CLASS RACER FORUM
Page 8 of 21 « First 67 8 91018 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

CLASS RACER FORUM (https://classracer.com/classforum/index.php)
-   Stock and Super Stock (https://classracer.com/classforum/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   No Blinders (https://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=83985)

Billy Nees 01-20-2023 10:12 AM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 674464)
If it was 1999, I would definitely consider running the factory ECU in a 5.0 mustang or a 3rd and 4th gen firebird, but you pretty much need a time machine in order to get the software and a computer that will run the software. And those early handheld programmers have mostly faded away into the pages of history. The factory stock cars are a tough one too. I don't know about all of the years, but the Cobra Jet mustangs were using essentially a tuned up street mustang ECU. I believe the COPOs and Drag Packs use aftermarket ECUs from the factory, so that sort of makes the OEM ECU rule a moot point in a way for them.
No, it doesn't. IF you decide to take on the burden of using the OEM ECU then you should be able to reap the benefits (if any) of the OEM ECU. The "factory" cars are a different story as is everything about those cars.

Billy Nees 01-20-2023 10:16 AM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 674455)
I searched the Rule Book and I couldn't find a Sandbagging statement, but I clearly remember seeing it in past issues.
Just a note, much of the current Rule Book was written by lawyers.
The only thing that I could find in my rulebook regarding "sandbagging" or "excessive braking" involves a participant excessively braking and hitting a guard wall or crossing the centerline.

Jeff Niceswanger 01-20-2023 10:51 AM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 674454)
When are we going to do something about the "data loggers can't be hooked to the ignition box" rule? Or how about the "no driveshaft sensors" rule?
One year at US Nationals one of the tecks looked under my car while I was on the scale and noticed it had a driveshaft sensor. He ask me where that is hooked to. He noticed there was no Racepac in the car and questions "that's not going to the ECU is it? Busted!
He made me hand it to him on my next time on the scales.Sensor, bracket, wiring and all.
Is there still language pertaining to only ONE tie in from the trans brake signal to the rest of the system? People use that signal to reset all kinds of stuff, and start data loggers. If that's still in there, it needs taken out.

Stan Hawes 01-20-2023 11:05 AM
Re: No Blinders
 
We need guys like Bruce and Wesley in tech to enforse the rules. He pissed of a lot of people, but was one of the most knowageable and honest technical inspectors for the NHRA. After market disc brakes, roller rockers, lightweight seats, and many other parts that are turning stock into what super stock was in the 70's when Bill Parmenter and I ran a 55 150 Chev post with a stock rear end and a factory 3 speed . At that time Bill and I took over tech at Madras Drag Strip. Jim Livingston made me the tech director and paid me $25.00 per race. For the large wage I brought my Mitchell manuals to verify horsepower and handled the radio advertising on KGW radio and enjoyed all of it.
Those days will never return for reasons good and bad.

Stan Hawes, Retired but still causing and promoting contraversy.
Stan
Hawes
Institute of
Technology

mnmaxwedge 01-20-2023 11:30 AM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by L Peterson6261 (Post 674428)
I'd like to see them do way with reaction times on the time slip also. Does anyone remember back in the '70s when you had to really cut a light without all the electronics?
How about we just use a flagman and guys with stopwatches down near the finish line?

Tim Barrett 01-20-2023 11:40 AM
Re: No Blinders
 
SRAC,,we will need your help on this one!!! Hopefully the people that get voted in for these positions can help fix issues like this as they pop up,,or fix them before they do!!
Obviously there's a flaw somewhere someplace and there's an old saying,,,IF IT AIN'T BROKE,,DONT FIX IT!!

Barry Polley 01-20-2023 12:07 PM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markeracer (Post 674435)
Yo Ken,

How about creating a blinder poll.

Ok with rule change, or Not happy with rule change.

I would say no Poll. This is a great site but a poll would not represent all the racers across the nation. The % here does not represent their view. JMO.

dartman 01-20-2023 12:16 PM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Barrett (Post 674473)
SRAC,,we will need your help on this one!!! Hopefully the people that get voted in for these positions can help fix issues like this as they pop up,,or fix them before they do!!
Obviously there's a flaw somewhere someplace and there's an old saying,,,IF IT AIN'T BROKE,,DONT FIX IT!!

There nothing broke. This has been a rule that should have been en-force for many years. The problem is not the rule, it's was lack of enforcement.someone out there just pointed it out to them.

my 2 cents

Greg Gay 01-20-2023 01:41 PM
Re: No Blinders
 
If this rule change is for safety purposes, then it should also apply to Pro and Sportsman bracket classes, since they essentially launch like a Stock or S/S car. I looked quickly, but I couldn't find these restrictions in their rules.

dartman 01-20-2023 01:51 PM
Re: No Blinders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Gay (Post 674478)
If this rule change is for safety purposes, then it should also apply to Pro and Sportsman bracket classes, since they essentially launch like a Stock or S/S car. I looked quickly, but I couldn't find these restrictions in their rules.
it's under general regulation 7:8 and 10:7


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:59 AM.
Page 8 of 21 « First 67 8 91018 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.