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Jim Caughlin 01-19-2024 02:26 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 691834)
I like this way better. I'll be honest: I do not bring the tools, parts, or expertise to get torn down and race the next day. If I ever get protested or torn down, I'm just going home. I understand it's part of the class, but I genuinely want to avoid it altogether.

If you get a request for a tear down and/or get protested and refuse to do it and/or just leave the facility, you will get at least a year off to think about it. Plus when you come back a year later you will have to do the tear down anyway before you are allowed to race again.

Bill Ringer 01-19-2024 03:17 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
Disappointing to see fewer races with Class Eliminations. Just as disappointing to me is seeing all the fuss about going through a tear down. Yes, it’s a BIG pain, always has been. A Class racer needs to have the ability to do treardown. With my generation it wasn’t so much about if you were selected for a tear down but how many times you got picked for it. Successful tech inspection is an achievement, for many it was a badge of honor. I remember one of the Hemi racers even boasting about getting the head off his before anyone else. We are unique, this is Class racing, it's what we signed up for. It gives us a level of credibility that others don't have.

Bill Ringer 01-19-2024 03:36 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 691840)
Maybe not the place and fit for you.

Funny, but 30-40 years ago, ALL class winners had to load up and tow over to the Ford dealer in town, for a minimum head off teardown. Most ,if not all passed and were ready the next morning. Next day, they started all over again with Super Stock
At that time , you had to win class to guarantee a spot in the eliminator

Today, Class run off is optional. Don't want to tear down? Have a seat in the bleachers.

I remember how efficient the tear downs went at Paul Harvey Ford. When I went through they did two groups each day. Cars in the morning shift had to be out before the next group showed up in the afternoon. Great place for tech inspections. They got a lot of cars through tech quickly. Lots of skilled tech inspectors was why it went so well.

JP1738 01-19-2024 04:23 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 691850)
If you get a request for a tear down and/or get protested and refuse to do it and/or just leave the facility, you will get at least a year off to think about it. Plus when you come back a year later you will have to do the tear down anyway before you are allowed to race again.

Y'all are misunderstanding me; I mean I'll let them tear me down, but that's gonna do it for me. I feel like I have the ability to put one back together, but I probably won't be doing it at the race track. Better safe than sorry, I do not have the funds to screw my motor up and replace it.

JP1738 01-19-2024 04:25 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 691844)
Oh well, stock eliminator is not for everybody …:):)

Not to sound like 660, but y'all wonder why the class is fading...

I really expected someone to say "Well I'd help you out" "I'd be happy to give you a hand" but no. You all would prefer there be one less car. lame.

Billy Nees 01-19-2024 04:45 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 691861)
Not to sound like 660, but y'all wonder why the class is fading...

I really expected someone to say "Well I'd help you out" "I'd be happy to give you a hand" but no. You all would prefer there be one less car. lame.

Now that's not what M.J. said. And I know that if you needed some help, another Racer would gladly help you. I know that I would. It's the way we do things.

goofygrape 01-19-2024 04:50 PM

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It feels like they're slacking on the Class Eliminations front. I miss having it at every National in Division 2.

JP1738 01-19-2024 04:55 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 691865)
Now that's not what M.J. said. And I know that if you needed some help, another Racer would gladly help you. I know that I would. It's the way we do things.

Well I certainly appreciate that. I'm willing to work on my car, but frankly I lack the years of expertise the vast majority of guys in this sport have. I'd be terrified if they pointed at me and asked for a intake valve, I hope they never do! That's why I say I'll let them have a look, but going back together is gonna be... a process.

Jack Matyas 01-19-2024 05:50 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
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Originally Posted by NHRA1926 (Post 691829)
Craig Curdie comes to the role from Feld Entertainment. For the past decade, he worked in production with touring groups such as Monster Jam and Ringling Bros. & Barnum and Bailey and was most recently a tour manager for Monster Jam.

And this is why things are changing. He literally came from a circus show. Explains exactly why things are going in the toilet with NHRA. He has ZERO technical knowledge of Stock and Super Stock specifications. I'm sure he really understands specs on cam lift, duration, carburetor, intake manifold, head casting numbers specs or production numbers. The division director should be the person with the most knowledge or understanding of these issues or questions. WHY did NHRA pick these people for division directors that have no knowledge or experience in these important areas? This make absolutely no sense. Pretty sad that these "Directors" refer questions to OTHER division directors because they don't have any answers or knowledge in the field that they were hired to deal with. Again, WHY is this happening?

Normally the Division Director is a Tech Director first and then promoted .

Charles Stewart 01-19-2024 06:07 PM

Re: The Demise Of Class Eliminations
 
Before blaming Mr. Curdie we must look at what NHRA requires for a Division Director position.
Click the link below:
https://www.teamworkonline.com/motor...vision-2066392


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