Re: Factory Showdown at INDY
 

So you didn't use any of those advancements when you built your Corvette?

I am building a 2010 Camaro. I am doing pretty much everything that the rule book allows. It wouldn't make sense to do anything else.

Re: Factory Showdown at INDY
 

His Corvette has a VIN and met emission standards at the time it was introduced. None of the factory ringers could meet emission standards at the time they were introduced with their compression ratios, throttle bodies, camshaft lifts, etc....

No VIN = SS or AFX.

Edited to add: Different strokes for different folks. If a racer is pleased with themselves for qualifying at the top of the sheet and walking away from the other cars in head's up situations then more power (AHFS :D ) to them. I am personally more competitive than that and want to feel like I actually accomplished something.

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Exactly, I wonder how many guys tow there cars to the track with a 1969 1/2 ton chevy pickup that gets 4 mpg doubt any of them lol. Technology is way better now adays that when it was then, its just the way it is. I love the old cars and love the new cars. I think its great the big three are involved, there is alot of people that had no idea what stock eliminator was till these cars came out its made the fan base stronger for a fact. I guess if you don't like the new cars you don't have to watch em. I know i'll be watching! As for racing the new cars heads up not sure what to say ,but I do know one thing a 69 396 375 hp camaro should never run in the 9's STOCK either lol. I think the cars are cool for the class and I understand the older guys not liking them I do get that,but on the same hand its just like anything else new it'll catch up eventually, remember no one thought the ls1 motors were fair either. The new cars probably should have been put in there own class but its just the way it is for now.

Re: Factory Showdown at INDY
 

No they didn't, but if you were to build a 69 camaro today, you would certainly be a lot faster than the guys in 69 were. You would have those 40 years of data and advancements at your disposal.
Chuck

Re: Factory Showdown at INDY
 

Well stated!!!!

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I am wondering, if Chevrolet gave Bruce Noland a new COPO Camaro, would he race it?

Re: Factory Showdown at INDY
 

Were emission controls ever required on a Stocker? When Chevrolet built the 427 Corvettes and Camaros they were aimed at racing. They were also cutting edge for their time. Not your average daily driver!


Which rule book are you reading? Lot's of Stockers have been built from non VIN cars.


I said it a long time ago on here, the AHFS will sort these cars out over time. A new car should be faster than an old car. Why would the factories take a backwards step? Who would buy a slow car from them? I am glad that the factories have come back to Class racing.

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The only thing faster about the new cars are the bogus soft HP ratings. Put them in the correct class and nobody will mind them. It takes ahfs a long time to sort them out, the way guys are sand bagging. How many are loosing class and heads ups to bogus HP factors? Like drag packs that started out in H/SA? Now in what, A/SA? Makes formally slow guys, and new guys suddenly faster. Goes to their heads, then they cry every time they get some HP, and want to quit when they loose too much of the bogus advantage they had originally, like Mr newhemi.
Guys talk about how much work they take, like they are as hard to make run fast as the older cars. As if they had to do as much work as everybody else. I'm not going to mention who, I like the guy, but at Joliet was told by a really fast SS guy how his Mustang still had factory pistons, rods, crank. He said the engine had never been out of the car. I know it was raced last year, and so far this year. I don't know about the year before. I met him at Indy last year. He is very fast. Heck, my engine has been redone twice since I first saw his car. Yeah, they are really tough to make run.

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I thought that was what this whole thread was about. Them in their own class racing each other.
Chuck

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That's where they belong, all the time.