slightly and then return causing a fretting action and transfer of metal, from shell to housing bore.

Partsguy1 08-22-2021 03:37 AM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
Rods out of round or inadequate bearing crush. I'm just spit balling ideas.

Adger Smith 08-22-2021 08:16 AM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
Bearing type/part number and rod type and application?
General answer: Fit in housing bore
Pictures?

Larry Hill 08-22-2021 09:18 AM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
Manley rods, King not as bad as Clevite 77, housing bore round according to AG 300. No pictures all the evidence is gone, removed.

How is bearing crush measured and where can the specifications be found?

Oil is semi synthetic

pmrphil 08-22-2021 09:32 AM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
I don't know if it's correct or not, but I use a height gauge to measure each shell and to verify that the shells are square, which I've found some that are way off. I've had rods on the small end of spec as well as the big side both do it. :confused:

FED 387 08-22-2021 11:20 AM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
using too thin of an oil ?---oil is not "thick" enough and not enough "pressure on the bearing" to keep the proper spacing between bearing and crank

Stan Weiss 08-22-2021 12:33 PM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 646032)
Any ideas ?
Could it be when the combustion occurs the bearings take a hit in the middle causing the outer parts of the shell to move away from the housing just slightly and then return causing a fretting action and transfer of metal, from shell to housing bore.


Larry,
Are you saying the Micro Welding is happening near the ends of the bearing?


Stan

SSDiv6 08-22-2021 12:35 PM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
How much clearance are you running and what oil weight?

Race bearings usually have additional crush built in them. Are you using a torque wrench or a bolt stretch gauge values? Make sure the main bore is round and check the size without and with the bearing installed.

This is a method used to check crush.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...cfIEn5dIZLriTg

pmrphil 08-22-2021 01:46 PM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
I have seen the microwelding almost 3/4 the length of the bearing, and probably 3/4 of the width on the most severe ones.

Larry Hill 08-22-2021 01:57 PM

Re: Micro Welding of bearing shell to rod housing bore
 
2.375 crank pin, 5W30 oil, close to .003 vertical bearing clearance, bore is round within .0002, stretch gage.

I'm not understanding how to check housing bore diameter with the bearing installed.

Thanks


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