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Jeff Niceswanger 05-06-2016 06:45 PM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 502788)
I knew about the heads up thing going into stock (because that's what I heard complained about the most) but if the majority (as it seems is the case) would rather not have a heads up race in regular eliminations why not change it? Leaving it like it is just because that's the way it's always been doesn't make it right. Change isn't always a bad thing. I know a guy that only ran his first and last event last year and was unlucky enough to draw a fast heads up first round. I felt really bad for him. He worked his tail off to run stock and then that happened. I'd be surprised if he tries stock again.

I'd be curious to know if the quicker cars in class if the engines were built by the car owners/drivers vs. buying them from a builder. If the latter is true it's just a money class (more money=more performance).

I'd also be curious as to whether stock racers would rather see more stock cars or less at a race. If the latter is true why not change it to run eliminations like they do in the class combo.... Dial everyone at index and whoever gets there first wins. That would make it a true performance class.
You remind me of folks that buy a house next to a racetrack, knowing very well what to expect.... and then want something done about all that damn noise ...

Jeff Teuton 05-06-2016 06:52 PM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Like it. I am now officially training my 18.4 lb monkey to get to minmum in B/SA, or maybe just let a really fat guy drive and stay in C. Here is the solution. My trained monkey will run B and I will run E in another car. Problem solved. Everyone will like my trained monkey.

mopargilley 05-06-2016 07:29 PM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
How many cars can go a buck 20 under at Indy? I sure can't!

Darrel Goheen 05-06-2016 10:39 PM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 502823)
This is Stock eliminator , supposedly a Performance Class.....
But most of the time it's not run as such in regular eliminations. If it was all pairs would be run like the combo class runoffs. That's what I don't understand as I said originally. Why is it only performance based during eliminations when you draw a car in the same class?

I didn't question this to make anyone angry and being told to leave if I don't like it. Of course I knew how it worked before getting involved. If I've upset anyone for my question, I apologize for that. I still bracket race some but I love stock racing and plan to continue to do so and is my priority at this time. I went all last year without a heads up outside of class eliminations. Most of the time I qualified in top half of the field (until I went west) and was about in the middle or slower of the D/SA class.

Casey Miles 05-06-2016 11:13 PM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
This decision was reached as the result of competitor requests and multiple conversations with members of the Stock and Super Stock Sportsman Racer’s Advisory Council (SRAC). During those discussions, a significant number of competitors expressed the desire to show the full performance potential of their cars during NHRA’s most prestigious event without fear of future horsepower and/or index penalties

Let me ask, how many members were really asked or even got a message about this subject before the decision came from NHRA? I think that before they put out a decision like this, it should be asked to the racers who participated at the event they are referring to. I'm a member of NHRA for a long time and participated, never an email or any other form of communications. I'm a racer that will never qualify at that race, but enjoy going.
But now, they should rescind all HP factoring so that all cars have a chance of getting into the field and not just the cars that never got factored properly. Put the advertised HP back on the cars the way they came out of the factory. I still wouldn't get in, but it sure would be fair to the guys who have paid their dues.

Casey Miles
248H

Sean Cour 05-07-2016 12:36 AM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 502849)
This decision was reached as the result of competitor requests and multiple conversations with members of the Stock and Super Stock Sportsman Racer’s Advisory Council (SRAC). During those discussions, a significant number of competitors expressed the desire to show the full performance potential of their cars during NHRA’s most prestigious event without fear of future horsepower and/or index penalties

Let me ask, how many members were really asked or even got a message about this subject before the decision came from NHRA? I think that before they put out a decision like this, it should be asked to the racers who participated at the event they are referring to. I'm a member of NHRA for a long time and participated, never an email or any other form of communications. I'm a racer that will never qualify at that race, but enjoy going.
But now, they should rescind all HP factoring so that all cars have a chance of getting into the field and not just the cars that never got factored properly. Put the advertised HP back on the cars the way they came out of the factory. I still wouldn't get in, but it sure would be fair to the guys who have paid their dues.

Casey Miles
248H
Yes, put factory ratings on the combinations! Bahahahahaha.....this would still be fun!

Tony Corley 05-07-2016 07:11 AM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Just the opposite here. The reason I don't run S or S/S is the bracket racing factor. Would love to see it done away with, and all cars race to the finish line, with handicaps based off of either an index, or to really make it interesting, a national record. No break out racing and stock rules requiring majority of factory parts would be awesome. I'd be racing again within a month!!!. But I know it's just a dream, lol.

Jeff Niceswanger 05-07-2016 07:50 AM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 502849)
This decision was reached as the result of competitor requests and multiple conversations with members of the Stock and Super Stock Sportsman Racer’s Advisory Council (SRAC). During those discussions, a significant number of competitors expressed the desire to show the full performance potential of their cars during NHRA’s most prestigious event without fear of future horsepower and/or index penalties

Let me ask, how many members were really asked or even got a message about this subject before the decision came from NHRA? I think that before they put out a decision like this, it should be asked to the racers who participated at the event they are referring to. I'm a member of NHRA for a long time and participated, never an email or any other form of communications. I'm a racer that will never qualify at that race, but enjoy going.
But now, they should rescind all HP factoring so that all cars have a chance of getting into the field and not just the cars that never got factored properly. Put the advertised HP back on the cars the way they came out of the factory. I still wouldn't get in, but it sure would be fair to the guys who have paid their dues.

Casey Miles
248H
You need to get ahold of your SRAC Rep and express these thoughts ... do you know who your rep is ? . That's what they are for ..

joe176 05-07-2016 09:57 AM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger (Post 502866)
You need to get ahold of your SRAC Rep and express these thoughts ... do you know who your rep is ? . That's what they are for ..
That's what I did .. our D1 rep put it out there a few meetings ago ... I was all for this !!!!

Mickey Whaley 05-07-2016 10:42 AM
Re: Qualifying with no AHFS
 
I think we should do away with tech fuel check and safety check dates take all HP off cars and start over if you can get HP get it


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