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I like that Mountain Green as well, but not sure how the Gold interior would jive with that... http://www.69pace.com/paint1967mountaingreen.htm

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Both colors will look great Rich,,, with or without a vinyl roof. I'm pulling for the Mountain Green. I think there was a Sierra Fawn Camaro at the Northern Nationals in May,,, a stick car if I recall, correctly. Either way, you can't go wrong,, take care.
Danny Durham

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Fast makes any color look good....................

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I guess I better choose wisely lol...:o

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Spent the day cleaning up the back portion of the shop and traded places with the Goat which is due to leave for another home Sunday. I'll have more room to work back there anyway. Parting shots...

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Back to the grind...

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In search of a set of C6 CP 4.060 pistons for a 350. If you know of a shop that might have some lying on a shelf pm me please.

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Rich, have you found anything significant in taking the motor apart? -Al

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#6 piston wrist pin galled to the point of near zero movement being the most significant. These are press fit.

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Yikes! ^^^^^^

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full floaters in my engine... im sure that was slowin you down a tad...

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Yeah, a set of Manley rods will be attached to those CP pistons when I locate a set.

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May have located a set of CP pistons from a forum member. Another slightly tech question - There are about 8 different Manley rods (large journal) listed in the S/SS blueprint sheet...anyone have the spec's on these rods or know which one I should be considering for this engine? (14101, 14350, 14201 ?) I'm thinking Manley 14101 would be the best bang for the buck here.

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Those 14101 sportsman rods will work fine for you.

I used them in my late model LT-1 Stocker engine.

Same LJ crank pins

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Rich, the Manley #14101 (14101-8 for a set) is the one you'll want. The Manley catalog claries things better than the NHRA accepted list: http://www.manleyperformance.com/master_catalog.shtml

I'm in the same boat as you....but have resisted taking the motor apart until the off season. ;) -Al

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Thanks guys - That's the rod I will go with then. I may have the car back together in time to make a couple of end of year races. The plus side is the car will finally have some much needed fresh paint.

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Back and forth between motor work and paint/body work...this weekend it is paint and body.

Took a razor blade to the doors to avoid having to deal with all the decal glue residue...didnt take too long as the paint was not adhered to the door panels very well to begin with.

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I managed to get the front clip pieces along with the deck lid in shape today and I went ahead and painted the backside of all the parts. I have decided I will re-assemble the car and paint it as a whole...will make it much easier to color match all the panels and I won't have to worry with gouging/scratching finished surfaces.

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Tomorrow I will detach the inner fender liners and freshen those up with paint. I'll then go ahead and assemble those to the fenders so I can make a straight shot re-attaching the assemblies.

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This won't be a show car finish, but I will take the time to block outside surfaces. I went with the Sierra Fawn color in single stage so I can wet color sand and buff when finished. I know the base/clear would have been lighter, but I just have never been able to master laying down clear. On the plus side if it gets any gouges, dings or scratches I can easily repair them myself with this system. Another full day planned for Sunday...:rolleyes:

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Looking forward to the 'new look', Rich...and the new power! -Al

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Lots of rain today and didnt do any spraying. My partner got ambitious and figured out how to remove the window trim and door felts so that part is out of the way. Seats are out and will be re-covered soon. My next project will be on the inside of the car taking apart the dash once more...going to need matching paint in the interior, right? That will be a weekender for sure with all the masking and detail work...hopefully I will get the door jambs/threshholds done at the same time. Oh yeah...removed the fuel cell so we could paint the trunk which has up to this point only been in primer.

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Consensus - Black tail or not? If I remember correctly these were a matte black finish???

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Black tail is my vote.......the sure come apart easy hey? JK

It sure is a sobering reality when "down on power" is the problem ,good luck with the freshen up!

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The car is going to look great with the new color combo, Rich. I also like the idea of the black tail panel,, even though the factory reserved that treatment for big block cars. As far as interior, either way you can't go wrong, whether its gold or black, it'll look just fine. I can't wait to see the finished product,, take care.
Danny Durham

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Yeah, I've about sold myself on the blacked out tail. Guess I will have to get some eggshell black...too much gloss just won't look right. No worry...I'm not changing the Gold interior out, but I will be re-painting the tops of the doors, dash and trim pieces to match the new body color.

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Rich, this post time says 1:27 am? :eek:........OVERACHIEVER! Making the rest of us look lazy.;)

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Nah...I work for a electric utility 3:30pm to 11:30pm and usually get home around midnight. ;)

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While everyone was at Bowling Green this weekend having fun in the 100 degree heat I was busy in the shop with the same weather. Got all the pieces painted and the seats with new covers are back home.

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The hull may look pretty slick in the pictures, but it is far from it atm. I had a slight mishap/setback yesterday with some polyester body filler and I spent most of yesterday evening and the better part of today cleaning that up. I must not have used enough hardner in a batch of filler as it would never completely dry on the car...a major ordeal as it would not sand at all and balled up like chewing gum from hell. I ended up taking a razor blade and scraped it all off the car this morning before I could continue.

Anyway, I shot a high build coat of primer on it before leaving this evening. I'll block the hull and see where it still needs attention. Once straight I'll shoot a couple of coats of paint on it then assemble the car again. Some medium wet sanding once the car is complete I'll shoot it again as a whole.

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This would be a great time to install a new windshield if it's needed.

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Aftermarket preferably [ crinamex, xyg, fyg, ] their 2-3lbs lighter. IMO

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We had considered it...anytime up to the point of installing the trim would work.

I'm having a little difficulty working the roof of the car because I placed it high on jackstands...I'll need to lower it some in a day or two to finish. One of those grill rotating spit thingies sure would be nice. :p

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A new windshield is cheap and nothing better than shedding a few pounds and being able to see better too! Plus they will come to you to install. As resourceful as you are, a rotisserie would be a piece of cake! Or make a platform to gain access to the roof. It's nice to see that you are doing all of your own work!
Now is the time to make the car as light as you can possibly get it, then you can place the weight where it makes the car work better.

Sean

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I can pretty much promise this will be my last paint job, ;)

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Painted the trunk area and the tail yesterday...

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Today was the most horrific experience I've had in some time. Began painting the front fenders on sawhorses and pretty much immediately the paint cup top came off. I was kneeling and the bulk of the paint went in my lap and down one arm. To cap it off I had numerous runs which I will have to deal with later. I'll need to pick up some more paint and hardener Tuesday to have enough to finish up the job. Plans are to shoot the hull mid week and put this junk back together next weekend...I'm pretty worn out from this job and looking forward to the end of it.

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great progress you are making. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.

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You would not wanted to have been there yesterday lol! :o

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I can relate to your pain. I spilled a full cup in my garage when painting my car. It looked like a crime scene! I also said I would never ever paint again. It's a lot of work to have something that looks nice. Keep up the good work, you are making fast progress.

Sean

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Got up early Thursday morning and got busy. Wet sanded the primer, fashioned a curtain under the car and shot the car in under three hours...all without a single run thank goodness!

Never fear about the black tail omission at this juncture...I did not like how it turned out initially so I sanded and re-primered the tail section. Figured out it would be easier for me to do it last with some good striping tape I recently picked up. I will bolt the front clip, hood and deck lid on Saturday afternoon adjusting gaps in preparation for final wet sanding and additional paint coats.

Question for the paint guru's here...how long should I wait after final paint to wet sand and buff this single stage urethane? The car is sitting inside a shop where temps reach 95-100 degrees daily when closed. Any finishing tips would be appreciated.

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Theoretically you should be able to wet sand and polish Sunday or Monday (2-3 days after spraying). That all depends on the paint, if it is still "green" or rubbery then it is not ready yet. We bake all of our refinishes and base/clear we can polish about 3 hours if need be once out of the booth, we usually wait until the next day. The single stage we use actually needs about 2-3 days before we even consider wet sanding and polishing, because even though it has been baked (160 degrees for 25 minutes) it still has the rubbery feel to it (slightly sticky to the touch). The semi gloss or flat finishes need about 5 days to cure before they are handled regardless on if they have been baked or not. For reference sake we use Sikkens products, I don't know what you are using.

by the way, I love the color choice!

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I'm using PPG Omni acrylic urethane Dion. 1500 grit wet sand between coats sound ok?

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probably over kill, for base/clear we will sometimes use 800 grit wet, but actually prefer 500 grit on a precision orbital sander, and red scothbrite for the edges. Our single stage jobs we usually paint over 320 grit with great success. Everyone will have their own opinion ,but if 1500 works for you keep on keeping on!

I have used the ppg Omni in the past it is decent, user friendly

the 500 grit on the orbital would be used dry, fwiw

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Looking good, Rich! Not to many guys that will still tackle their own paint. Can't wait to see the final result. -Al

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Thanks Alan - I get the privilege of assembling the front clip and aligning all those joints today lol...probably going to be a greater task than the paint work hehe.