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efi v6 12-23-2013 08:55 PM

2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Hi Everybody,
Just seen NHRA has posted Stock and Superstock Classification and blueprint specs for the 2011-2014 V6 Mustangs, This is a great thing at lest I think so. Just wanted to let everybody know !
Happy Holidays to all !
Tony K.

ALMACK 12-23-2013 09:34 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Glad to see it in the classification guide.
Too bad it was rated at 260 hp. Should have been 230 hp, IMO.

That combo needs at least 350 flywheel hp to barely run the K/SA index.
Looks do-able, but won't be easy because there is almost zero aftermarket support.
Long tube headers are available, but that's about it.
Not sure if any aftermarket EFI systems will work on that engine.
For now it would have to be the factory ecu.


That bellhousing bolt pattern might be a challenge for PA transmissions or some other bellhousing maker to mate the C-4 up to it.
I believe the 3.5 Ecoboost V-6 has the same bolt pattern., so the investment from them might be worth it.

That engine looks like an 8,000 rpm screamer with the right valve springs.
Deep rear gears and a deep 1st gear might be the ticket.
Lightweight 4500 plus stall convertor ?

Or.... a Jerico trans with a custom bellhousing ?

I have been researching the 3.7 and cannot find much info on it.

Looks like a fun combo once you get past the EFI system and C-4 bellhousing issues.

Andrew Hill 12-24-2013 12:42 AM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 413648)
Glad to see it in the classification guide.
Too bad it was rated at 260 hp. Should have been 230 hp, IMO.

That combo needs at least 350 flywheel hp to barely run the K/SA index.
Looks do-able, but won't be easy because there is almost zero aftermarket support.
Long tube headers are available, but that's about it.
Not sure if any aftermarket EFI systems will work on that engine.
For now it would have to be the factory ecu.


That bellhousing bolt pattern might be a challenge for PA transmissions or some other bellhousing maker to mate the C-4 up to it.
I believe the 3.5 Ecoboost V-6 has the same bolt pattern., so the investment from them might be worth it.

That engine looks like an 8,000 rpm screamer with the right valve springs.
Deep rear gears and a deep 1st gear might be the ticket.
Lightweight 4500 plus stall convertor ?

Or.... a Jerico trans with a custom bellhousing ?

I have been researching the 3.7 and cannot find much info on it.

Looks like a fun combo once you get past the EFI system and C-4 bellhousing issues.

I think the V6 could be a really cool combination. If it could make 390, it would be a 1.00 under car in K. I think it will probably be easier than the 302 at 380. I would say 4500 stall would be low. I see no reason aftermarket EFI systems wouldn't work.

sq34 12-24-2013 06:49 AM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Waiting for boosted

Dan Fahey 12-24-2013 02:11 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efi v6 (Post 413646)
Hi Everybody,
Just seen NHRA has posted Stock and Superstock Classification and blueprint specs for the 2011-2014 V6 Mustangs, This is a great thing at lest I think so. Just wanted to let everybody know !
Happy Holidays to all !
Tony K.

YES a couple V6 Mustang racers what to run Pure Stock.
Helped them get Classified through Mike Baker !!

AL..
You are gonna have COMPETITION !!!:D

D

efi v6 12-24-2013 05:00 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Dan,
Just E-Mailed Mike Baker on Monday about Classification in Pure Stock for the 2014 Mustang V6 ! did not hear anything yet probably after the Holidays I was down south a couple weeks ago with the Mustang and I got to say this should be a good combo in G/PS trim or close to 3680 lbs with a Tune ,Cold air kit and rear lower control arms and cat delete pipes the best run was a 13.27 @ 105.60 not to bad still have work to do !
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all
Tony K.

Bunkster 12-24-2013 05:38 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Certainly apples and oranges, but somewhat pertinent, I’ve got a 2013 F150 with the 3.7 motor. This replaced a 1984 Dodge D250 with a 360.

In every conceivable category, the F150 is from another planet. (This is a base, XL “work” truck vs the old Dodge which was a “Prospector”… the high end at that time.)

The 3.7 in the truck may be tweaked a little different than the Mustang, but compared to that old 360, the 3.7 is like a rocket. It can easily tow/pull anything the 360 could, and then some.

ALMACK 12-24-2013 08:07 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efi v6 (Post 413779)
Dan,
Just E-Mailed Mike Baker on Monday about Classification in Pure Stock for the 2014 Mustang V6 ! did not hear anything yet probably after the Holidays I was down south a couple weeks ago with the Mustang and I got to say this should be a good combo in G/PS trim or close to 3680 lbs with a Tune ,Cold air kit and rear lower control arms and cat delete pipes the best run was a 13.27 @ 105.60 not to bad still have work to do !
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all
Tony K.

Tony:
I am very interested in your combo.
The NHRA K/SA index is 12.65 @ 3550 lbs raceweight.

What rear gear ratio was in the rear end on that 13.27 run ?
Your MPH looks good !
What were your rpm shift points ?

efi v6 12-24-2013 08:22 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
The 2011 truck 3.7 is the same just a different tune, get a tuner and a cold air kit and you will get more power and better mileage !
Al, there is nothing wrong with the factory PCM it is very tunable and tuning software out there and tuners if you are going to run a C4 trans should not be a problem just shut some stuff off in the PCM. There is more aftermarket parts coming every day ! Headers Off-Road Pipes, Exhaust , Drivetrain, Light Weight Wheels and Tires All kinds of Suspension Parts ,Camshafts, Pistons just to name a few things that are already out there.
Tony K.

efi v6 12-24-2013 08:30 PM

Re: 2011- 2014 V6 mustang allowed in stock
 
Al,
My rear gear is a 3.31( going to change to ? )
I got my shift points set at 6950 rpm
My 60' was 1.99
Tony K.


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