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RJ Sledge 11-17-2012 12:27 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
I broke down and called NHRA and talked to Pat C., ask him if the seat deal in Stock was the same as Super Stock and he told me yes as long as the seats in question were "Full Size" and not some short backed aluminum shell that some Super Stock guys were trying to run a while back.

The Seat information reads the same for Stock and Super Stock in the new amended rules for 2013.

I can save about 60 lbs by removing my 45 year old bench seat and replace it with up to date lite weight bucket seats and mounts that are definintely built better and stronger than my bench set up.

If you like the way your old seat looks, aren't concerned about how old they are and are not trying to save some weight don't worry about it.

RJ

Jeff Lee 11-17-2012 01:53 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Oh no...RJ has some more traction planned! Gulp...;)

Rory McNeil 11-17-2012 03:39 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
I wonder how many racers would still want the "safety" advantage of a race seat, if they had to add enough weight under the new seat to match the weight of the "dangerous:" factory seat.?

426Fred 11-17-2012 07:34 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R J Sledge (Post 356577)
I broke down and called NHRA and talked to Pat C., ask him if the seat deal in Stock was the same as Super Stock and he told me yes as long as the seats in question were "Full Size" and not some short backed aluminum shell that some Super Stock guys were trying to run a while back.

The Seat information reads the same for Stock and Super Stock in the new amended rules for 2013.

I can save about 60 lbs by removing my 45 year old bench seat and replace it with up to date lite weight bucket seats and mounts that are definintely built better and stronger than my bench set up.

If you like the way your old seat looks, aren't concerned about how old they are and are not trying to save some weight don't worry about it.

RJ

Exactly RJ, if you like what you have then don't change. But for me, if I should ever have the miss fortune of hitting a wall going a buck twenty five, I want the stability of a properly installed purpose built quality racing seat to support me through that type of g force load . As an added bonus, moving weight around in a race car to better balance it for optimum traction has been a drag racers tool going back to the 50's.

Tom keedle 11-17-2012 08:56 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 356586)
I wonder how many racers would still want the "safety" advantage of a race seat, if they had to add enough weight under the new seat to match the weight of the "dangerous:" factory seat.?

well, just speaking for me, with MY "factory" weight,i wouldn't need to add any...

Chad Rhodes 11-17-2012 10:10 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredjohnston (Post 356546)
NHRA should reinstate the 50/50 weight rule for Stock Eliminator to prevent this.

Well no more vettes then.

Chad Rhodes 11-17-2012 10:17 AM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 356586)
I wonder how many racers would still want the "safety" advantage of a race seat, if they had to add enough weight under the new seat to match the weight of the "dangerous:" factory seat.?

I would

69Cobra 11-17-2012 12:41 PM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 356586)
I wonder how many racers would still want the "safety" advantage of a race seat, if they had to add enough weight under the new seat to match the weight of the "dangerous:" factory seat.?

I would!!! What people don't understand is with the bench seat in my car I can't snatch up the seat belts tight because I wouldn't be able to reach the shifter. Therefor I have to leave the belts loose because with the bench seat I have to move the shifter closer to the firewall for it to go into 2nd and 4th because it hits the seat. So now I'm leaning forward with loose belts grabbing gears. This is why I just bought factory buckets for the car so I could keep the shifter back where I need it. But now I can just keep the Kirkey's and life is good for me:D

Mark Yacavone 11-17-2012 12:58 PM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 426Fred (Post 356588)
. As an added bonus, moving weight around in a race car to better balance it for optimum traction has been a drag racers tool going back to the 50's.


I thought this was all about "safety" ?


Quote:

I would!!! What people don't understand is with the bench seat in my car I can't snatch up the seat belts tight because I wouldn't be able to reach the shifter. Therefor I have to leave the belts loose because with the bench seat I have to move the shifter closer to the firewall for it to go into 2nd and 4th because it hits the seat. So now I'm leaning forward with loose belts grabbing gears. This is why I just bought factory buckets for the car so I could keep the shifter back where I need it. But now I can just keep the Kirkey's and life is good for me
Just fabricate a notch into the seat frame, have it upholstered over and put the shifter where you want it...Been done for years

Doug Domm 11-17-2012 01:22 PM

Re: Rules amendments 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Cobra (Post 356611)
I would!!! What people don't understand is with the bench seat in my car I can't snatch up the seat belts tight because I wouldn't be able to reach the shifter. Therefor I have to leave the belts loose because with the bench seat I have to move the shifter closer to the firewall for it to go into 2nd and 4th because it hits the seat. So now I'm leaning forward with loose belts grabbing gears. This is why I just bought factory buckets for the car so I could keep the shifter back where I need it. But now I can just keep the Kirkey's and life is good for me:D

I have been to a couple races where the starting line crew checked that your harness was cinched. If it wasn't you didn't get the opportunity to do it they would back you out and you where done. I saw this at both N and I tracks.


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