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Chipper Chapman 12-13-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
To get around the rule of not being allowed to cut the crank down past .060 under, I would think you would just line bore the block to fit the 440 crank? am i right? is there enough meat there? not a dodge guy, but it seems to me that would be a way around that rule.

Chris Chapman
Not a stock racer......yet

Chris DeGidio 12-13-2007 12:53 AM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob d (Post 50420)
Degidio you know anything about Mopars or Stock?

We've raced nothing but since 1971.But I'm no expert,just know what I know.

John Winslow Jr 12-13-2007 11:55 AM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Bob D, where do you get that I have a record of buying fast cars and slowing them down, the truck slowed down but that is only one vehicle, and you most likley did not see my slips from Pomona. Gary, I have a new set of heads that should be done in about 2-weeks, don't worry about it I hope they work out for you. John

Frank Castros 12-13-2007 08:09 PM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Max'd Out,
That's some cheap shot at John Shaul. Especially from someone who doesn't post with his own name. If he's cheating put your money where your mouth is.

Larry Hill 12-13-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Very well put Frank, John works hard and SMART and spends money in the right places!!! Dave your car is fast and good looking, but the days of you outruning me are over !!!!! Merry Christmas Please say hi to the rest of your family. Larry and Patsy

Max'd Out 12-14-2007 01:30 AM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 50505)
Max'd Out,
That's some cheap shot at John Shaul. Especially from someone who doesn't post with his own name. If he's cheating put your money where your mouth is.

Frankie, he won't see it coming............. but "he" knows.................

Max'd Out 12-14-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Max'd Out (Post 50535)
Frankie, he won't see it coming............. but "he" knows.................

Knock Knock

crewchiefpro 12-14-2007 03:14 AM

Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 49455)
Wayne,
Charlie would be flattered that somebody remembered his 383/400-Hemis, even if you didn't spell his name (Malyuke) quite right... LOL!

But, he didn't build them to get a lighter, or more advantageouly-configured piston. He liked the shorter rods, shorter stroke, and ensuing, lighter reciprocating weight,.. NONE of which is allowable in the so-called 440 low-deck engines now running.

NHRA has "440" specs on all that stuff that are non-negotiable.

The weight of the block, itself, is a different story.

Anyone wanting to build their own 383/400 Hemi can read all about it in the June, 1980 Super Stock and DRAG ILLUSTRATED, starting on page 57... if you can find one.

Bill

I studied that magazine for months back in college, what a great story. That man was persitent. That took an amazing amount of time to engineer.

bill dedman 12-14-2007 06:27 AM

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Crew Chief Pro,
Glad you liked the article. I think the "proof of the pudding" that Charlie had done his homework, occurred when John Hagen's Plymouth Arrow Pro Stocker set the MPH record using one of Charlie's "Low-deck Hemis" in the months before NHRA pulled the plug on smaller engines, and dictated the new, universal 500 cubic inch format.

Additionally, John Hagen was runner-up to Lee Shepherd at the Finals in Pomona that year, losing by a very small margin in the final round, with an engine that had only had about one year's development time.

Charlie built about ten of those modified 383/400 blocks, with most going into street cars. I think Butch Leal got one. Canadian Wally Dyck held both ends of the A Dragster record in the mid eighties with his 400" Hemi, using one of Charlie's massaged blocks.

As an aside, Charlie's first love was Stock Eliminator, and when he lost his bout with Lymphoma, he was hard at work on a '66 Nova 4-speed, L-79 2-door hardtop for C/Stock. That was his passion...

Thanks for remembering him.

Bill

Frank Castros 12-14-2007 08:26 AM

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Max'd,
If this is who I think it is, and in good faith you should reveal yourself to the forum. Compete with John with your car not with your keyboard. Everyone appreciates good racing not cowardice slander.
Frank


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